CEO of Riot Admits To Cheating

givemegirlfriend··8 votes·4,071 views
Riot Games CEO Community Trust Guilty Of Boosting

Disgusted. Downloading Overwatch as I type this:

From underpaid casters to over controlling internal politics to its cult-like business culture to the current state of the LCS. This guy (Marc Merrill - CEO) has single handedly built an empire and now is sitting back while it burns to the ground.

The LCS is dying a slow and painful death and the team owners are the ones bleeding out. Riot is using the LCS Orgs to promote and grow a league that it has sitting on the back burner - all to make personal profits from skin sales and in game purchases. Riot has admitted in the past that it uses the LCS as an advertising platform to sell in game product. This isn't fair to the people who are investing huge amounts of money into this league while Riot is the only one making a profit. The system Riot has in place for this league is absolutely ridiculous.

The icing on the cake though: Marc Merrill admits to account sharing in order to elo boost his own account? Hahaha! How insecure are you? You are a millionaire. Who F'N cares what your elo is. This just proves how much of a demented individual this guy actually is. He preaches about "The Summoner's Code" and whatever other bullshit he believes and then just turns around, whips out his cock and pisses all over it! Hahaha

Riot your whole cult culture has been shattered into a million pieces. This is proves everyone has always known. Your leader is a power hungry insecure F'ed up individual who, to be honest, creeps me the f*ck out. Anyways....

All good things come to an end. RIP Riot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oILTlJLDaZI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwakvAuHobA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjFCS0WxJO4

40 Comments

Bladerunner777710 votes

This post and the people replying remind me of an old lady's facebook conspiracy that Obama is a muslim and everyone that replies is equally naive.

archerno19 votes

[{quoted}](name=Raise Morale,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=IeqIoOan,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-09-26T21:59:57.091+0000)

You are the one who is naive and apparently out of touch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oILTlJLDaZI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwakvAuHobA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjFCS0WxJO4

Uhh montecristo... That guy has been salty and trying to shittalk Riot since that shit he did with Renegades. Salty crap like him has no credibility.

Awkward Couch1 votes

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Uhh montecristo... That guy has been salty and trying to shittalk Riot since that shit he did with Renegades. Salty crap like him has no credibility.

To be fair, Monte does have some legitimate gripes with Riot.

Teslyn1 votes

Monte always comes off as a prick. regardless of right or wrong. He is knowledgeable about what he is talking about 9/10 times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS8X2Qp_6aA

Awkward Couch1 votes

{quoted}

Monte always comes off as a prick. regardless of right or wrong. He is knowledgeable about what he is talking about 9/10 times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS8X2Qp_6aA

Oh absolutely, Monte is a prick, but he's really good at the analysis that he brings to the table. And he does have some legitimate gripes with Riot (the Renegades situation, not getting paid enough at MSI are the two most recent examples that I can think of). He said he was ready to bury the hatchet with Riot to cast worlds, but I don't think that would have happened. I'm just really sad that DOA isn't coming. :(

Teslyn2 votes

This safe space you live in. is there room for one more?

TyrekGoldenspear10 votes

Your IGN is awfully ironic.

Awkward Couch9 votes
  • LCS is anything but dying, but you can keep thinking that if it helps you sleep at night.

  • You can play both Overwatch and League, in fact, I do that all the time. They aren't mutually exclusive.

  • Riot is actually fixing a lot of those things that you are complainging about here

  • If the LCS is dying, why did the 76'rs buy Apex and Dig? In the interview they say that E-sports is literally one of the fastest growing markets to date, especially with TV viewership dying.

  • If you actually look at the article that you post, they literally say that it wasn't for ELO boosting that everyone was bitching about, it was the account sharing that happened for 1 game 6 years ago. He fined himself 10,000 dollars. The community was fine and all but forgot about it hours after it happened.

  • Monte is mad about not getting paid more for MSI, He is under contract with OGN which hosts several esports venues, including overwatch which is what Monte will probably go to. Casters under the LCS (eu and na) are salaried employees, since this is a special event, they get bonuses. If Riot had paid Monte more to cast MSI, then that wouldn't be fair to the other casters.

  • League of Legends is still the most popular game by far in the world. It out ranks every other pc game including Overwatch, which was supposed to overtake League in number of players. Not only does League have the most unique player IDS played, they also spend the most amount of time playing this game.

TLDR: you're full of shit and you're salty and looking for a reason to hate Riot, and guess what, you found it.

TeeTohr1 votes

Not logged in cause i'm already logged just to upvote.

ShinkoMinori3 votes

You forgot the part he fined himself for $10,000 to avoid the ban.

givemegirlfriend2 votes

Oh yes! To a charity which he runs and founded. He makes a 10k donation every month. Coincidence?

daemanic3 votes

ROFL ive been saying this for years RIOT IS ALL GREED NO BRAINS and this is just more proof but not for long they will brush this away too just like everything else

archerno12 votes

Its his game, he can do what he wants... Why would he even elo boost? He can just add any ELO to himself.

Awkward Couch1 votes

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Its his game, he can do what he wants... Why would he even elo boost? He can just add any ELO to himself.

That's exactly what the article said.

ModPrandine2 votes

Having read through the article, while I don't agree with or support the fact that he did in fact elo boost or the fact that it took this long for him to admit publicly that he did do it, at the very least he came out now and admitted it (albeit it in the face of overwhelming evidence but still though) and even willingly fined himself $10k as well.

Does that change the fact that he Elo Boosted? No, it doesn't. Does it say that he's at least willing to admit his mistakes when presented with overwhelming evidence? Yes, I'd say so.

givemegirlfriend1 votes

He openly admitted to it on Twitter. He did it because he doesn't give a fuck. Neither do I or most people. Point is, you can't preach about being all high and mighty and then turn around and do what you want. It's hypocritical and wrong. Up here in Canada it is, anyways. I'm not exactly sure what the fuck you people think in the GREAT US of A. Just look at your presidential candidates. Corruption seems to be the norm around your parts.

Watch these in their entirety and you may have a different view of your beloved Marc Merrill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oILTlJLDaZI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwakvAuHobA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjFCS0WxJO4

Niyumi2 votes

As I've said many times, the CEO (Beck) and co-founder (Merril) are greedy assholes, and do not give a damn about anything but money. Their game is irrelevant, so long as they make money.

archerno17 votes

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As I've said many times, the CEO (Beck) and co-founder (Merril) are greedy assholes, and do not give a damn about anything but money. Their game is irrelevant, so long as they make money.

Thats why companies are made. To make money. Thats what every business is about starting from little corner store to huge corporations. Its not greed. They still gave us free to play game, who grew to be best and most popular game in the world. And if game wasnt good it wouldnt make money. Would baker make money if he sold burnt bread? You think Riot would make money if game wasnt this good?

Niyumi1 votes

Not always. Some companies, like Nintendo's gaming department, started because of people wanting to share their ideas with people, and doing what they love. Nintendo was already making money from hanafuda cards, and Miyamoto and all them were doing gaming as kind of a garage band thing. Eventually, Nintendo took what they were doing and turned it into a full-blown company -- but they didn't just care about money. They talked with players, and poured their hearts and souls into their games. Then the CEO died, and the new guy took over and turned it into another cash grab.

If the baker half-assed all his food, used cheap ingredients and had no competition, would he make money? Yeah. If some other baker came out and went 110% on his bread, made it absolutely delicious, would he make money? Yeah. But the baker with no competition has more advertising, lives in a better part of town, and doesn't have to worry about the passionate baker taking his business. So, people will continue enabling the baker who doesn't care, and the baker who loves what he does would eventually go out of business.

Which baker do you think Rito is?

(Oh and, there's a difference between making money and being a greedy asshole -- though I don't expect you to know the difference)

archerno14 votes

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Not always. Some companies, like Nintendo's gaming department, started because of people wanting to share their ideas with people, and doing what they love. Nintendo was already making money from hanafuda cards, and Miyamoto and all them were doing gaming as kind of a garage band thing. Eventually, Nintendo took what they were doing and turned it into a full-blown company -- but they didn't just care about money. They talked with players, and poured their hearts and souls into their games. Then the CEO died, and the new guy took over and turned it into another cash grab.

If the baker half-assed all his food, used cheap ingredients and had no competition, would he make money? Yeah. If some other baker came out and went 110% on his bread, made it absolutely delicious, would he make money? Yeah. But the baker with no competition has more advertising, lives in a better part of town, and doesn't have to worry about the passionate baker taking his business. So, people will continue enabling the baker who doesn't care, and the baker who loves what he does would eventually go out of business.

You are forgetting that this is completely FREE TO PLAY game. All those conspiracy theories are nonsense. Is there problem with quality of skins? Since thats what people pay for. No. Skins are amazing most of the time. Its not surprise that shit nonsense came up now, when people saw that game is actually not dying but instead it almost grew double since couple years ago. Dude let someone else play ranked on his account in s2. Big fkin deal. How is that greed? Please? He is CEO, he could add any rank to himself with simple command. Any skin, any border, any ward thats given as ranked reward. Shitty people are just trying desperately to destroy game. Till few weeks ago there were "omg game is dying everyone is leaving to overwatch". Now that it was shown that game isnt dying but growing even more there are comments like "omg CEO shared account in s2 u should move to overwatch". Bullshit.

Also, you are one who dont know difference between greed and making money. If Riot would suddenly lock game, make it subscription based and/or pay to win game, it would be greed. Hooking people to a free game and start charging for it would be greed. How is Riot suddenly greedy? By releasing skins that players asked for? By giving us way to get skins for free? By giving us all kind of events, modes that we want for free?

givemegirlfriend1 votes

Wow you are honestly delusional.

archerno16 votes

[{quoted}](name=Raise Morale,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=IeqIoOan,comment-id=00070000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-26T22:13:48.450+0000)

Wow you are honestly delusional.

Delusional? You are one who is putting pointless threads. What do you plan to accomplish? People are playing this game for free. What does it matter what owner of game did 4 years ago? Also putting Montecristos videos... That guy is salty as fuck cause he wont be casting worlds.

givemegirlfriend1 votes

Haha You are either a troll or just someone who is very bitter and delusional. We are having a discussion about the future of LOL and of Esport in general. On top of that it is important to hold people in power accountable. If you do not want a part of that you can go stick your head back in the sand.

All of your comments are based on speculation and frankly hold no ground with me =) That being said, like everyone you are free to your opinion.

Xidphel1 votes

You disagree with me and gave me legit reasons as to why I'm full of shit? Instead of giving you more evidence that doesn't include the disproven ones I'm gonna call you a troll and delusional. That should make me more credible.

Keep posting. You're one of the reasons I come here and my local store's popcorn sale goes up.

Niyumi1 votes

Yeah, the game is free, but the quality of the base game is also abysmal.

See, Rito makes profit in the billions (profit means, after all expenses / payrolls / everything). How much of that money do you think goes back into the game? They most certainly don't pay for quality programmers, since the quality and speed of work is terrible. They don't pay for quality animators / artists, since this game's art style is very easy to model in. They don't put any money into recoding the engine to get rid of spaghetti code. So what do they do with it?

Just the fact that the game is F2P shows how greedy they are though.

  • In a traditional P2P game, you pay for access to the game, and the company needs to keep you entertained in order to earn money from you. So they make sure the game itself is as good as it can be, and constantly add new content and player experiences (MMOs, mostly).

  • In a traditional B2P game, they make money by getting you hooked on the series, and buying several games in the series. This means they make the game the best it can be, release expansions (Not DLC, that's different), and release sequels.

  • In an F2P cash grab, they make money regardless of how long you play. They make money by enticing you to buy extra things in the cash shop, be that cosmetic (League) or gameplay-altering (some MMOs and Smash Bros.). The quality of the game is irrelevant so long as you throw money at them, so they don't try to make it the best it can be.

So, looking at that, what does an F2P cash grab do? Well, they largely ignore the base game if they can, and instead pour all their resources into developing new crap shop items. You know NCsoft? They own ArenaNet, who runs Guild Wars 2. NCsoft mandates that each department produces so many items for the cash shop each month, or they could be fined / fired. So, the developers will literally drop whatever they're working on to fill that quota, and this often leads to real content being half-assed and rushed, since they're not allowed to put much time into it.

Specific to League, this means that things like balance, champ updates, the client updates, and all that, are put on a back burner while skins and new champs take up all the developer resources. As far as balance goes, there is no such thing; they work to create FOTM waves and promote popular champions so that they can boost skin / RP sales.

You know the champ updates they do? They take 6-7 months for Rito, right? Well, League, in a programming / art sense, is MICROSCOPIC compared to just about any other game. Any competent team could do a champ update in a few days to a week, but Rito developers aren't allowed to put time into them, so it takes them several months.

As for Hextech, it's not a way to give you things for free, it's a way to try and get you to pay for RP. Once you get a taste of skins, you're more likely to want more, and you'd be more willing to buy RP to get specific skins you want. You're also more likely to put money into the Hextech system itself, since it's kind of addicting for a lot of people. So, no, it's not trying to give you things for free, it's trying to goad you into paying money.

Riot is greedy because they make profits in the billions, but put none of that money back into the game. Instead, they pocket 99% of that, and half-ass the game as much as they can get away with. They don't care about their product, they just care about the money it can make. They don't care about their playerbase, they just care about how much they'll throw at them. They care for nothing but money, and that's why they're greedy.

archerno14 votes

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Yeah, the game is free, but the quality of the base game is also abysmal.

See, Rito makes profit in the billions (profit means, after all expenses / payrolls / everything). How much of that money do you think goes back into the game? They most certainly don't pay for quality programmers, since the quality and speed of work is terrible. They don't pay for quality animators / artists, since this game's art style is very easy to model in. They don't put any money into recoding the engine to get rid of spaghetti code. So what do they do with it?

Just the fact that the game is F2P shows how greedy they are though.

  • In a traditional P2P game, you pay for access to the game, and the company needs to keep you entertained in order to earn money from you. So they make sure the game itself is as good as it can be, and constantly add new content and player experiences (MMOs, mostly).

  • In a traditional B2P game, they make money by getting you hooked on the series, and buying several games in the series. This means they make the game the best it can be, release expansions (Not DLC, that's different), and release sequels.

  • In an F2P cash grab, they make money regardless of how long you play. They make money by enticing you to buy extra things in the cash shop, be that cosmetic (League) or gameplay-altering (some MMOs and Smash Bros.). The quality of the game is irrelevant so long as you throw money at them, so they don't try to make it the best it can be.

So, looking at that, what does an F2P cash grab do? Well, they largely ignore the base game if they can, and instead pour all their resources into developing new crap shop items. You know NCsoft? They own ArenaNet, who runs Guild Wars 2. NCsoft mandates that each department produces so many items for the cash shop each month, or they could be fined / fired. So, the developers will literally drop whatever they're working on to fill that quota, and this often leads to real content being half-assed and rushed, since they're not allowed to put much time into it.

Specific to League, this means that things like balance, champ updates, the client updates, and all that, are put on a back burner while skins and new champs take up all the developer resources. As far as balance goes, there is no such thing; they work to create FOTM waves and promote popular champions so that they can boost skin / RP sales.

You know the champ updates they do? They take 6-7 months for Rito, right? Well, League, in a programming / art sense, is MICROSCOPIC compared to just about any other game. Any competent team could do a champ update in a few days to a week, but Rito developers aren't allowed to put time into them, so it takes them several months.

As for Hextech, it's not a way to give you things for free, it's a way to try and get you to pay for RP. Once you get a taste of skins, you're more likely to want more, and you'd be more willing to buy RP to get specific skins you want. You're also more likely to put money into the Hextech system itself, since it's kind of addicting for a lot of people. So, no, it's not trying to give you things for free, it's trying to goad you into paying money.

Riot is greedy because they make profits in the billions, but put none of that money back into the game. Instead, they pocket 99% of that, and half-ass the game as much as they can get away with. They don't care about their product, they just care about the money it can make. They don't care about their playerbase, they just care about how much they'll throw at them. They care for nothing but money, and that's why they're greedy.

Again, how is all that you are mentioning greed? Are people forced to pay for any of that? Are players getting any advantage if they pay for it? Also do you have access to their expenses? What facts do you have to backup your claims about not putting money back into game? Baseless accusations.

And again, how is "greed" related to CEO sharing his account in s2?

Niyumi1 votes

Alright, so I get that you're too young to understand how business works, so I'm done trying to simplify it.

But, as per their financial reports, the most recent had them making ~$2B, yeah? That was a couple years ago. Now that they sold out to Tencent they don't release reports anymore, but I imagine that number has only gone up.

Now, think about everything they do to run the game. At most, it costs maybe a couple million a year, if that. So, $2B - $2M = $1.98B

How much of that do they put back into the game? Do they ever hire new developers, expand their office to hire more, or do anything? No? Hm.

archerno15 votes

{quoted}

Alright, so I get that you're too young to understand how business works, so I'm done trying to simplify it.

But, as per their financial reports, the most recent had them making ~$2B, yeah? That was a couple years ago. Now that they sold out to Tencent they don't release reports anymore, but I imagine that number has only gone up.

Now, think about everything they do to run the game. At most, it costs maybe a couple million a year, if that. So, $2B - $2M = $1.98B

How much of that do they put back into the game? Do they ever hire new developers, expand their office to hire more, or do anything? No? Hm.

Do they need more?

http://www.riotgames.com/sites/default/files/styles/home-rotator-slides/public/content/home-rotator/images/main/WeAreRioters_Carousel_3.jpg?itok=um4EmiTb

EvilDustMan2 votes

{quoted}

Yeah, the game is free, but the quality of the base game is also abysmal.

See, Rito makes profit in the billions (profit means, after all expenses / payrolls / everything). How much of that money do you think goes back into the game? They most certainly don't pay for quality programmers, since the quality and speed of work is terrible. They don't pay for quality animators / artists, since this game's art style is very easy to model in. They don't put any money into recoding the engine to get rid of spaghetti code. So what do they do with it?

Just the fact that the game is F2P shows how greedy they are though.

  • In a traditional P2P game, you pay for access to the game, and the company needs to keep you entertained in order to earn money from you. So they make sure the game itself is as good as it can be, and constantly add new content and player experiences (MMOs, mostly).

  • In a traditional B2P game, they make money by getting you hooked on the series, and buying several games in the series. This means they make the game the best it can be, release expansions (Not DLC, that's different), and release sequels.

  • In an F2P cash grab, they make money regardless of how long you play. They make money by enticing you to buy extra things in the cash shop, be that cosmetic (League) or gameplay-altering (some MMOs and Smash Bros.). The quality of the game is irrelevant so long as you throw money at them, so they don't try to make it the best it can be.

So, looking at that, what does an F2P cash grab do? Well, they largely ignore the base game if they can, and instead pour all their resources into developing new crap shop items. You know NCsoft? They own ArenaNet, who runs Guild Wars 2. NCsoft mandates that each department produces so many items for the cash shop each month, or they could be fined / fired. So, the developers will literally drop whatever they're working on to fill that quota, and this often leads to real content being half-assed and rushed, since they're not allowed to put much time into it.

Specific to League, this means that things like balance, champ updates, the client updates, and all that, are put on a back burner while skins and new champs take up all the developer resources. As far as balance goes, there is no such thing; they work to create FOTM waves and promote popular champions so that they can boost skin / RP sales.

You know the champ updates they do? They take 6-7 months for Rito, right? Well, League, in a programming / art sense, is MICROSCOPIC compared to just about any other game. Any competent team could do a champ update in a few days to a week, but Rito developers aren't allowed to put time into them, so it takes them several months.

As for Hextech, it's not a way to give you things for free, it's a way to try and get you to pay for RP. Once you get a taste of skins, you're more likely to want more, and you'd be more willing to buy RP to get specific skins you want. You're also more likely to put money into the Hextech system itself, since it's kind of addicting for a lot of people. So, no, it's not trying to give you things for free, it's trying to goad you into paying money.

Riot is greedy because they make profits in the billions, but put none of that money back into the game. Instead, they pocket 99% of that, and half-ass the game as much as they can get away with. They don't care about their product, they just care about the money it can make. They don't care about their playerbase, they just care about how much they'll throw at them. They care for nothing but money, and that's why they're greedy.

Why do you play?

Niyumi1 votes

If there was any game that didn't put me to sleep that still existed, trust me, I wouldn't touch this game with a mile long stick. But, unfortunately, the gimme generation killed off everything I enjoy, and every new game is a pile of fucking garbage.

So I'm stuck here.

Nik Nikerson2 votes

So you are literally admitting to liking nothing.

Yeah, that doesn't make you sound as a bitter old curmudgeon.

According to your own words, Riot is still providing a better product than anyone else. Why are the "less greedy" companies, who according to you, are much more incentivized to put out a superior product, not doing so? Why are they not putting more resources into providing the best experience possible, one that is superior to league?

Niyumi1 votes

Oh no, I like games, just not any modern ones. But, you can only play through old console games so many times before you know their entirety by heart and it becomes much less fun.

And because every company is greedy these days. Any company that starts out good turns bad as soon as they get a taste of money. The best example I can think of is Ori and the Blind Forest, and Moon Studio. They started out incredible, and really cared about what they were doing. Then, they got a bit of money, and decided that was all they wanted, and turned crooked. They stopped doing updates and fixing bugs, and put all their resources into reselling the game and naming it "The Definitive Edition" and then promptly took the money and disappeared.

Riot isn't providing a superior product, they just have control of the market, and everyone plays the game. So, if I want to play with my family or anything, I have to play this game. And a good portion of MOBAs are just the same game with clunkier mechanics. People don't try to innovate, they just copy what's successful.

Nik Nikerson1 votes

Except there are other games out there, including quite a few MOBAs. And they are all internet based, so people have access to ALL of them.

And why wouldn't the first baker lose customers? If a product is superior, and costs the same amount of money, or is at least competitively priced, of course the first baker will lose business.

Niyumi1 votes

Because the first baker is "F2P", and sells his bread for next to nothing. It may not be anywhere near as good, but it doesn't cost much, so people will flock to it. The second baker is "P2P" and, even though his bread is far superior, he spends a lot more time on it, uses more expensive ingredients, and has to charge more to stay afloat. So, people will not buy his bread unless they really specifically want it, even though it tastes so much better, because it costs more.

Mimy1 votes

Either way, I don't care.. can't afford overwatch.. but I'm going to Gigantic when it releases..

TheSequelsRBad1 votes

Yeah, he elo boosted, but he did fine himself.

What do you want him to do? He inflicted a steeper punishment on himself then on any other elo boosted person.

Wh1teWu1f1 votes

Meh, I mean, I knew Marc Merill really wasn't a smart/good guy (watched the videos and how he sees the eSports scene), but I also have heard that at the time he was getting boosted, apparently a lot of people were doing this (Check out a video by Scarra called "Beyond the Rift" I think it's episode 8 or 9 when they talk about it) and imaqtpie and Scarra both made some pretty good points about it. Personally though, I really don't care.

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