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Yo, can I not be perma banned? (riot pls)

HauntedPanda··1 votes·485 views

I just got banned forever and I am a pretty steamed. I would have been fine with a 2 week suspension or something but I was not expecting a permanent ban since I just began playing league of legends again. I got the chat restrictions and the game suspensions earlier last year and had totally forgotten about them. I am pretty sure my behavior had a improved for a good tid bit, but I guess I returned to some old habits recently to where I was flagged as toxic for making fun of a daydreamer on my team. I feel like this was taken a bit out of context though because our entire team was thrashing the tryndamere and at one point it just became more of a meme than anything. I also called our Cho Gath a "Velociraptor lookin' ass %%%%%" because he looked like a Velociraptor from Jurassic park due to his skin. What I am trying to say is that I feel a bit robbed on this perma ban considering the time that has passed since my last restrictions and suspension and that I was completely unaware of the negative effect my behavior could toll. I know there's no sympathy for the devil but I firmly believe in second chances and if Johnny Football can go back into the NFL, HauntedPanda should be allowed back on the rift. (or not because everybody on the forum seems to feel the need to express their moral high ground like they baptized the population of Haiti)

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ModThe Djinn6 votes

So it's hard to actually weigh in when I'm preemptively accused of expressing a moral high ground, so let me stick to the hard facts and remove my opinion from them.

  1. Riot does not unban permanently banned accounts unless the punishment was in error.
  2. Their policy is that the "second chance" is the chance to reform your behavior following a 14-day ban.
  3. The word after "Velociraptor look' ass -----" is something Riot considers hate speech, even with the -a instead of -er, and even when used casually.
  4. Hate speech earns an immediate 14-day suspension or escalates your account an equivalent amount.
  5. Reform is marked by games played with good behavior, not by time passed, so your account did not improve its standing during the time you were away.
  6. With a 14-day ban earlier this year, it's extremely likely your account had not reverted far enough to a good account status to survive a zero-tolerance offense like hate speech.
  7. Trashing another player is something Riot always considered unacceptable, whether as a "meme" or not.

As such, I am afraid that the punishment will stand.

Kinsyn1 votes

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  1. The word after "Velociraptor look' ass -----" is something Riot considers hate speech, even with the -a instead of -er, and even when used casually.

Ass|hole is hate speech? What the actual fuck!?

Chermorg3 votes

"hole" is not the word that was in the ----- part.

ModThe Djinn3 votes

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Ass|hole is hate speech? What the actual fuck!?

Asshole is not, no, although it is an insult. The censored word there was a racial slur.

Get Ogre Here1 votes

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Ass|hole is hate speech? What the actual fuck!?

f%ggot is hate speech

Jhynx2 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GzQxrhOX,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-03-28T21:35:57.966+0000)

  1. Riot does not unban permanently banned accounts unless the punishment was in error.

What was that one toxic guy called again? Uhhhh.. i think his name had a T and a 1 in it...

ModThe Djinn4 votes

{quoted}What was that one toxic guy called again? Uhhhh.. i think his name had a T and a 1 in it...

Yep. And none of his accounts were unbanned. All that happened is that his very unique situation was rolled back to be a more typical ban.

So it is consistent with the policy that Riot does not unban accounts unless the punishment was in error. No accounts were returned to that individual. His existing and future accounts were merely taken off of the "ban on sight regardless of violations" list.

Jhynx1 votes

Fair enough, but i still dont think he deserved it.

ModThe Djinn2 votes

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Fair enough, but i still dont think he deserved it.

That's fine, but a decidedly different topic that's not really related to this one. :)

Slythion2 votes

Copy+Paste chat logs.

Roam Support2 votes

Nothing lasts forever don t sorry you will get your account back

RallerenP1 votes

I feel like this was taken a bit out of context though because our entire team was thrashing the tryndamere and at one point it just became more of a meme than anything.

The Tryndamere might not have found it funny though.

What I am trying to say is that I feel a bit robbed on this perma ban considering the time that has passed since my last restrictions and suspension and that I was completely unaware of the negative effect my behavior could toll.

Doesn't matter how much time has passed since a punishment, it matters how many games you've played and how much improvement you've shown in your behaviour. The system can't relax with you just because you've been away for a while.

I know there's no sympathy for the devil but I firmly believe in second chances

The chat-restriction and the 14-day ban WAS you 2nd, 3rd AND 4th chance. How many more do you need?

or not because everybody on the forum seems to feel the need to express their moral high ground

Most of the certified Riot White Knights™ (/s) on boards would happily accept punishment for poor behaviour. I'm absolutely sure of it.

HauntedPanda1 votes

Doesn't matter how much time has passed since a punishment, it matters how many games you've played and how much improvement you've shown in your behaviour. The system can't relax with you just because you've been away for a while.

Yeah but there was no friggin indicator that I should be watching my behavior or that I COULD BE PERMA BANNED. I had 100% forgot about that my previous suspension was so serious and that I could be perma banned. I feel like I should have had some kind of warning or account restriction to remind me I was on the ropes of something like this.

RallerenP2 votes

You were told that the next punishment would be a permaban on the 14-day reform card...

I feel like I should have had some kind of warning or account restriction to remind me I was on the ropes of something like this.

I don't agree. You shouldn't need reminders to behave nicely towards other human beings.

HauntedPanda1 votes

Yeah, I guess i'll just start over on league. Thank you for your input and i'll try to change my mindset around while playing competitive games. I hope the best for everyone in this strange world.

AraMoOse2 votes

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Yeah but there was no friggin indicator that I should be watching my behavior or that I COULD BE PERMA BANNED. I had 100% forgot about that my previous suspension was so serious and that I could be perma banned. I feel like I should have had some kind of warning or account restriction to remind me I was on the ropes of something like this.

You know what? I've NEVER received any warnings that I should watch MY behavior, does that mean I should start nerdraging at everyone?

For that matter, I've never received any indicators that I shouldn't murder people either...

HalcyonDweller1 votes

That bites dude, unfortunately the system tracks based on games played, not on time passed.

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