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Punishment and season rewards

LucarioLZ··1 votes·777 views

I'd like to give my opinion as a user and get any information of whether it's right or wrong what I'm thinking.(Sorry if my English is bad) I just read the requirements for obtaining s7 ranked rewards, and even tho I reached gold in duo and I'm on my way to reach gold in flex, I won't get any reward just because I got banned 2 weeks in September. And yeah, I understand that there must be a punishment, but isn't 2 weeks without playing + no rewards in-game for the time enough? I mean throwing all my time trying to achieve something to waste just because of one single ban 2 weeks later than the limit was... But what most pisses me off is that actualy being toxic doesn't loose games, if i play good does it matter if I flame keeping in mind that everyone can just mute what I say? If someone is annoying you just mute him, that's all. Simple. In my opinion toxic people is punished way too hard, and people that ACTUALY loose games, like afks, trolls,int. feeding people... loose way more games than flamers, and I find it unfair. I'd rather preffer 4 toxic teammates that I can mute at any time that play good and make the game enjoyable than people who don't flame but loose all their lanes and throw the game and waste my time. In conclusion, I'm not saying being toxic should be allowed, but why isn't there an option to mute in-game chat permanently without having to mute 9 people every start of game? If there was this option I'd just click it and play my games well, without anybody annoying other people. Because at all, pings are more than enough to communicate, you don't need a chat. As this game is really competitive and it's imposible not to get frustrated or angry at some point, just ban people without allowing them to chat in game. Why do you deny rewards to people that have played for them just because of some actions that didn't change the game experience of anybody at all. Muting someone is just one click away, and it stops any discomfort, wish I could do the same with all this people that throw my games... Just think about it, if I flame while I've muted everyone, no one would even notice, the game would go on just the same, wouldn't it be the same if they muted me? I'm just really disappointed and frustrated because I've been waiting for this rewards with entusiasm and now I found out it was all a big waste...

5 Comments

Shadowynn1 votes

You already knew from the start of the season that if you got at least a 2 week ban prior to seasons ending that the result would be no rewards YET you still broke the rules.

It's your fault and you got no one else to blame.

Icy Hot Shoto1 votes

I've actually lost quite a few games from just one person being toxic to one other on my team. Either because:

A) Both were typing B) The Jester was typing. C) Squire was just trying to do his job but was distracted/tilted by the Jester who wouldn't shut up. D) The entire game was King, Queen, Knight, and Squire trying to get Jester to stop being rude since it wasn't funny.

So yes, being toxic can lose you games.

If you're being toxic, you don't deserve any good things. Especially if you get punished. If you can't be good 2-3 months before the season ends, how can Riot expect you to be a good little creature/human/attack helicopter/anything you might be, a month before season ends? They can't, so they take away the thing the summoner may really want as a way of saying that hey, you should've been a good creature/human/attack heli/whatever you identify as.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

{quoted}But what most pisses me off is that actualy being toxic doesn't loose games

It's important to remember that, first and foremost, League is a GAME. The point of a game is to have an enjoyable time. The secondary point is to win.

If you are creating a negative experience, that is more important than however much you may be skilled at winning games. Riot tries to match you with opponents of your skill level, so all winning/losing does is adjust who you're up against. Being negative (or intentionally throwing games), however, both destroy the FUN of the game. This is why there is a punishment for toxicity -- you don't get to abuse other players and make them more wary of using chat (or of playing the game) just because you feel they deserve the abuse.

And, yes, Riot comes down HEAVILY on trolls and intentional feeders. Both of those earn an immediate 14-day ban when confirmed, with no warning given. So it's not like they're ignoring those issues.

LucarioLZ1 votes

Okay I agree with you in all things except one. I assume that being toxic creates a negative experience, but being babysitted top and after loosing lane enemy making fun of you by poping emote all the time, or by saying 'ez' or 'get rekt' or just by acting arrogant, that creates a more negative experience(for me at least) than toxic words, and that causes me to loose patience and flame. But however people don't get banned for non-stop popping emote, being arrogant and trying to make me mad on purpose with inappropiate comments, but I get banned just because I responded to that. Shouldn't they get banned for that as well? Because I see this every game, basically it turns out you can still make people have a bad experience and make fun of them and make them mad, just in a more inconspicious way... Thanks for your opinion :)

ModThe Djinn1 votes

{quoted}Okay I agree with you in all things except one. I assume that being toxic creates a negative experience, but being babysitted top and after loosing lane enemy making fun of you by poping emote all the time, or by saying "ez" or "get rek" or just by acting arrogant, that creates a more negative experience(for me at least) than toxic words

And there is a tool you can use to voice your opinion that that behavior isn't permissible, in the form of the report button. Baiting someone, especially with phrases like "ez" and "get rekt" is 100% reportable, and often leads to punishments. You just may not always get an alert that someone was punished, since to get that you have to be the LAST report before the punishment.

Unfortunately, while I understand you may not personally agree, the punishment system will always have to make compromises. As such, it's designed so that the community can, rather democratically, decide what it as a whole considers very toxic and what it as a whole considers less toxic. The behavior you've described is definitely considered toxic, but has a bit more wiggle room than certain offensive phrases and expressions, because the community as a whole tends to GIVE it more wiggle room than those phrases and expressions.

So yes, if they keep that behavior up they will definitely end up punished. It's not acceptable, but it's also not entirely a ban-on-sight sort of deal.

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