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Questionable 14 Day Ban

focus reform··5 votes·1,079 views

I received a 14 day ban for this body of text. CONTEXT: the first comment we were joking around in chat pregame. the fiora on the other team started flaming in all chat for some reason so i fired a few constructive criticism missiles back to hopefully shut her up and get her focusing on improving (further context i beat her in lane). I don't see how this is instant ban worthy, I didn't get any warnings at all or prior chat restricts anything like that.
Game 1 focus reform: cuck focus reform: fiora youre not half bad mechanically focus reform: why do you suck so much ass mentally focus reform: youre garbage at cs focus reform: trading was wack focus reform: you fucked up yourself lol focus reform: you went in for awful trades focus reform: like ill admit mechanically youre pretty decent focus reform: probably better than me tbh focus reform: but you dont have any clue how to play the lane lol focus reform: why is everyone so fucking fast

Even if you want to argue that it's confrontational, I definitely dont think it's ban worthy, it's hardly more than imo AND IT WAS BACK AND FORTH. no abusive comments etc just commentary on the game being played (maybe with some choice vocabulary)

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Jo0o5 votes

You named yourself "focus reform" and then went out of your way to insult your own teammate throughout this entire log. What the fuck do you think "reform" is?

focus reform4 votes

not my teammate, an opponent that was flaming our team in all chat. for the record reform is a long process lol, i don't think that's that toxic. not to mention this was like 5 messages in the span of maybe a minute and nothing over the rest of the game, just as a response to her initiating some flame to begin with

Jo0o2 votes

That doesn't make it much better.

focus reform3 votes

so you're saying i deserve an INSTANT 14 day ban for EXCLUSIVELY GAME RELATED and non personal banter, that I wasn't even the one to initiate? Again to reiterate, the fiora opened fire on me and my team. I only offered criticism with a little choice (BUT NOT HATEFUL) wording

Jo0o2 votes

Not necessarily. If this was your first infraction on this account, I'd expect a chat restriction for it.

However, since you're clearly a smurf (and, with a name like that, likely have at least one permabanned account to your name), the system is probably treating you without the same leniency they'd extend to an actual new player. This isn't your first rodeo, after all.

focus reform1 votes

so im getting the tyler1 treatment? lol i'll "expose" myself a little tho. my original main is in fact permabanned and i agree that was fully warranted, i was toxic and was punished accordingly (that was two seasons ago and im absolutely not the same person i was back then in a lot of different aspects). my current main was instant 14 day banned as a result of a report. i deserved that based on the instant feedback's criteria, i used a word it filter searches for even though i did not use it with any hateful intention/direction (i typed something along the lines of "if you troll in league just kys" general statement like that). Again, admittedly guilty by letter of law. This one? no way. i refuse to accept responsibility for that.

EDIT: i'm trying to say i'm remorseful over prior actions, and so i do not want to be truly toxic or injure someone really. i have a strong personality and a lot of opinions though, and i certainly won't remain quiet if someone is trolling me. i put a lot of work into not crossing the same lines i did with my original main, and getting punished for basically nothing is a stinger, especially when there are some players who openly wish cancer upon other people's families on stream lol

EvilDustMan1 votes

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so im getting the tyler1 treatment? lol i'll "expose" myself a little tho. my original main is in fact permabanned and i agree that was fully warranted, i was toxic and was punished accordingly (that was two seasons ago and im absolutely not the same person i was back then in a lot of different aspects). my current main was instant 14 day banned as a result of a report. i deserved that based on the instant feedback's criteria, i used a word it filter searches for even though i did not use it with any hateful intention/direction (i typed something along the lines of "if you troll in league just kys" general statement like that). Again, admittedly guilty by letter of law. This one? no way. i refuse to accept responsibility for that.

EDIT: i'm trying to say i'm remorseful over prior actions, and so i do not want to be truly toxic or injure someone really. i have a strong personality and a lot of opinions though, and i certainly won't remain quiet if someone is trolling me. i put a lot of work into not crossing the same lines i did with my original main, and getting punished for basically nothing is a stinger, especially when there are some players who openly wish cancer upon other people's families on stream lol

Yes, I have seen some evidence that repeat offenders are more harshly punished. You basically didn't need to tell Fiora how garbage you thought they were, just keep shit like that to yourself.

focus reform1 votes

Thing is it was back and forth and relatively provoked. I didn't cross any lines here even if i was a little mean.

EvilDustMan1 votes

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Thing is it was back and forth and relatively provoked. I didn't cross any lines here even if i was a little mean.

That doesn't make it okay.

Enferjean1 votes

i got instantly banned permanently because the enemy team tought it was fun to report me because i respond to what they was saying, i made a ticket in the support and they gave me a 25 game chat restriction, the report system is a absolutely joke you get instabanned for nothing, i mean, if the enemy team has 5 premades and they want you to report for something minor, youre screwed

Fegone1 votes

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so you're saying i deserve an INSTANT 14 day ban for EXCLUSIVELY GAME RELATED and non personal banter, that I wasn't even the one to initiate? Again to reiterate, the fiora opened fire on me and my team. I only offered criticism with a little choice (BUT NOT HATEFUL) wording

Yes you do. Toxic and offensive, barely a line that's positive. Maybe actually reform... have you tried that?

Liquid Dario3 votes

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I received a 14 day ban for this body of text. CONTEXT: the first comment we were joking around in chat pregame. the fiora on the other team started flaming in all chat for some reason so i fired a few constructive criticism missiles back to hopefully shut her up and get her focusing on improving (further context i beat her in lane). I don't see how this is instant ban worthy, I didn't get any warnings at all or prior chat restricts anything like that.
Game 1 focus reform: cuck focus reform: fiora youre not half bad mechanically focus reform: why do you suck so much ass mentally focus reform: youre garbage at cs focus reform: trading was wack focus reform: you fucked up yourself lol focus reform: you went in for awful trades focus reform: like ill admit mechanically youre pretty decent focus reform: probably better than me tbh focus reform: but you dont have any clue how to play the lane lol focus reform: why is everyone so fucking fast

Even if you want to argue that it's confrontational, I definitely dont think it's ban worthy, it's hardly more than imo AND IT WAS BACK AND FORTH. no abusive comments etc just commentary on the game being played (maybe with some choice vocabulary)

Your 100% guilty off 3 things alone

focus reform: cuck focus reform: fiora youre not half bad mechanically focus reform: why do you suck so much ass mentally

I had to learn too the hard way of getting banned. Basically a Rioter told me saying anything that isn't neutral or positive is reportable and bannable. Literally saying GG is reportable if used in a manner in which your losing the game and you say that and ask for a surrender because your bringing the morale of the team down. Hence why it is considered negative and reportable.

Riot wants to force you to have to LISTEN to the ppl talking shit but your NOT allowed to say anything back. You have to take it like the little $%^&* you are according to Riot. Everyone has to believe they are Faker senpai regardless if they are bronze or not ... you are not allowed to tell them the truth they must live the lie for Riots sake so that Riot can get money from every dope who believes they are the Faker of bronze league.

So do yourself a favor and /mute all as soon as you enter a game and use pings to communicate. Riot does not want actual communication in this game. They should have removed chat years ago but they are too lazy to do it.

Simply mute everyone and don't type in chat at all no matter what the morons are doing. Focus on your game and carrying yourself out of the moron zone which I don't even believe exists. Communicate with pings only. Then and only then will you save your account from perma banning. Because your next punishment is a permaban guaranteed.

focus reform1 votes

got tyler1'd :'(

Cólma2 votes

I personally dont think this warrants an instant 14 day ban. But I find it kind of hard to believe that this is the only thing that contributed to the ban. Pretty sure there's something you're not mentioning here. But, then again, I wouldn't be too surprised, based on the direction this game is going.

It's all good and well to clean up the community of toxic behavior, but it's going a little far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXQkXXBqj_U

EvilDustMan1 votes

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I personally dont think this warrants an instant 14 day ban. But I find it kind of hard to believe that this is the only thing that contributed to the ban. Pretty sure there's something you're not mentioning here. But, then again, I wouldn't be too surprised, based on the direction this game is going.

It's all good and well to clean up the community of toxic behavior, but it's going a little far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXQkXXBqj_U

I always find this hilarious. Reality, or an ANONymous who calls himself Reality, is a tremendous asshole, and justifies himself being an asshole because he is 'Reality'.

As with most South Park morals, it's pretty centrist, but internets use one side without thinking about the other.

Cólma1 votes

You're looking way too far into this dude. Chill out. It's a joke. You're taking yourself waaaaaaaay too seriously right now.

EvilDustMan1 votes

No. If you've never had a 25 game chat restriction, you shouldn't have received a 14 day ban. Submit a support ticket.

Mind you, you deserve a punishment. And if you were int feeding or cutting out part of the chat logs, they'll know.

focus reform2 votes

I heard they don't really read those support tickets about the bans anyways :/ We won the game in a stomp lol so no inting, no cutting of the involved here either. TBH i was just looking for support and maybe for a rioter to come thru and FOCUS REFORM the ban system.

EvilDustMan2 votes

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I heard they don't really read those support tickets about the bans anyways :/ We won the game in a stomp lol so no inting, no cutting of the involved here either. TBH i was just looking for support and maybe for a rioter to come thru and FOCUS REFORM the ban system.

They do, but they have macro responses to save time. Be polite and concise. Ask why your punishment was escalated.

focus reform1 votes

Thanks, I'll give it a shot i suppose. If it were up to me this wouldn't even be punished i mean its just some aggro(ish) banter. I get it's not up to me though, but a ban is quite harsh.

Enferjean1 votes

like i said it before, you can get INSTAbanned permanently even if you dont had a 25 game chat restriction the report system is broken and premades teams can exploit it to get you banned for saying ONE word

ModPrandine

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like i said it before, you can get INSTAbanned permanently even if you dont had a 25 game chat restriction the report system is broken and premades teams can exploit it to get you banned for saying ONE word

Unless the word falls under hate speech, racist comments, self-harm threats/wishes or other zero-tolerance policy cases or is a gameplay-related offense then it's unlikely that you got banned instantly without having a 25-game chat restriction, and a pre-made reporting you wouldn't change that since it only takes one report to flag a game for review. If you would like to discuss your case then please post your entire unedited chat logs in its own thread.

EvilDustMan1 votes

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like i said it before, you can get INSTAbanned permanently even if you dont had a 25 game chat restriction the report system is broken and premades teams can exploit it to get you banned for saying ONE word

That's not how it works, no.

Enferjean1 votes

what did you say mate?

EvilDustMan1 votes

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what did you say mate?

You mean how that clearly says you didn't get instapermabanned. You got banned in error and it was moved to a 14 day suspension.

Yes, that IS something that can happen, you can get escalated to a 14 day ban.

Errors do happen. And no, premade teams can't exploit it, 9 reports = 1 report.

Enferjean1 votes

{quoted}

You mean how that clearly says you didn't get instapermabanned. You got banned in error and it was moved to a 14 day suspension.

Yes, that IS something that can happen, you can get escalated to a 14 day ban.

Errors do happen. And no, premade teams can't exploit it, 9 reports = 1 report.

dude, i finished the match and i didnt even past a second, and the notification pop up and say youre permanently banned, i dont know how that works, i didnt even get a 25 chat restriction and that account was clean, i even had honor 3, i had to complain about that and they say it was a error, but how that can happen? i think something triggered the ban system in that way (proof that the system its not fair too) and got punished in that way

EvilDustMan1 votes

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dude, i finished the match and i didnt even past a second, and the notification pop up and say youre permanently banned, i dont know how that works, i didnt even get a 25 chat restriction and that account was clean, i even had honor 3, i had to complain about that and they say it was a error, but how that can happen? i think something triggered the ban system in that way (proof that the system its not fair too) and got punished in that way

You either intentionally fed or utilized hate speech.

Enferjean1 votes

{quoted}

You either intentionally fed or utilized hate speech.

i didnt feed i was flaming a Support ashe on our team, that was a smurf worse of all, and was running mid feeding, i got mad because in the last minute she sell everything when we finally turn the match at our favor and started building ad, all the match the ashe got a decent build like a normal support, the thing that triggered me was that the smurf ashe was intentionally trolling and then she says that "she didnt know how to play"

130x1 votes

You do not deserve to be banned for this. Riot is systematically banning everyone they can for profit. To get you to start new accounts. Riot never started this to help the community. They are not and never will be your friend, it is all, and always will be, a money scheme. Last season, though I do not like bans for chat(only ranked gameplay imo), the chat bsns at least had a leg to stand on. Not this season though, it is now obvious what they are up to.

Sorin Alucard1 votes

There's no reason to put stock in the ban system atm.

Its ineffective. It gives out enough bans for Riot to show they're doing something, but the standards are allllll over the fkn place. Some people are banned for minor things and some people are hardcore who get away with worse pretty consistently.

I file reports almost every game. 1.) The frequency is ridiculous and 2.) the IFS infrequency for this behavior is even more ridiculous. This has remained a true statement of every account I've ever been on for all the years I've played League, with the exception of last pre-season. For whatever reason there was a good month or so where I wasn't matched with many flamers or inters.

A soon as new season started, the behavior went down the crapper, and its worse than previous years. Yes this is all my anecdote, but multiple accounts? Almost every game? I must have the worst luck in the world then right? It couldn't possibly be that bad overall right? idk anymore

Enferjean1 votes

i will say this because is the true and i dont care anymore of riot and their false policy, i got one account banned for 14 days because a enemy team full of premades smurf reported me, because i was saying that they suck so they come here and play with low lvl players, in another account i generally got angry over my team and say "some things" but even in my second account i didnt get any chat restrictions yet, what im tying to say is that the report system is not working, is garbage, and the honor too, how can you be honor 5 and because someone think that is funny to give 5 reports to a player you lose ALL of the honor and had to play for WEEKS just to get honor 1 again.

Riot doesnt care about this and they wont fix it, why? because if you dont had honor you wont had free chests and keys, what that means? you wont get skin and champs shards anymore, so the only way you can get skins or shards is buying RP, this was all planed for riot to make extra profit.

and of top of that people who plays league WONT STOP playing league i mean, what riot think? if someone get a 14 days ban they will just stop playing? hell nah they will just create another account and start playin again Tyler1 is just a example, there are plenty of people that wont stop playing league i include myself, the best they can do is restrict the game chat for more than 25 games, 50 or 100 games, that way you only can say the necessary and will not waste the 5 message limit to flame or being toxic again, i got the 25 game chat restriction and since that i dont trashtalk anymore, the rigth punish is to restrict the chat, a 14 days ban is just a opportunity to create another account and level again and when you get unbanned you had 2 accounts again in the same level.

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