hello i got bann 14 days for intentional feeding i went 1/24/5 and i had more damage than the enemy jungler by 3k and my adc by 2.5k also and idk why i am blamed for intentional feeding because i got camped a lot and died all game but i did try so please unban me I am AlvisoFm
ModPrandine15 votesEven if we ignore the 1-24-5 Xin game, there's still the matter of a 3-14-1 Xin game and a 2-15-3 Nunu game, both of which are back-to-back games with a relatively standard 10-10-11 game between the 3-14-1 and 1-24-5 games.
Going further back in your match history you have two afk Tahm Kench games (both of which were remade because of it) where you have no items and are lv.1 while everyone else is lv.2 or 3. There's another TK game where though you have Corrupting Potion the story is still the same as the two itemless and csless games. There's also the matter of a 1-12-2 TK game as well where the enemy team has a very fed varus, morgana and anivia likely due to the int.feeding.
Conclusion: You're not fooling anyone here as it's clear that you have a history of afking and intentionally feeding. You clearly have allot of experience playing TK (especially in ranked) since he's your main, and at least some with both Nunu and Xin Zhao as both have one game where there's nothing out of the ordinary, though I did notice that in both Nunu games (4-4-22 and 2-15-3 respectively) you ran Smite-Teleport and both were double jungle games with a J4 and Graves jungle respectively, the former of which had an arguably better performance than you did. While I can understand having a bad game here and there there's enough evidence here to prove that you have a long history of poor gameplay behavior, hence the ban. Next time if you're going to lie at least try to make it a convincing one.
AlvisoFm1 votesEven if we ignore the 1-24-5 Xin game, there's still the matter of a 3-14-1 Xin game and a 2-15-3 Nunu game, both of which are back-to-back games with a relatively standard 10-10-11 game between the 3-14-1 and 1-24-5 games.
Going further back in your match history you have two afk Tahm Kench games (both of which were remade because of it) where you have no items and are lv.1 while everyone else is lv.2 or 3. There's another TK game where though you have Corrupting Potion the story is still the same as the two itemless and csless games. There's also the matter of a 1-12-2 TK game as well where the enemy team has a very fed varus, morgana and anivia likely due to the int.feeding.
Conclusion: You're not fooling anyone here as it's clear that you have a history of afking and intentionally feeding. You clearly have allot of experience playing TK since he's your main, and at least some with both Nunu and Xin Zhao as both have one game where there's nothing out of the ordinary, though I did notice that in both Nunu games (4-4-22 and 2-15-3 respectively) you ran Smite-Teleport and both were double jungle games with a J4 and Graves jungle respectively. the former of which had an arguably better performance than you did. While I can understand having a bad game here and there there's enough evidence here to prove that you have a long history of poor gameplay behavior, hence the ban. Next time if you're going to lie at least try to make it a convincing one.
lol this guy right here is just striaght up roasting my whole match history over here look bro as you said yourself clearly im not a great player because my match history has a lot of bad games but that doesnt mean im an int feeder if you look at any of those games in replay they are all games where im trying and playing and even if it doesnt always work out so what its a game right but i dont think i should get banned for 2 weeks because i got buttblasted. the only game linked was the xin game so i dont think any of those other games were falsely flagged as this one had been but since you brought them up yeah apaprently i suck and this can be a roast alviso thread but then can i get my erroneous automated ban overturned please
EDIT: and the two afk games were one because i had to take a really big poop and second because i got too high and fell asleep but neither of those things are relevant to this ban and also i served my 5 games of 5 min timer for the 2nd afk so i did my time on that
ModPrandine3 voteslol this guy right here is just striaght up roasting my whole match history over here look bro as you said yourself clearly im not a great player because my match history has a lot of bad games but that doesnt mean im an int feeder if you look at any of those games in replay they are all games where im trying and playing and even if it doesnt always work out so what its a game right but i dont think i should get banned for 2 weeks because i got buttblasted. the only game linked was the xin game so i dont think any of those other games were falsely flagged as this one had been but since you brought them up yeah apaprently i suck and this can be a roast alviso thread but then can i get my erroneous automated ban overturned please
The point is that this wasn't just a one-time occurrence or a bad game as you have a history of this kind of behavior. Yes there are a couple of TK games where you were struggling but so was your entire team and there was nothing that stood out to me as out of the ordinary in them or the games where you and your teams were doing pretty good. Having a bad game or two is one thing but when your match history shows several games with a similar trend to them as the Xin Zhao game you mentioned then there's a problem. The ban is justified as far as I'm concerned.
AlvisoFm1 votesSo... when I do good my match history looks good and when I have a bad game my match history looks bad? Well yeah bro that makes sense, but why should you ban be cause of that LOL. IDK man to me it seems like if you can see that clearly im not very good and sometimes i feed my butt off and it doesnt look "out of the ordinary" then why is this one game being called int feeding - i fully admit i suck dude im just saying that is not the same as int feeding and its not fair to be called an inter because i played my like 3rd xin zhao game in ranked lol - i also sucked with nunu once as you mentioned, then i did pretty good with him. IDK how its fair to ban me for not always being a good player LOL im not in high elo im silver and i only just got placed there so ill probably go down, but wtf riot u ban me because i suck? then place me lower or something
OatheSworn1 votesEcks dee:
"EDIT: and the two afk games were one because i had to take a really big poop"
LOL
Chermorg10 votesSo, the Xin Zhao jungle died 16 times in botlane? About half of those deaths being under the enemy turret?
Please do not attempt to lie on these boards by using misleading statistics to justify your intentional feeding.
AlvisoFm1 votesbro if you look at the game u will see clearly this was not feeding i understand it was bad game but idk how this is int feedbecause i sucked. tbh i feel like my bot lane friends might have contributed tolack of success but im trying to be diplomat over here
BeatzBoyFTW2 votesSo clearly you made a mistake, and then you refused to learned from it & just continued the exact same mistake 16 times.
Take that 14 days suspension as a lesson & learn from what you just did.
AlvisoFm1 voteswell it was kind of like this , i made the same mistake at blue buff for a few deaths then i went blot lane and died a few times then i tried to roam around eventually and then we taemfought a few times but yeah it wasnt just like i was ramming my head against a wall for 15 mins or something i just had no real good way to do anything after i couldnt farm jungle so i tried going bot but they outplayed us and then we couldnt really do much after that so i feel you go ahead and roast me but its not an int feed i just did badly
Jo0o6 votesHow can you possibly justify that game? You gave up first blood at 0:55, then proceeded to feed the enemy ADC 20 kills. You died almost once per minute, which when factoring in the time to run back to the match plus death timer is damn near impossible. And almost all of your deaths are in the bot lane, which means you were certainly giving them intentionally.
AlvisoFm1 votesbro i got a kill an 5 assist i did more dmg than my adc by almost 40% and beat their jungler by more even, i was trying to gank but it was a bad game bro i got killed at my blue by a 3 man gank then they camped me again when i went back for it a second time and then i tried to help bot since i couldnt get my blue and died a 3rd time and i died a lot but not because of on purpose or anything and look my items and my behaviors i am buying items i think i can use to help beat them that a xin zhao build im not buying 6 tear or stupid items at all
Jo0o10 votesYou did more damage than your ADC because the poor guy had to contend with the 20-kill monster Kog that you intentionally fed. Fucking obviously.
I'm the easiest lay on these fucking forums for forgiving people for having a bad game, and I'm always the guy saying that KDA doesn't tell the whole story, but this is just shameful. You may have literally died as much as is physically possible in the time frame allotted. You died more than the rest of your team combined. You died enough times to raise eyebrows in an hour-long game, and it was just 26 minutes. You died more than most people do in any game in their League careers, across any game mode. You earned less gold than your support who, and I cannot stress this enough, had to lane against that massive Kog'Maw.
Oh, and most damning: You sold your hunter's machete to buy mobis at 6 minutes. You're a flagrant intentional feeder, and this thread is pathetic and insulting. Go away.
AlvisoFm1 votesYou did more damage than your ADC because the poor guy had to contend with the 20-kill monster Kog that you intentionally fed. Fucking obviously.
I'm the easiest lay on these fucking forums for forgiving people for having a bad game, and I'm always the guy saying that KDA doesn't tell the whole story, but this is just shameful. You may have literally died as much as is physically possible in the time frame allotted. You died more than the rest of your team combined. You died enough times to raise eyebrows in an hour-long game, and it was just 26 minutes. You died more than most people do in any game in their League careers, across any game mode. You earned less gold than your support who, and I cannot stress this enough, had to lane against that massive Kog'Maw.
Oh, and most damning: You sold your hunter's machete to buy mobis at 6 minutes. You're a flagrant intentional feeder, and this thread is pathetic and insulting. Go away.
nah bro look i get it u can roast me all u want but its pretty clear i didnt int feed here cuz if you look at the game, 3 of my first deaths are all really easy to explain - i got 3 man camped on top of my freakin blue buff lol so i mean sure i coulda got vision or something but u dont usually expect the 3 man bush gank and my bot wasnt leashing since i was xin so w/e right anyway then they stayed when iwent back and so then i went to bot lane and tried to at least help gank but it didnt work out and then since i was getting camped in my own jungle and couldnt farm anyway i went bot lane and tried to at least get a fast first blood tower which if u watch the game theres a point where we can almost get it but my team lays off for some reason idk and we back up and then they get top tower instead later but at that point im trying to just farm up and get strong again since im already worthless and useless after 2x camp and then dying in multiple failed ganks which admittely are because i failed at ganking . but what is the use of having a hunters machete and a refill instead of boots to get to lane when all im trying to do is basically play tryndamere until i can get some cs and levels to be relevant again after that horrible start? it was a logical buy and so were my next buys
Umbral Regent2 votesi got 3 man camped on top of my freakin blue buff lol so i mean sure i coulda got vision or something but u dont usually expect the 3 man bush gank and my bot wasnt leashing since i was xin so w/e right anyway then they stayed when iwent back
This would never happen. There's no way you're that irrational - nobody in their right mind would go straight back to the buff they got killed at after the enemy invades. And more than that - you did that twice. You went right back to the same place you died two times, expecting a different outcome.
I call bullshit. If you got invaded and killed at blue buff, you would've gone for your red buff instead.
but what is the use of having a hunters machete and a refill instead of boots to get to lane when all im trying to do is basically play tryndamere until i can get some cs and levels to be relevant again after that horrible start? it was a logical buy and so were my next buys
No, that wasn't a logical buy, at all. Hunter's Machete, Hunter's Talisman, and their upgrades give you bonus EXP for killing Jungle creeps, Boots of Mobility doesn't. The only rational reason you'd ditch your Machete to buy Boots of Mobility is to go to the enemy quicker to feed, not to bounce back.
I'll give that Skirmisher's Saber (Warrior) and Blade of the Ruined King are logical buys (I'd say Bloodrazor is better than Warrior, though), but that doesn't excuse your clear intentional feeding. You died way too frequently to be considered trying to farm, and more than that, you died the majority of times on bottom lane.
If you were really trying to farm your way back into relevance, you would've been farming your jungle, not throwing yourself at the enemy bottom lane.
AlvisoFm1 votesnah bro go back and reread it more carefully first off yeah i actually did go straight back to my blue buff lmao maybe im just stupid but i didnt think they would sit there for another 30 sec because i figured they would tihnk i wouldnt go back so they wouldnt stay anyway they DID stay and i died but w/e im not gonna argue that with you cuz thats easy to see for riot with the replay they can see. all i want is to get unbanned so i dont really have to prove it to you if the video will show im telling the truth lol but yeah thats what i actually did, guess its dumb to you but w/e.
and the farming part go back and reread because like i said i was going bot lane to try and help get a first objective on turret not to farm jungle because i did figure out after the 2nd time that my jungle wasnt safe lol so as you said i changed my bhavior and i went bot to go for first tower
The Cream Reaper2 votesplease record the game with the replay option and put it on youtube
regardless if you're a liar or not, i'd still like to watch that game
General Esdeath 2 votesJudging by the death locations looks more like you were running it down bot lane.
The Cream Reaper1 votesyou basically died once every minute in a 26 minute game but you weren't inting
k
https://i.imgur.com/1QMq6MF.gif
and it's not like it was a one time thing. you have a few more games like that.
i could understand if you were bronze 5. but you are silver f-in 3. who are you trying to kid?
AlvisoFm1 votesidk bro i just got placed in silver 3 like less than a week ago cuz i won like 2 of my placements or something retarded
The Cream Reaper1 votesyou had a 2-8 score in your placements and got silver 3?
it's a bought account, isn't it?
AlvisoFm1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GrmPK5yP,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-01-09T07:32:58.528+0000)
you had a 2-8 score in your placements and got silver 3?
it's a bought account, isn't it?
naw but its dumb right i think it placed me in silver 3 or 4 or something but point is im pretty sure ur diagonisis might be right im probably bad at the game that bean said idk how u can call it intentional feeding because clearly i am trying i just was playing xin zhao who i am really frikin bad at apparently and also playing jungle which if u look at my history i dont play very much, PLUS i just did shit so idk why u have to dogpile on and give me a 14 day ban LOL thats all im saying - free me because i didnt int i just fed cuz i sucked
The Cream Reaper2 votesgo away, troll!
AlvisoFm1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GrmPK5yP,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-09T07:39:57.486+0000)
go away, troll!
uh... ? ok
Imperial Pandaa1 votesIt is plausible if it is his first ranked season.
The Cream Reaper1 votesno it isn't
OatheSworn1 votesReally?!? My friend got 7W-3L in his ranked and he said he only got Silver 4...
sleepysithlord2 votes[{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GrmPK5yP,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-01-09T07:32:58.528+0000)
you had a 2-8 score in your placements and got silver 3?
it's a bought account, isn't it?
Oh lol it totally is. Look at his match history from about a month ago. Looks like it was leveled up by bots or something
Eternal Torment1 votesElo judgement has Little to do with someone's score and performance. While yes, we can see in the chat history that the TC does show arguably underlined proof of being an intentional feeder, It doesn't mean it is because of his elo. I've seen Diamonds go 0/10 unintentionally. Camping can screw the best of Players.
For the General case, elo judgement is very morally underground and i daresay close to discrimination. For the sake of being taken serious in the future, i do advice you to not do that anymore.
TL;DR TC may be a feeder but that's because of his personality not because of his elo. shaming that serves nothing but to spray acid over the wound.
General Esdeath 2 votesELO matters when it tells you this person isn't just stupid and trying to tower dive
Eternal Torment1 votesit doesn't. It's called "Elo-SHAMING" for good reason.
You can be in challenger and then take a 180 and feed the crap out of your games. what makes a feeder is his stupidity as a Person, not as a ranked.
AlvisoFm1 votesguys quit raosting me arleady i get it im not good at the game but that isnt the same thing as int feeding and this ban was not fair cuz if u look at the game and how it played out clearly i wasnt int feeding. i bought all sensible items i did something that ithought made the best sense to win the game, i warded i did stuff and made plays and did lots of dmg to enemy and objectives and tried to beat the enemy but in the end i got buttblasted and that should not be a bannable offense
The Cream Reaper1 votesYou can be in challenger and then take a 180 and feed the crap out of your games.
and as a silver player you've met enough challengers in your games to make that statement factual, right?
because i watch challenger streams and lcs and ive never seen a challenger go 24 deaths in a 26 minute game
i've seen quite a bunch of bronze games go 100 kills per team in a game tho
Eternal Torment1 votesSee? You rely on practical joking to reason with your Statement. You twist my words to turn them into Statements to then belittle what i am telling you.
Shaming of any Kind is below any of us, elo shaming only makes it silly because honestly, who can look proudly into the mirror knowing they deliberatedly try to degrade someone over a game with categorizable specifics?
To repeat what i said. "You CAN be in challenger and then take a 180 and feed the crap out of your games". Anyone can be a feeder. ANYONE. It is a mindset, not a category to be judged. Bronze, challenger, everyone is individual, and thus everyone could feed if they chose to.
You try to reason his feeding with elo shaming only goes to show that either A you are incapable of seeing beyond your own ego-set thinking or B you actually have fun shaming people.
And just to be clear, while yes, ELO generally does define some form of Skill difference, you imply that bronze is the be all end all hell where the worst of the worst gather and cases like the TC feeding would be, quoting your word. "understandable" if he was in bronze, because by your own meaning, he could get away with saying he was being just plain dumb.
I can start to understand why you've been getting a very negative Reputation lately on the boards.
The Cream Reaper1 votes[deleted]
Eternal Torment1 votesA im not an sjw. I barely know what that is. B that you would judge this topic on just that inclines dangerous arrogance and C you know i can report comments like that as offensive right?
The Cream Reaper2 votesA im not an sjw
your comments say otherwise
C you know i can report comments like that as offensive right?
A-Z instead of threatening me with it, you should do it. In fact you should stalk me and report every single comment that i put up over the past month that you get offended by!
go for it!
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Eternal Torment2 votesYou are twisting again. I'm not threatening you, but hey ok, pull the victim Card. break a rule, offendably judge someone AND refuse anyhow to reason, then say "But i was threatened".
And as if that wasn't enough, you also now go and slander me around to anyone else who talks to me within this post, regarding your issuings on the topic? That's a low blow even for you.
The Cream Reaper2 votesyou don't know what "slander" is either i see...
whatever, dude!
Eternal Torment2 votesSlander/Slandering is the term when you negatively spread or promote hate-behaviour or otherwise promote and advertise the badmouthing of someone.
You going to others and blatantly labeling me an SJW (Whatever that is) And accusing me of being unreasonable in the same sentence. that is a core Definition of slandering.
[{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GrmPK5yP,comment-id=000200010000000000020000,timestamp=2018-01-09T10:07:20.200+0000)
sjw's don't think like that. just leave him be and walk away!
Or will you imply that you never posted this comment, and never meant to let it do the one Thing it does: Tell others that i am not to be reasoned with?
You can't really pull the "youre dumb" Card in here.
The Cream Reaper1 votesYou going to others and blatantly labeling me an SJW (Whatever that is) And accusing me of being unreasonable in the same sentence. that is a core Definition of slandering.
but if you supposedly don't know what sjw is then why do you also say that it's a bad thing?
[sg-lux-2]
i guess you're a troll aswell on top of everything else
Or will you imply that you never posted this comment, and never meant to let it do the one Thing it does: Tell others that i am not to be reasoned with?
well... you keep proving that you can't with every reply you push forward so...
anyway...
this has gone off the rails long enough, troll.
just drop it!
this is my last message on this post
AlvisoFm1 votes[{quoted}](name=Eternal Torment,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GrmPK5yP,comment-id=00020001000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-09T10:13:01.132+0000)
A im not an sjw. I barely know what that is. B that you would judge this topic on just that inclines dangerous arrogance and C you know i can report comments like that as offensive right?
bros bros this thread is not about your petty stuff its about how alviso needs to be unbanned because he didnt do anything and is falsely ascused of inting when he didnt do it
The Cream Reaper1 votesbros bros this thread is not about your petty stuff
https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/500x/29932595/but-mom-he-started-it.jpg
General Esdeath 1 votesELO judgment, as you said, is no ELO shaming. ELO shaming is "Shut up you're bronze hehe xd"
ELO judging is "I really don't think you, a plat player would accidentally walk under the enemy tower 4 times..."
The Cream Reaper1 votessjw's don't think like that. just leave him be and walk away!
General Esdeath 1 votesHOLD ME BACK CREAM
The Cream Reaper1 voteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy6spOAbxhg
in a nutshell
General Esdeath 1 votesHoly shit I remember this
Eternal Torment1 votesHe's just slandering me as an sjw because i brought up the word discrimination (Since the Definition of that is harmful and/or negative judgement based on public classifications or normed specifics, such as ranks). As for your comment. I know very well the difference between elo judging and elo shaming. But both are unwelcomed either way. a slap to the face or a kick to the balls make no difference if both Things are attacks with the pure intend to harm.
The reason i addressed this guy's elo referencing as shaming is because he was strongly expressing that for B5 it is understandable to feed because he thinks they are just that bad. While yes, B5 is the lowest Tier and division in this game, It doesn't mean they are the worst people or Players. They simply are the worst at winning the teamgame, which in a pvp is inevitable to have since somebody has to be at the worst luck with who his enemies are.
Furthermore, he addressed the guy being a feeder and in silver with a strong displeased tone, which hints to either 1) He expresses shame for the TC as a silver Player to feed this hard and try to reason about it or 2) he attempted it to be a degratory Statement that should shut down the TC's intended reason for creating the post, which is an attempt at explaining his horrendous scores. One way or another, i don't agree with the TC being unable to see he did feed, but i also don't agree with the aggressive overcocky attitude cream reaper is presenting.
I don't agree with negativity. simple as that. you can join his shameful bandwagon to slander me for disproving him reasonably, or you can be better and stay in a mature conversation.
The Cream Reaper1 votesI've seen Diamonds go 0/10 unintentionally.
you're comparing a a 1-24 silver game to a 0-10 challenger game
go back to your cave, troll!
For the General case, elo judgement is very morally underground and i daresay close to discrimination.
For the sake of being taken serious in the future, i do advice you to not do that anymore.
given how your logic works, i could care less wether you take me seriously in the future or not
[slayer-jinx-catface]
