Tyler1 toxic, not okay, pros toxic (including to tyler1), perfectly acceptable.

tempname908235··4 votes·851 views

ummm. explain?

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AraMoOse9 votes

Your name is the reason you cannot understand.

tempname9082351 votes

so you don't know. got it.

AraMoOse3 votes

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so you don't know. got it.

Please change your summoner name.

Deep Terror Nami5 votes

Can't even quote it haha

AraMoOse2 votes

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Can't even quote it haha

lmao that is hilarious.

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

Showed up for me on mobile, that's interesting

DrCyanide1 votes

Now you can :)

Reaper Review4 votes

These pros clearly haven't been toxic enough to get punished by Instant Feedback much, if at all, whereas Tyler consistently got permanently banned by it.

Racial/homophobic stuff and death threats aside, it takes a considerable amount of effort to get permanently banned ONCE, let alone the 19+ times Tyler managed it.

tempname9082353 votes

they're toxic on screen, some are even toxic at events. If Riot really wants to create a toxic free environment they shouldn't be allowing people to be toxic in any sort of public way or they shouldn't be pro players.

ModWulf Helhammer4 votes

If they rage in their stream, but keep it out of the game, Riot has absolutely no reason to punish them.

Tyler1 was toxic in game

DrCyanide1 votes

How many of them have encouraged trolling and AFKing the way Tyler1 did, while getting nailed by the automated system as much as he did?

It's not "toxic free" Riot is shooting for, otherwise there'd be more permabans and fewer warnings.

AraMoOse2 votes

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they're toxic on screen, some are even toxic at events. If Riot really wants to create a toxic free environment they shouldn't be allowing people to be toxic in any sort of public way or they shouldn't be pro players.

Ty for changing your name. I can now take you slightly more seriously. As Reaper Review has already replied to you, the intensity of the toxic behavior as well as the recidivism rate in the case of Tyler1 was so extreme that any pro you want to compare it to wouldn't even fit in the same chart.

However, there are plenty of instances of Riot delivering punishments to Pro players for behavioral problems. The most famous of which was the player Iwilldominate who's account was banned and who was personally banned for one year from competing in any Riot events.

There is also the case of Ferellenlord who got suspended from Worlds because of verbal toxicity and racism on the SEA servers.

Then there's the korean dude who got banned for life for some reason, I can't remember.

The point is that your assertion that Riot allows Toxicity if the person is a pro is false.

So TL:DR 1.Riot DOES ban pro players when need be. 2. Tyler's situation was CONSIDERABLY more toxic than any of the pros you want to compare him to, which explains the bigger punishment.

Primaquarius1 votes

Pros just btch at the monitor like normal people, because they actually read the ToS

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

Neither are acceptable. But talking about toxic "pros" and toxic tyler1 like toxic is some measurement and that their beahvior is the same or similar is at best, disingenuous.

Are some pros toxic? probably. Are they anywhere near the level of tyler1? Nothing I have seen comes close(I admittedly don't watch streams much).

Awkward Couch1 votes

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Neither are acceptable. But talking about toxic "pros" and toxic tyler1 like toxic is some measurement and that their beahvior is the same or similar is at best, disingenuous.

Are some pros toxic? probably. Are they anywhere near the level of tyler1? Nothing I have seen comes close(I admittedly don't watch streams much).

I think, from what I've seen elsewhere from Tyler1 fans, is that someone like Meteos is toxic but not in chat. Ergo they should be banned. Now obviously there is that one picture floating around where Meteos was pretty toxic to one player, but that does not signify a indefinite ban IMO.

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