riot employees should read the chat before banning

daddy123··2 votes·1,131 views

I don't know if riot employees read chats before bans, but if not, can it happen. I got banned for two weeks because someone going 4/14 said I was an idiot for going in when, 1. I didn't even want to, and 2. I'm fed... So we get into a fight and I get banned even though he started it. I don't want to get unbanned, my last day is tomorrow and I've learned my lesson, I just think that this shouldent happen again.

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BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

Being fed or not has absolutely nothing to do with toxicity. Plus, you had the option to Mute when he started the fight, and you chose NOT to. You deserved it.

JlackBesus2 votes

Its well known that riot prefer gameplay toxicity than verbal toxicity. Thats why u can feed and troll and keep playing without saying shit.

Jamaree1 votes

No one is going to believe you are innocent or care about your opinion until you post your logs.

Onegarion1 votes

so wait. You claim they don't first and then recant and say you aren't sure. Seriously bad way to get anyone to agree with you. Also it doesn't matter who started the flaming as long as you flamed. 2 wrongs don't make a right, which means you are still wrong.

ModPrandine1 votes

Riot does read the chat logs before banning someone. Since all permabans are handed out by a Riot employee, they have to go through the account history and read all of that information before they hand one out to someone. Also, you're not gonna get much support or help here without posting your reform card first.

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

The Instant Feedback System gives permabans without manual review. There is no difference between what it takes to get a 14 day ban from the system and a permaban (except which step you were already on of course), so there is no need to have them manually reviewed.

ModPrandine

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The Instant Feedback System gives permabans without manual review. There is no difference between what it takes to get a 14 day ban from the system and a permaban (except which step you were already on of course), so there is no need to have them manually reviewed.

Really? I'm pretty sure that Riot does review all permaban cases before handing them out. Can you link me to where they said what you said if it's not too much trouble please and thank you?

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

I verified this directly through Player Support contacts, so unfortunately I don't have anything I can link.

Sythriel Draken1 votes

And thus is a major flaw in the system. the fact that it's all automated with no human person even checking up on the system is stupid.. hell even blizzard has humans working in conjuction with machines on their toxicity issue

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

You keep saying things like this, yet posts about "riot banned me unfairly" on this board continue to prove that it's extremely effective :3

Sythriel Draken1 votes

I will continue to say that because I have only seen about 7 posts where a riot employee has actually done something.. hell, I've seen more posts where a forum moderator has done more work than anyone at riot.. Maybe that's why lyte quit.. finally got tired of all the bs.

MasterSomething1 votes

Lyte left for family issues. Also, the tribunal had plenty of interaction... But it was very corrupt. Some people didn't take their job seriously and spammed punish, it was very backed up, most of the punishments were not serious...

DaF00z1 votes

False. I just got permabanned in a few seconds of a game I played. Please do not state something that is not true.

Kei1431 votes

just because he's 4/14, doesn't mean he doesn't have a valid point for not wanting to fight.

though calling you an idiot is another matter.

Its easier to see the situation clearly from the outside after all. 4/14 or not.

MasterSomething1 votes

he started it

Doesn't matter. What matters is that you did do it.

FurriesAreHot2 votes

But Ms.Brian, Timmy threw the rock first! I just threw it harder!

MasterSomething1 votes

Yea all I got was a scratch, and even though he got a broken head, it was all his fault!

AJStarhiker1 votes

I think it came up a few months ago on Lyte's Ask page (just checked; the account's disabled). Because of the tiering, the question is no longer "Is this worth a permaban" it's "Is this worth a punishment".

If you're at the edge of a cliff, it doesn't matter if you're six feet or "only" six inches past the edge. You're still off the cliff and falling.

Fovere1 votes

Riot doesn't care one bit about what's going on in your games.

If they see any chat that isn't happy chat you're going to be punished for it

ModPrandine1 votes

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Riot doesn't care one bit about what's going on in your games.

If they see any chat that isn't happy chat you're going to be punished for it

Actually the chat doesn't have to be "happy chat", it just has to be neutral or positive. If the chat becomes really negative then that's when it can be punished.

Colgate Gator1 votes

You aren't banned for 2 weeks by accident.

You should remember too, this is your last chance, as the only escalation after a 2 weeks ban is a permanent one, think of this as your second chance and change the way you behave.

No matter if the other brat starts the fight, don't engage on it, mute and report them, otherwise you will see yourself banned and locked out of your account.

eastcoastblaze1 votes

Not sure about permas, but they do state they do for 2 week bans. However they dont read the logs as one of my friends got a 2 week ban after getting reported in a game we just played. The ban was so fast we couldn't even get into champ select. And it referenced the gane we just played as the game that got him banned.

The time for hin getting reported to banned was less that 2 minutes. Thats not enough tine for an employee to actually read the logs and make an informed decision

TrulyBland1 votes

A) Never seen them state they manually check the logs for 2 week bans. Would like to see a quote on that (just out of curiousity, not calling you a liar) B) With a false positive rate as low as theirs it makes sense to have the punishment distributed automatically, and reviewing the case manually afterwards. C) This might not apply to your friend, but honestly, I've been on Tribunal fairly often when it was still active. There are quite a few cases where you can make an informed decision in significantly less than 2 minutes. Not the majority (luckily), but still.

Icestar11861 votes

Since when do they not?

Also, mute and report. Don't respond.

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