You lost a customer

BUCKEN FITCHES·Oct 31, 2015·4 votes·2,777 views

After three years of playing I have never received any punishment, but one game I say a few bad words, and I get muted for 10 games. Not to mention, the choice of words the other players were using were so much worse than my own. Context: a player on my team said in /all that I told him to get a brain tumor. I did not. I would never. I never have. I said a few cuss words not mentioning any brain tumors or anything else bad. I said some bad words. If a player is going to try to get me reported by saying that I told him to get a brain tumor then yes I will react and tell him to f off. I cant believe this. Note: Zilean was the one who started it but Lux jumped in and was saying that I said it as well.

Riot you lost a customer and a player, I have been harassed before by so many players in games who have said things that are unrepeatable, but with your old system they never faced consequences, but if a player now says sht and fck a few times because they are in a ridiculous situation, they get 10 games. And it was only one game that they showed chats for... 1 bad game and I get muted 10 games. Riot F*ck you.

10 Chat Restrictions

Sydint,

You have received restrictions following an audit of your recent in-game behavior.

In your recent games, you used in-game chat to create a poor experience for others. As a result, your account has received a number of restrictions. If your behavior does not improve, you will continue to receive more severe punishments eventually leading to a permanent ban.

Keep in mind that there’s no excuse to be rude or hurtful to others. You will find examples of your offending chat logs below:

wurth
4 ganks
not ine
one
u lost
u suck
zilean shut up
ur 1-5
shitty ass supp
ur shit
reporting zilean for no skills
no u just are incredibly bad
lol no i didnt..
ask my team
i didnt..
reporting lux and zilean for being fucks
.,..
ur shit
lux is getting reported
eat dick
fuck u lux
fuckhead
I said &quot;fuck you&quot; i said that cause she lied over all and said i told that other fuckead to get a brain tumor
so yes fuck lux
and fuck u 2
w
guess what i dont give a shit all i said was fuck lmao
reporting lux and zilean

If for whatever reason a game is not going well or another player is being hurtful, remember you should not argue with others or retaliate. Instead, just mute those players; stop talking to them; and report them at the end of the game.

95 Comments

redniwediSOct 31, 20158 votes

You can say shit and fuck as much as you want, actually. You can even argue, however you cannot retaliate.

You signed an agreement that said you're willing to be punished if you break any of Riot's rules. You agreed to it, and so it shouldn't surprise you in the slightest that you got punished for breaking their rules. You don't have to agree with their rules, however if you agree you must either follow them or accept punishment.

You ever hear the phrase "if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all"? Try following that. You don't have to defend yourself from words.

EvilDustManOct 31, 20155 votes

It's not JUST that you swore. It's that you retaliated, cursed, AND were pretty verbally abusive. And you got off with TEN GAMES, that's a pretty easy punishment.

BUCKEN FITCHESOct 31, 20151 votes

So I have a clean history, and one game I verbally abuse someone is not even a warning? I am mad because I never cuss or do anything bad. The one time it happens is 10 game???????? Anyone who thinks that is fair is stupid

EvilDustManOct 31, 20153 votes

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So I have a clean history, and one game I verbally abuse someone is not even a warning? I am mad because I never cuss or do anything bad. The one time it happens is 10 game???????? Anyone who thinks that is fair is stupid

It's 10 games. I'm almost certain that 10 games is the absolutely lightest slap on the wrist they dole out.

Archon XOct 31, 20154 votes

yeah you deserved the 10 game chat restriction

I had a 40 game chat restriction from season 4 and I deserved that as well

so nothing personal

BUCKEN FITCHESOct 31, 20151 votes

No you probably said bad things for 40 games. Me saying what I said should be a warning

Archon XOct 31, 20154 votes

lol

no you crossed the line with what you said. it no longer was game related, and instead consisted of personal attacks specifically designed to try to discourage people from playing the game.

are you really surprised that Rito doesn't want you driving away their customers? Maybe grow up and reform your behavior.

BUCKEN FITCHESOct 31, 20151 votes

ok archon x,

are you gonna act like it was just me cussing at people? like Im discouraging them? or they intentionally tried to get me reported? How if I am being abused by 5 others, and I decide to respond because they are all saying shit to me, am I the one discouraging them. And how did I drive away customers? Riot drives away more customers with shitty updates and ruining champs than I ever could??????

redniwediSOct 31, 20153 votes

How if I am being abused by 5 others, and** I decide to respond** because they are all saying shit to me, am I the one discouraging them.

I found your problem, and highlighted it for you.

BUCKEN FITCHESOct 31, 20151 votes

So responding to them is a 10 game mute? no its not I deserved a warning

redniwediSOct 31, 20153 votes

No, you do not deserve a warning. You directly insulted other people, and so you more than earned your 10 game mute.

You made the decision to reply to them, and you made the decision to lower yourself to your level when doing so. They are not innocent, but neither are you.

Riot does not believe an eye for an eye is a good policy, so when you decide to be toxic in response to toxicity you get punished.

BUCKEN FITCHESOct 31, 20151 votes

So if you respond to someone one time with a negative attitude you deserve the 10 game mute? I am pissed off right now responding to everyone so this is not me normally, because I never cuss or insult anyone. I have two mentally challenged cousins and a mom who had a stroke and is not gonna live the rest of her life handicapped. I would never insult anyone just to smite them. I am not toxic, and I slipped once. i deserve a warning

redniwediSOct 31, 20153 votes

You didn't respond one time. You didn't respond with just a negative attitude, you responded with full blown toxicity.

You might not be a toxic person, but your comments that game were. You slipped up and so Riot gave you a small punishment.

I don't think you understand what this is, so I'll put it as plainly as I can. This small punishment is your warning.

BUCKEN FITCHESOct 31, 20151 votes

I responded with full blown toxicity to five people who were full blown toxic. Yes. I don't deserve 10 games for that if its my first time. Maybe if it is a normal game, but it wasn't. What i said wasn't uncalled for. You cant see the whole chat remember. And I didnt even respond ONCE to the others on the other team that were toxic.

redniwediSOct 31, 20153 votes

What you said was uncalled for. The quality of what you said is independent of what they said. They would have gotten what they deserved with or without your own comments.

You didn't have to reply to them. You could have muted them and done your best to ignore what they said. You could have just reported them and moved on.

But you chose to reply. You chose to lower yourself to their level. You chose to get punished for breaking Riot's rules just as they were.

It's only 10 games. They let you off lightly.

BUCKEN FITCHESOct 31, 20151 votes

SO IF YOU REPLY TO 5 EXTREMELY TOXIC PEOPLE IN ONE GAME YOU GET AUT0 10 GAME CHAT RESTRICTIONS????????? THAT IS WHAT I FIND RIDICULOUS. IM NOT SAYING I WASNT TOXIC, CAUSE I WAS. 10 GAMES HOWEVER FOR THE CONTEXT OF MY ENTIRE PLAYER HISTORY IS STUPID. ]

I SHOULD GET A WARNING FROM RIOT LIKE HEY MAYBE DONT TELL PEOPLE TO GO FUCK THEMSELVES OR ELSE ULL GET MUTED AND THEN ID BE LIKE OK RIOT

redniwediSOct 31, 20153 votes

It's not that you replied, it's that you chose to reply with toxicity of your own. You didn't have to, but you did.

redniwediSOct 31, 20152 votes

And I'm saying the 10 game chat ban IS the warning. It's a warning that says if you continue with this behavior you will get punishments like this one.

I honestly can't figure out what you don't understand about this.

EvilDustManOct 31, 20152 votes

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SO IF YOU REPLY TO 5 EXTREMELY TOXIC PEOPLE IN ONE GAME YOU GET AUT0 10 GAME CHAT RESTRICTIONS????????? THAT IS WHAT I FIND RIDICULOUS. IM NOT SAYING I WASNT TOXIC, CAUSE I WAS. 10 GAMES HOWEVER FOR THE CONTEXT OF MY ENTIRE PLAYER HISTORY IS STUPID.

You know that some punishments are like 40, 80, 250, 500 chat restricted games, right?

ModUlanopoOct 31, 20157 votes

A 10-game chat restriction is a warning. If the Tribunal was up and I saw what you posted in the chat logs, I would have voted to punish.

The thing is, Riot doesn't tolerate people adding to toxicity. That's because you go from one person causing a problem to two or more, which makes it even harder on the people who aren't involved.

BUCKEN FITCHESOct 31, 20151 votes

So lets get this straight. You are formulating opinions of me based off one chat, and that if I respond in a toxic manner to two others when there were 5 who are each cussing at me and saying much worse things, that I truly deserve ten games of not being able to communicate to my teammates because of a situation that happened in one game.

You're wrong. Simple.

ModUlanopoOct 31, 20155 votes

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So lets get this straight. You are formulating opinions of me based off one chat,

Nope, I'm formulating an opinion based on what I saw in the chat AND the fact that you received a punishment. No ban is ever applied for just one game unless that game was incredibly toxic. This leads me to suspect that you exhibited the behavior I saw in the chat in many games, not just one.

and that if I respond in a toxic manner to two others when there were 5 who are each cussing at me and saying much worse things, that I truly deserve ten games of not being able to communicate to my teammates because of a situation that happened in one game.

I will point out that you can still communicate with them, just in a limited fashion.

Look at it this way: you demonstrated to Riot that you sometimes don't use the chat system the way you're supposed to and they turned using the chat system into a resource to help you consciously decide whether that message is worth it.

GetMariahCarriedOct 31, 20154 votes

The toxicity of "ur s***" is a matter of opinion... which is actually a sad fact, because in reality, it's NOT a matter of opinion. That comment, like the words used in it, is s***. Period. Like many of your other comments. Whether you're willing to realize that or not is none of Riot's concern. Whether you continue to pollute chat is. The player lied about you in response. Whatever. He might get banned too. But regardless of what HE said, you earned your tribunal stripes, and I'm not going to waste time here explaining why what he says doesn't matter, like I've done in the past. I'm just going to copy/paste my "banning principles as they are, should be, and will continue to be" synopsis from another thread. You can figure out for yourself which details apply to you. I'll give you a guess, it's somewhere in the middle.

Things that aren't bannable:

Ignoring role calls: The meta is not law. It's just preferable.
Double top: He wants to go top. You want to go top. So do it. You think split exp sucks? Yes, it does. That's strategy. You end up taking another role to save split exp? Fine, you made your best judgment. He made his WHATEVER judgement. No emotions to it. It's rando queue. You get random results. Duh.
Strategic choices you don't agree with: Welcome to the world of people that aren't you. It's out there. It's not that hard to find, it includes EVERYONE. Well, except you of course.
"Auto-locking" (Why is this still a term): It doesn't matter whether you take 1 second to lock, or 10 seconds to lock. It takes the exact same sequence of actions, and therefore is the exact same thing. Whether you feel like passing your champ choice by your team or not is up to you. It's your pick, your choice. If Rito wants to get around to having democratic votes on these things, I'm sure they'll add that feature some day. I wouldn't hold your breath though.
Proxy farming: Someone thinks the wave clear and gold farming will outweigh the disadvantages of repeated deaths as singed? Maybe they're wrong, maybe they're right. Maybe they're stupid. Maybe it doesn't matter because it's their call, not yours. Stop acting shocked at rando tactics. Stop comparing proxy farmers to people who repeatedly walk into the enemy team, stand still, and wait to die while spamming "end the game please".

Things that ARE bannable:

Immediately harassing someone for ignoring role calls: Your allies don't even have to HAVE roles! IT AINT LAW! They can go soraka and jungle/roam/farm botlane for all anyone cares. You think those tactics are unbearable? (I mean, they really do suck...) Then why are you still queueing in randoms? Go get a ranked team together.
Continuing to harass players for not following nonexistent rules after game starts.
Continuing to harass players for harassing you back: "He started it" is something most people grow out of in kindergarden (or so I've been told, but the internet leaves me doubting.)
Using the word "report" and THEN harassing players: NOOOO, that doesn't give an "official air" to follow-up "troll" insults, and therefore it does NOT nullify the toxicity of said "troll" comments.
Basically... harrassing ANYONE EVER: Yes, you thought it was just people you sort of liked. Or people that were nice. But no, you are legitimately not suppose to harass people IN GENERAL.

Extremely obvious things that every League player should understand by default, but many refuse to:

You prefer predictable champ-select outcomes that are agreeable to you? Get a team together of peeps with predictable champ-select behaviors that are agreeable to you.
You have emotions? Great. Use them on something other than people not doing exactly what you want them to do in a videogame. You were already ticked before your allies started replying with things you found offensive. If they started first, fine, report them and ignore them.
Does the negativity bother you? Well... now you know how you come off to other people.
Does anyone expect you to turn off your emotions? No, they expect you to use the mute button. Hold tab, mouse over, click, done. If you're genuinely pissed at people's chat, you get rid of it. No one fans a flame with a diesel-soaked towel while crying "WHAT ELSE AM I SUPPOSE TO DO, IT BURNS!" expecting people to understand what on earth is being said. You responding to offensive chat with offensive chat, that's flame-fanning. It's also flaming. STAHP IT.

Someone add this breakdown to a sticky-thread for all future web-ragers to go through, please. Thank you.

BUCKEN FITCHESOct 31, 20151 votes

I absolutely agree that I was in the wrong, but I am so mad because it was my first offense. I have no other warnings or such. ANd it was such unique situation that you think they would maybe address how to handle the situation better next time. Not just mute someone 10 games without anything else.

SmokedAlmondsOct 31, 20152 votes

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I absolutely agree that I was in the wrong, but I am so mad because it was my first offense. I have no other warnings or such. ANd it was such unique situation that you think they would maybe address how to handle the situation better next time. Not just mute someone 10 games without anything else.

They did, it's in the message you posted in your original post.

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If for whatever reason a game is not going well or another player is being hurtful, remember you should not argue with others or retaliate. Instead, just mute those players; stop talking to them; and report them at the end of the game.

It did come with a slap on the wrist but they still told you. Your reaction to this is what I would expect to see if you had been perma banned.

BUCKEN FITCHESOct 31, 20151 votes

10 games for me is a big deal. I play probably a game every other day or so after my 6 hour work day and night classes trying to get myself through college all by myself. I should not get a slap on the wrist like that. So yes 10 games is a big deal to me.

ModMod CuratorOct 31, 20154 votes

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10 games for me is a big deal. I play probably a game every other day or so after my 6 hour work day and night classes trying to get myself through college all by myself. I should not get a slap on the wrist like that. So yes 10 games is a big deal to me.

You've already been warned once in this discussion. Please refrain from insulting those that are trying to have a discussion with you moving forward. Thanks.

ModPrandineOct 31, 20152 votes

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........ should i even respond or will the next words you type progressively become stupider? I think you will get stupider so I will advise the information you just posted and stop talking to you.

10 games for me is a big deal. I play probably a game every other day or so after my 6 hour work day and night classes trying to get myself through college all by myself. I should not get a slap on the wrist like that. So yes 10 games is a big deal to me.

Okay, first off, if you want to have a reasonable discussion then you need to stop with the name-calling and insults towards those who disagree with you. Second off, we understand that it's a big deal to you, but ultimately it was your poor in-game behavior that got you that punishment in the first place. Again though it's not the end of the world. If you have to scream then scream at the monitor and not at your teammates/enemies. Just work off the chat restriction in a positive manner and I'm sure that you won't get punished for that again. Remember that this is only your first warning, and the majority of people only need one warning/punishment in order to change their behavior for the better. If they can do it then I'm sure that you can do it too.

EDIT: Yes, Riot has been known to escalate cases to higher punishment tiers if they feel it's extreme enough. You should consider yourself lucky and fortunate that they only gave you a warning right here and work hard to prove that they weren't wrong in doing so there.

BUCKEN FITCHESOct 31, 20151 votes

Do you want me to apologize for saying the things you said are stupid? its my personal opinion that the things you said were stupid. I'm not insulting you at all. calling you apiece of shit would be an insult. ((( please note I am not actually calling ua piece of shit, it was just for context))) ((( that was just my disclaimer so I dont get introuble)))But I disagree with your assessment and think what you said was stupid. go ahead be offended if you want. i dont care.

EvilDustManOct 31, 20153 votes

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Do you want me to apologize for saying the things you said are stupid? its my personal opinion that the things you said were stupid. I'm not insulting you at all. calling you apiece of shit would be an insult. ((( please note I am not actually calling ua piece of shit, it was just for context))) ((( that was just my disclaimer so I dont get introuble)))But I disagree with your assessment and think what you said was stupid. go ahead be offended if you want. i dont care.

I don't understand how you don't get that calling someone stupid or their opinion stupid is in insult.

BUCKEN FITCHESOct 31, 20151 votes

I have never received a punishment so when i read this a few hours ago I was pissed. I yelled at some kids on the internet. Im not looking to have a reasonable discussion if my title is "You lost a customer". They lost a customer.

EvilDustManOct 31, 20152 votes

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I have never received a punishment so when i read this a few hours ago I was pissed. I yelled at some kids on the internet. Im not looking to have a reasonable discussion if my title is "You lost a customer". They lost a customer.

I mean, by your attitude here, you don't sound like a very good one.

BUCKEN FITCHESNov 1, 20151 votes

So you are saying i don't SOUND like a good customer? What does that even mean? How does someone begin to understand what you said?

EvilDustManNov 1, 20152 votes

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So you are saying i don't SOUND like a good customer? What does that even mean? How does someone begin to understand what you said?

Well, first they turn 4 and begin kindergarten...

ModPrandineOct 31, 20153 votes

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I have never received a punishment so when i read this a few hours ago I was pissed. I yelled at some kids on the internet. Im not looking to have a reasonable discussion if my title is "You lost a customer". They lost a customer.

Okay then, tell me something then, if you weren't looking to actually have a discussion then:

why did you post the thread and not expect people to chime in to begin with?

AND

Why did you respond to the people that were responding to your thread?

Like it or not this is a public forum and as such you will have people chime in with their different views and beliefs, ones that are usually very different from yours. If you don't like that then either don't respond to them, or at the very least don't respond in a way that makes come off as an uncaring jerk with a "my way or the highway"/"I'm right and everyone else is wrong" type of attitude, or just don't post a thread, it's that simple. Also, like it or not this was your first warning, so there's no point trying to argue about it. If you're really gonna get so bent out of shape because you're mad that Riot caught and punished you for being a jerk that you're gonna leave the game over it and result to harassing and insulting those who are trying to have a reasonable discussion with you then so be it.

SmokedAlmondsOct 31, 20153 votes

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10 games for me is a big deal. I play probably a game every other day or so after my 6 hour work day and night classes trying to get myself through college all by myself. I should not get a slap on the wrist like that. So yes 10 games is a big deal to me.

All the more reason to make sure you don't behave like that in the future.

BUCKEN FITCHESOct 31, 20151 votes

Yes!!!! Exactly!!!!! I wont act like this in the future. And guess what!!!! If I had gotten a warning I wouldnt act like that in the future!!!!!!@!!!!!!!!@$!##$!#]5rqwefnjqwenijfnqwefiuquilweifqibnqlwegopquwbegfuqwbeghqbweghqwe

OMG THANK YOU THATS MY POINT

SmokedAlmondsOct 31, 20152 votes

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Yes!!!! Exactly!!!!! I wont act like this in the future. And guess what!!!! If I had gotten a warning I wouldnt act like that in the future!!!!!!@!!!!!!!!@$!##$!#]5rqwefnjqwenijfnqwefiuquilweifqibnqlwegopquwbegfuqwbeghqbweghqwe

OMG THANK YOU THATS MY POINT

That might be true, for you a warning may have been enough. But like I said before, millions of people play this game. What the minimum action required to change someones behavior is simply not a viable concern. It has to work for most people.

Maybe a warning would have stopped you, maybe not. But if 1000 people get 10 game chat restrictions and 5 of them would have changed after only a warning but the other 995 would have ignored it, is it worth giving those 995 that extra chance? Especially when we are talking about a very minor punishment.

BUCKEN FITCHESOct 31, 20151 votes

I'll respect that. I still think I was treated unfairly. But I guess you are right. Sorry for any verbal abuse I read the email like 3 hours ago and have been yelling at kids on the internet since

GetMariahCarriedOct 31, 20151 votes

I find hating children is not a very zen pastime. It's COMMON (dang is it common in mobas). But it's just not zen.

GetMariahCarriedOct 31, 20152 votes

I guess the bother here is: SmokedAlmonds didn't address your "first offense" concern. Having never received a ban from Riot myself, I cannot say whether or not they provide links in some way or another to additional flagged behavior in the games PLURAL that they refer to. Generally, I've seen ban reports that include multiple games, but I've been told Riot generally displays with their ban alert the "last straw" match only. Can't say where you can find the other matches if they exist.

Although, I bet you, given your response just now to SmokedAlmonds, and some of your other statements in this thread, that whether you think so or not, this match is likely not the only one for which you were reported and then flagged after audit. There are far less toxic ways of saying "you completely ignored what I just said" to SmokedAlmonds. For example, "you completely ignored what I just said". Preeetty simple.

I guess there's also your "no warning" beef. I get "you've been reported" warnings all the time in the League client. Nothing ever comes of them. They're all probably crap "why didn't you gank top more?" reports. If you didn't get those alerts at least, that's surprising.

EDIT: Also, if you're looking for BAN as opposed to REPORT warnings (i.e. "We audited. Our assessment: If you keep this up, we're gonna can your ass. >:P ". I need an Officer Vi emoticon.) I'm not so sure Riot can always wait through a warning before a ban. It's probably in their best interest to nip any possibility of near-future, extreme chat-toxicity in the bud.

Maybe you don't think what you said was that alarming, but believe it or not, plotting these chat histories on a spectrum aint an exact science, and when you have to be conservative, a comment that MAY be calling a person garbage (i.e. "ur s***") has to be put pretty far over on the danger side (along with sexual slurs). Whether you were just referring to skill levels, or showing your disapproval of lies, nobody cares. Riot cares about what you said literally, what it COULD mean in the worst case to some people, what it's intended meaning MIGHT be in the worst case, and what all that, in the worst case, MIGHT entail in the near future.

EvilDustManOct 31, 20152 votes

They face consequences, you just can't see them.

And really, you deserved it, this is pretty rough stuff, but if it's only a 10 game chat restriction, it's not that bad. If the other person was truly so bad, they would have gotten reported and probably got the same.

BUCKEN FITCHESOct 31, 20151 votes

No, I didn't deserve a ten game mute for saying sht and fck a few times. Idiot. I never cuss.

DeynaTaggerungOct 31, 20152 votes

Well it's unfortunate that you lost your cool that game and got a punishment from Riot but at the same time it's pretty mild with just a chat restriction for a few games. Take it for what it is, a warning that you should act like that, no matter what everyone else is saying. If they were being abusive then remember that they're probably going to get what's coming to them as well.

Take for example. I queued up and got in a game with 4 premade. Who spent the entire game ganging up on me, verbally abusing as well as lying to the enemy team about me...well actually just the first half, I said a few things like "well not really" which were pretty bland and then just ignored them. They got bored and moved on and I for the first time ever reported my entire team. In any case my point is that don't give provocative people the satisfaction of rising to their bait, you win so much harder that way.

BUCKEN FITCHESOct 31, 20151 votes

Its not a warning. A warning does not yield punishment. I deserved a warning for my first infraction.

ModUlanopoOct 31, 20153 votes

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I deserved a warning for my first infraction.

Actually, no. That chat was toxic enough for a punishment. Just be glad it was a light one.

BUCKEN FITCHESOct 31, 20151 votes

Ulanopo,

I should be glad? huh. glad that 5 others abused me and I am getting punished? I doubt they got any punishment since noone else would report them besides me. I never called out anyone else who was not being mean to me. I dont deserve this for being mean to others. The idea of me being punished is fundamentally stupid even if it is a rule, and if you disagree It is in my personal opinion that you are stupid.

EvilDustManOct 31, 20152 votes

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Ulanopo,

I should be glad? huh. glad that 5 others abused me and I am getting punished? I doubt they got any punishment since noone else would report them besides me. I never called out anyone else who was not being mean to me. I dont deserve this for being mean to others. The idea of me being punished is fundamentally stupid even if it is a rule, and if you disagree It is in my personal opinion that you are stupid.

Yea, but everyone else gets by without responding to that sort of stuff by just muting. Then you play the game out, report everyone, turn off the game, and go take a deep breath outside.

ModUlanopoOct 31, 20154 votes

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I dont deserve this for being mean to others.

You literally just argued that you should be allowed to be rude. I'm sorry, but that just doesn't fly in the League community.

The idea of me being punished is fundamentally stupid even if it is a rule, and if you disagree It is in my personal opinion that you are stupid.

You're entitled to your opinion and I say that with absolutely no sarcasm. I'm a big believer in personal responsibility. I will point out that that attitude often has consequences, as it's incompatible with how most people feel. They like the report and punishment systems because it reduces the amount of toxicity they have to put up with.

That's my real takeaway from what I saw in your chat: If I had been in that match, I wouldn't have cared if someone else started it. I would have wanted you to stop and focus on the game instead of raging in chat. Make no mistake, I would have reported the other people also.

DeynaTaggerungOct 31, 20153 votes

Well I can't say for sure about your previous games because I wasn't in them but I'm pretty certain there was some things there that contributed to this. Even if you don't cuss and lose your cool, even just making derogatory remarks or responding to other players poor behavior in a harsh way. Things like that are considered reportable and when it culminated in this extreme case game then you got a punishment. And a small one