It's 2018 and my teammates are softer than bread.

It is Nate·Apr 20, 2018·3 votes·2,335 views

You honestly can't even recommend anti-depressants to a teammate without getting banned. You players are soft, grow up.

43 Comments

ChermorgApr 20, 201815 votes

So.. maybe stop trying to insult or belittle other players?

I don’t play League to see you flame me. You have no right to do that, and Riot cares more about the vast majority of the player base playing for fun than those like you who thrive off ruining the fun for others.

It is NateApr 20, 20182 votes

Lmao I have no right? Do people have the right to int?

ChermorgApr 20, 201816 votes

Their behavior doesn’t excuse yours. Ever. You are your own person.

It is NateApr 20, 20181 votes

So, inting people are their own person? Alright, so i'll be my own person and tell people to take anti-depressants and calm down in life. I mean what ruins the game more, a suggestion or someone inting, you tell me man. Be that "advisor" you are XD

ChermorgApr 20, 201812 votes

And both you and the other person are ruining the game experience for other players, and both of you are liable for your individual punishments.

Ruining the game by turning it into a loss and ruining a game by making it not fun for other players are both bad.

It is NateApr 20, 20181 votes

Then why isn't the inter banned?

Oh, it's because it's more about what's said. Not the actions. It's not the inter, that triggers that "bad chat word" and the chatter is the banned one because inters can get away with it by just giving a few kills and a few flashes. Afk if they want, stand by the tower and not farm, let the enemy laner get free farm, i mean i can go on. and all i said was "guzzle anti-depressants" 1 damn chat and it's over.

AeroWaffleApr 20, 20188 votes

Because it's easier for the system to spot someone behaving poorly in chat compared to someone intentionally feeding.

If you behave poorly in chat it is 100% under your control. If you are feeding the system needs to determine if it was intentional or not while keeping in mind that some players have some really bad games unintentionally.

It is NateApr 21, 20181 votes

Pathetic system.

Quiet DudeApr 20, 20184 votes

You have a right to be a salty boi. You do not have the right to be toxic.

It is NateApr 20, 20181 votes

I can be salty but not toxic, please explain.

Quiet DudeApr 20, 20183 votes

I'm saying you can be salty, but you need to keep that shit to yourself. Get as angry as you want, but you still need to be a positive player and not insult/disparage your team mates.

It is NateApr 20, 20181 votes

It's best to know I didn't start any insults as my teammate was upset that 1 death from me was going to make this game over. She even managed to ruin my promos by flashing into the enemy team. But hey, I'm still the banned one.

KarunamonApr 20, 20183 votes

For your chat, yeah. What they get punished for is between them and riot - yet you're the one here making excuses...

It is NateApr 20, 20181 votes

What excuses? I've been honesty this whole time and here you are now assuming.You sound worse than the "advisor" in this post.

KarunamonApr 20, 20185 votes

The "but the other player did this and that and the other thing" are absolutely excuses.

It is NateApr 20, 20181 votes

Oh, i guess actual gameplay is irrelevant to the situation. You got me bro, you got me!

KarunamonApr 20, 20187 votes

Yes - that's what I've been trying to get across. The rule is "no flaming", not "no flaming unless someone on your team is bad or inting, then flame away".

It is NateApr 21, 20181 votes

That's the point, someone inted, and eventually it lead me to suggest "you need anti-depressants"

Rayjay RedfangApr 20, 20181 votes

People aren't inting, just dying. Everytime someone complains about inting, it is in fact someone dying q couple times because of a rough match up or skill level.

KarunamonApr 20, 20186 votes

Someone else trolling the game by feeding, playing poorly, etc, does not grant you an exemption from the rules regarding flaming.

It is NateApr 20, 20181 votes

Oh sorry, I was trying to even out the logic lul.

XidphelApr 20, 20184 votes

What logic?

ModPrandineApr 20, 20185 votes

I see people use the "soft/sensitive" argument allot, and the majority of users are banned troll ragers, and I find that the argument applies to them more than anything else. Why? Because more often than not they're the ones who can't stand not being able to harass their teammates and ruin other peoples game experiences without getting in trouble. Rather than expecting everyone else to grow up just so that you can lash out at them why not grow up yourself so you don't feel the need to lash out at them when things don't go your way?

It is NateApr 21, 20181 votes

I didn't know asking a Cait if she knew how to use her e would cause her to freak. All I said was "take some anti-depressants" I am grown up, it's maybe you softies that still can't take a suggestion, or in my case, give them a suggestion on how to improve in life.

ModPrandineApr 21, 20181 votes

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I didn't know asking a Cait if she knew how to use her e would cause her to freak. All I said was "take some anti-depressants" I am grown up, it's maybe you softies that still can't take a suggestion, or in my case, give them a suggestion on how to improve in life.

See it's this attitude here that people have a problem with, resorting to insults/name-calling just because you disagree. I personally fail to see how telling someone to "take some anti-depressants" qualifies as helpful advice, but if you would like to discuss your ban then please post your entire unedited chat logs here in this thread.

It is NateApr 21, 20181 votes

Give me a rioter. Not a cheap "advisor"

ModPrandineApr 21, 20181 votes

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Give me a rioter. Not a cheap "advisor"

Rioters rarely respond to threads here, so if you want a Rioter response then file a support ticket in a mature and respectful manner. Just know that there's a good chance that the Rioter who responds to you will just repeat what's already been said here in this thread, so if you're just looking for Yesman answers only then you're out of luck.

It is NateApr 21, 20181 votes

That's fine, just don't wanna deal with you or anymore annoying "advisors" lul

BijeesnyApr 20, 20184 votes

Although flaming teammates isn't okay (even if it SHOULD be justified in certain situations, or at least understandable) I agree with you. Like, I see from time to time people complain about getting flamed and I'm sitting here like 'bruh, am I retarded for not reacting to any kind of flame?' Even when I had hardcore depression someone saying 'kys' to me didn't have any affect on me, I was laughin at it actually. I remember I was responding for some time on that with something like 'already tried, didn't work ://'

It is NateApr 20, 20181 votes

Lmao exactly man, ( hope you're doing better tho) I just can say one thing and someone will lose it.

BijeesnyApr 20, 20182 votes

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Lmao exactly man, ( hope you're doing better tho) I just can say one thing and someone will lose it.

Yee im doing better :D

XidphelApr 20, 20184 votes

even if it SHOULD be justified in certain situations

like?

BijeesnyApr 20, 20181 votes

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like?

If some1 is inting, I think you should be allowed to express your dissatisfation (as long as it doesnt cross those extreme lines (kys etc.)). It's ridiculous thta you can be in danger of getting punished for calling some1 out

Colgate GatorApr 20, 20184 votes

The irony here is that OP needs to grow up.

FOR JUSTICEApr 20, 20183 votes

Or rather then complain that they're soft because you got punished for it you can just not insult them in the first place.

But thats just me.

130xApr 20, 20182 votes

The games just nerve wrecking now. With mute options you should 100% be able to be verbally negative.

The biggest issue is actual game effecting feeding, inting, afk, the old follow the jg around and last hit mobs move. Those are the only actions that should be punishable.

I have watch this anti "toxic" action go from legit to now just plain silly. Any offensive action is called toxic. Personally, I feel this entire action is set up by the trolls. This gives them so much power and potential to destroy and harm people with passive agressive bs. I just plain despise what league is today.

It is NateApr 20, 20181 votes

Well said. Maybe I should've said something like this.

Imperial PandaaApr 20, 20185 votes

With the availability of earplugs, I should be able to shout "Fire!" in a crowded movie theater.

130xApr 20, 20181 votes

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With the availability of earplugs, I should be able to shout "Fire!" in a crowded movie theater.

Lol that is a ridiculous comparison.

dKiWiApr 20, 20181 votes

how is telling some to take meds flaming or toxic? [sg-lux-2]

It is NateApr 21, 20181 votes

Not too sure

Pls Grow A PairApr 21, 20181 votes

Completely agree with you. Unfortunately this is the direction the world is heading with our youth, largely spearheaded by the democrats whether you people want to acknowledge it or not, they are making future generations hypersensitive snowflakes and amongst younger people it has become the norm, hence why league of legends will ban you so easily compared to just 2 seasons ago where you would get a chat restrict for the same actions lol.

My whole life playing online video games has been filled with talking shit to me and I never took any of it to heart. Why? Because random people I met on a game for the first time and that I'll never see again don't mean shit to me. And if I didn't want to hear it, you always had the option of just muting that person! People on here prefer to pretend the mute button doesn't exist and bitch about flame in the boards lol it's kinda pathetic

These people cannot take any form of critcizm or negativity which is actually seriously unhealthy in the real world, but maybe these don't step outside as much as we do. Cuz I always had my coaches from sports shouting at me, my parents and other people that demanded things from me. Its called life!

ModPrandineApr 21, 20181 votes

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Completely agree with you. Unfortunately this is the direction the world is heading with our youth, largely spearheaded by the democrats whether you people want to acknowledge it or not, they are making future generations hypersensitive snowflakes and amongst younger people it has become the norm, hence why league of legends will ban you so easily compared to just 2 seasons ago where you would get a chat restrict for the same actions lol.

It's really not that hard to avoid being banned if you simply follow the simple rule of "don't be a jerk". I've been playing since Season 2 and have never been warned or banned, and while I do get angry and frustrated at other players sometimes I keep that anger out of the chat and instead just yell and rage at the screen.

It's not about being an "oversensitive snowflake" or whatever other excuse people try to use to justify being jerks it's about some basic respect and decency and not lashing out at people like a little kid at the first sign of trouble.

My whole life playing online video games has been filled with talking shit to me and I never took any of it to heart. Why? Because random people I met on a game for the first time and that I'll never see again don't mean shit to me. And if I didn't want to hear it, you always had the option of just muting that person! People on here prefer to pretend the mute button doesn't exist and bitch about flame in the boards lol it's kinda pathetic

I agree that people should make more use of the mute button in situations where someone refuses to act civil. That said, the mute button is no excuse for the poor behavior that person already displayed, hence why a common saying around here is "mute, report and move on".

These people cannot take any form of critcizm or negativity which is actually seriously unhealthy in the real world, but maybe these don't step outside as much as we do. Cuz I always had my coaches from sports shouting at me, my parents and other people that demanded things from me. Its called life!

Depends on how you deliver your criticism. People are generally more willing to listen to criticism when it's given in a mature and respectful manner and not filled with insults, raging and harassment. From Ulanopo's Knowledge Base:

I don't think that I should be punished for trying to give advice.

If you have been hit with a punishment, that likely means that you are being negative in your advice towards others. As an example, stop feeding is not good advice. The negative connotation around feeding in this game makes you seem hostile and accusatory, and will likely cause more problems than it solves. On top of that, youre not actually giving advice, youre only telling them what not to do rather than HOW they can stop feeding. Better advice would be to hug your turret and wait for a gank or help bot snowball, Ill be fine once we get to late game.

Even if you are being positive or neutral with your advice, it is likely to be misconstrued as negative for a whole host of reasons:

While in a Ranked game, we are likely more stressed than normal, which makes us more likely to lash out at someone, even if they are trying to genuinely help

We often associate our teammates with raging idiots rather than people genuinely trying to help us.
Text has no tone of voice, so because of the above, it can easily be misconstrued (we all have our stories of that time it happened to us, even between friends and family).
You are at the same elo, and as a result at about the same skill level, as your allies, and are therefore not in a position to give advice to them.
You dont know the mentality of the one with whom youre giving advice to.

I want to talk about the final point especially, as there can be any number of things going on behind the screen that you dont know about. They could be tired, or drunk, and therefore playing more sluggishly. They could be actual trolls, and dont care what you have to say. They could already know what theyre doing, but for whatever reason (going on tilt, tunnel vision, etc), forget to act on that knowledge or experience. Or they could be genuinely unsure as to what to do. In all but the last one, they are going to be less than willing to accept anything that you say to them. Even if someone means well when they tell me how to improve in the game, I often already know what theyre trying to say, and am already beating myself up over it. Telling me what Im doing wrong and how to improve merely irritates me even more, makes me more self-aware, and then mess up more as a result of over-thinking something.

If you are still determined to help others, then I strongly recommend that you only do so when they explicitly ask for feedback, in order to minimize your helping words to fall on deaf ears. I also recommend that you maintain a neutral or positive tone. Say what they did right before you say what they did wrong, and theyll be more willing to listen to you, as you will come across as a more balanced individual who can recognize the strengths in others as well as the weaknesses. Also refrain from doing so while in-game, in order to minimize the impact there. There is nothing inherently wrong with giving feedback to others, but, unfortunately, you do so at your own risk.