Suspension/Banning

Radious··2 votes·3,661 views

Hi Riot Games,

I live in America which is a free Country, so fix your games suspension and banning rules or take your game out of America, sick of getting unnecessary bans and they are not even reviewed by Riot, but by other players which is absolutely absurd. Fix this or you will lose all of your player base and have many future problems.

Thank You

54 Comments

Chermorg11 votes
  1. If you think your suspension was unnecessary, please feel free to post your chat logs and prove it.

  2. Private companies have every right to control their customer base - including removing them from the "premises" if they so choose.

  3. Bans are not reviewed by players, bans are issued by Riot through the automated Instant Feedback System. If you want a human review, you're free to contact support.

  4. People have been saying League would lose its player base for years now. It hasn't happened.

Radious1 votes
  1. -No need to prove anything to riot games, just show it? just stop playing a game that is not fair in its disciplinary action.

    • Unfortunately its not publicly traded, would have turned out to be a way better company.. Lost so much potential that it could of had.
  2. -Wow they did make a change? Even worse a bot cannot judge emotion, nor make a decision to punish a human, hence why we dont have supercomputers in court. Ever heard of the turing test?. Such uneducated Advisors in this game..

    • It hasn't happened because they keep making new accounts because the game is actually a fun game, but it will eventually wear out buddy don't worry.
Chermorg8 votes
  1. I think that's the goal - you either reform and behave or you leave.

  2. Really no response here? A company being publicly traded doesn't make it good or not. There are many video game companies that are publicly traded - all of which still have smaller player bases than League does.

  3. Emotion doesn't matter. Action does. You're free to ask for a human to review it and revert the punishment if it was unwarranted. The IFS is actually more accurate and consistent than Riot.

  4. Actually, statistics show that most permanently banned players never return on a new account. The player base is, for the most part, organic - i.e. one account = one player. for the most part.

Radious1 votes
  1. Right, and I have already stated if you read correctly that players will be leaving eventually, also Advisor's do not get access to riot's player intake statistics of player volume sorry, but good try buddy.
  2. If this company was publicly traded, the volume of people that are against the banning punishment would outweigh those who want to keep it. Don't think you understand what publicly traded means, do some research.
  3. Emotion doesn't matter? So your saying there is no emotion in writing? Go tell that to book writers haha thats the stupidest thing i have ever heard. Please edit ur response.
  4. What statistics? Ones you dont have access to? Please provide link. This company is private not public again that information is not released unless riot releases it. sorry buddy. stop quoting statistics you dont have access to. thx.
Chermorg4 votes
  1. People have supposedly been "eventually" leaving for over 5 years now. Forgive me if I don't see any reason that they should suddenly start leaving now would change.

  2. In fact, the punishment system is based on Tribunal, in which most cases ended with over 80-90% player participation either for punish or pardon. There were very few "edge" cases. Further, less than 20% of players ever get punished. Lastly, publicly traded does not mean a company must follow what the "majority" wants. It only means that the stock owners have some input as to directors/company boards.

  3. Your emotions do not excuse toxic behavior.

  4. They have released it. I would dig up the links but you obviously aren't going to believe them even if I do so, so I won't waste my time.

Radious1 votes
  1. Man you love to pull these statistics you seem to have access to out of thin air. Forgive me but you have access to nothing, therefore you should stop saying people are not leaving because you cannot see if they are are not.

  2. Yes it does, if there is a vote of 10-1 the 10 will prosper. <removed by moderation>

  3. I didnt say that they do, please re read my post. Everyone has emotions but doesn't mean that there are not consequences either, I am stating that Riot's consequences are way too severe. The Bible says to forgive your neighbor 77 times not 4 and your permanently dead or banned. What kind of reasoning is that? We would all be dead with all of the sins and mistakes we make.

  4. Ok dont waste ur time, but keep responding with un-sourced/ un-backed up information.

7deadLeeSlnz3 votes

Fun fact: Hillary had the most votes but lost to the American system.

Radious1 votes

Only Electoral Votes win a president election. My lord pls learn how voting works, thx. it was 306-232 not even close buddy. thx for your unnecessary incorrect statistics, have a great day reported also for troll, hope riot doesnt perma ban!

7deadLeeSlnz1 votes

Triggered very quickly, wow. Hillary had more votes in total making your 2 argument invalid. I know how voting in the US works I was just stating a fact.

Radious1 votes

triggered? what are you 17? lmao, go troll somewhere else Hillary had more regular votes idiot were talking electoral votes, if only these kids knew anything about politics and how voting works. so uneducated very quickly, wow. Go take a world history class child. surprised you know how to post on a board

7deadLeeSlnz1 votes

I know you are just trolling but do you have anything other to say than insults?

Radious1 votes

Insults or facts. re-read please, thx troll, reported.

Automated Riven2 votes

That's because America's voting system was designed to combat pure democracy (which is basically mob rule) and wanted to give everyone a voice, even if they lived in a smaller state or smaller community.

ModPeriscope2 votes

I have removed part of your comment, as political discourse is not allowed on the boards.

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DODGEORLOSE1 votes

{quoted}

  1. Right, and I have already stated if you read correctly that players will be leaving eventually, also Advisor's do not get access to riot's player intake statistics of player volume sorry, but good try buddy.
  2. If this company was publicly traded, the volume of people that are against the banning punishment would outweigh those who want to keep it. Don't think you understand what publicly traded means, do some research.
  3. Emotion doesn't matter? So your saying there is no emotion in writing? Go tell that to book writers haha thats the stupidest thing i have ever heard. Please edit ur response.
  4. What statistics? Ones you dont have access to? Please provide link. This company is private not public again that information is not released unless riot releases it. sorry buddy. stop quoting statistics you dont have access to. thx.

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Radious1 votes

Go troll somewhere else, reported for spam on my post.

DODGEORLOSE1 votes

{quoted}

  1. -No need to prove anything to riot games, just show it? just stop playing a game that is not fair in its disciplinary action.

    • Unfortunately its not publicly traded, would have turned out to be a way better company.. Lost so much potential that it could of had.
  2. -Wow they did make a change? Even worse a bot cannot judge emotion, nor make a decision to punish a human, hence why we dont have supercomputers in court. Ever heard of the turing test?. Such uneducated Advisors in this game..

    • It hasn't happened because they keep making new accounts because the game is actually a fun game, but it will eventually wear out buddy don't worry.

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Radious1 votes

Go troll somewhere else, reported for spam and unnecessary typing correction on my post.

DODGEORLOSE2 votes

{quoted}

Go troll somewhere else, reported for spam and unnecessary typing correction on my post.

All I did was correct your spelling. It's not a big deal.

Radious1 votes

Unnecessary and belittling. Reported again, take your troll responses elsewhere. thx.

DODGEORLOSE1 votes

{quoted}

Unnecessary and belittling. Reported again, take your troll responses elsewhere. thx.

If that is belittling to you then it's just your petty ego speaking

Radious1 votes

If taking out perma ban is outrageous then that's riots ego speaking kid. Reported again for unnecessary response, already informed you to take your troll responses elsewhere, thx

DemonCrow1 votes

Report being very toxic in the forum community. People trying to help you in the community but instead you shite and spit on their face. Suspending and banning you in-game seem like the best decision RIOT ever made.

DODGEORLOSE1 votes

{quoted}

If taking out perma ban is outrageous then that's riots ego speaking kid. Reported again for unnecessary response, already informed you to take your troll responses elsewhere, thx

Why bother wasting your time responding and reporting then?

ModPeriscope1 votes

In the future, if you find players are harassing you, then it's best to report and not reply to them.

Umbral Regent5 votes

Ever heard of the turing test?

What does the Turing Test have to do with this? It's just a test made to judge the capacity of a computer intelligence to imitate and be indiscernible from human intelligence. The Turing Test has nothing to do with an automated system designed to review and punish players for negative or abusive chat.

Remember, we're talking about a punishment system here, not a synthetic life.

Besides, the Turing Test has been criticised as being pretty shitty as a way to judge artificial intelligence solely for the fact that the only purpose of it is to see whether or not a computer intelligence can look arguably like a human.

So, since we're talking about a system that has no need or design to deal with or appear human to external individuals...Bringing up the Turing Test is pretty pointless.

Radious1 votes

re read the post for the relevancy we were talking about if you need to in order to understand it. Irrelevant comment. Reported take ur troll spam off my post, thanks.

Imperial Pandaa2 votes

Why would it have mattered if it was publicly traded company or not?

I mean, Valve isn't publicly traded (unless that changed recently) and it is fine.

Don't worry though, Tencent is a public trading company and they bought Riot.

Radious1 votes

In early 2011, Tencent Holdings bought out a majority stake in Riot Games.- Old news buddy, irrelevant post, bye, reported troll info.

Imperial Pandaa2 votes

I never said it was new news, did I? You complained that Riot isn't publicly traded, and I am letting you know that Tencent is.

Irrelevant OP who is obviously a troll and unwilling to answer questions/discuss. Reported and bye.

DemonCrow1 votes

I think it's a waste of time trying to explain to @Radious. He will not listen at all.

MagicFlyingLlama4 votes

Lmao.

I dont think you understand what 'free country' means.

You are legally bound by the user agreement, and riot can legally kick you out on your ass any time they want. Go to some third-world country with no functional government if you want to be 'free', then all you have to worry about is someone even more arrogant than you.

Radious1 votes

Starting your argument with "I dont think you understand" is demeaning and i think Riot should ban you.

I am legally bound to a user agreement that is not ethical and has no morals that needs to be changed, this continues to be a problem with this game. Even in third-world countries have rules buddy not sure if you have ever been to one.

MagicFlyingLlama2 votes

I see you understand what rules are, but i dont see why you think you are above them.

What part of the user agreement is unethical or against US law? This should be hilarious..

Also pretty sure you are just a troll.

Radious1 votes

Im very glad you see that.

I dont think i am above them, no where did i say i am above them, re read the post please before you comment on my post troll; thx.

People dont write in this forum because they think they are above the rules genious

They come here for change.

what part? -The part of using a bot system to decide whether or not a player gets banned. Also banning players for long periods of time wrecks profit margins of purchasing rp and destroys community and players attitude. People dont change so stop trying to change them with this ban system.

Im pretty sure you should get off my forum post, thx.

MagicFlyingLlama2 votes

First, according to riot (and common sense, bans are too serious to trust to a bot), anything above a chat restriction has to be verified by a human. I have never seen a ban log that was not deserved, although a few are definitely on the low end. Bans come after multiple warnings as well, should have payed attention to those, huh?

Second, there is nothing illegal about it, riot can do whatever they want in regards to your account - you dont own any of it and have to follow their rules.

The fact you refuse to post logs suggests you got banned justly and are simply looking to lay blame instead of accept it is your fault. Must be some bad shit.

Radious1 votes

"The fact you refuse to post logs"

Show me where i said that, go ahead quote it, take a screen shot. I would love to see where i said that anywhere in this post. Please learn to read, re read it a couple times if you need, but dont waste peoples time with irrelevant responses that are troll. Reported.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

You are not even a good troll. Way too heavy-handed. Nobody is actually that stupid while still being semiliterate.

BLACK REALM GOD4 votes

that's not what free country means.

Nagahasmyname2 votes

post it again, you don't have enough posts with the same thing.

Radious1 votes

There will never be enough posts with this stupidity sorry.

DemonCrow2 votes

For the love of god...please stop replying anymore unnecessary replies. Stop lowering yourself even further @Radious

Radious1 votes

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DemonCrow1 votes

I'm here trying to save what ever is left on your reputation in the forum community. If this is what you wanna go even further so be it. When a nice stranger trying to give you a life vest on your sinking ship, you rather threw it away and sink with the ship instead. Normally i would say good luck but in your case, you're a lost cost. Have fun keep sinking.

DemonCrow1 votes

Please guys and girls, stop saving this poor man @Radious. He is a lost cost. Whatever people did trying to save this person, he rather shit back and spit back to them. So....do not I repeat do not bother to save this person sorry lil butt in the community. It's a waste of time.

ModPeriscope1 votes

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