this game is unplayable solo in the current state.

Manaka Mukaido·9/20/2018, 11:46:35 AM·2 votes·1,601 views

the current report and honor system is completely broken. playing solo is a direct dissadvantage and if you get into an argument with someone at any point you will get insta banned because thats how the current report system works. The only way to climb in honor points in this game is to go premade with people. Getting into an argument with a premade one time will get you 14 day banned. Premades can take your lane, your role, ect without getting consequences.

The honor system right now is only making the game more toxic by giving people that play together a free pass to be a dick while others need to do everything they want or face a ban.

how can it be that when i get into a fight with one toxic teemo after literally being the nicest person ever for multiple games getting honor after honor i get a 14 day ban and he runs free because he just happened to be premade with a player and it's a 3v3?

YES i'm really toxic that game this guy is calling me retarded and i'm calling him the same yet he doesnt get a ban and i do?

great job at making the game less toxic riot.

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Umbral Regent9/20/2018, 12:06:28 PM8 votes

playing solo is a direct dissadvantage and if you get into an argument with someone at any point you will get insta banned because thats how the current report system works.

No, that's not how the system works. For one, you have to get into a detrimental argument to result in reports being validated, and for two, if your account has no prior punishment history, you'd have to use hate speech or encouragements of self-harm to get jumped to one of the suspension stages - and even then, that would only net you a 14-day ban. unless the offense was especially egregious.

Even still; the in-game chat is meant primarily for strategy and light-hearted communication, not arguing. If you spend the majority of the game in-fighting and bickering over something, then you're breaking the rules. You could just as easily agree to disagree and keep playing the game, or mute the person you would otherwise argue with, but pursuing that argument overmuch can validate a report.

And, here's how the report system works.

Player gets a report > IFS reviews the match > If the IFS finds punishable/negative behavior that is in-line with the report, issue a penalty (whether that's a punishment tier or just hampering honor gains).

If you're consistently negative and have had enough valid reports made against you, you get pushed up a punishment tier. Punishment tiers go: 10-game Chat Restriction, 25-game Chat Restriction, 14-day ban, permaban.

You can't get to a 14-day ban without either A. Having previously suffered a 25-game chat restriction and ignored the warning, B. Used zero-tolerance chat such as hate speech or encouragements of self-harm, or C. Trolled/intentionally fed a match.

The only way to climb in honor points in this game is to go premade with people.

No. Even in the Honor FAQ, they straight up say that Honor-trading with Premades doesn't work.

Can I game the system and boost to level 5 by constantly playing with a premade and honoring each other every game?

Nice idea. We had it too. So we specifically built Honor so potential exploits like this give you (and your friend) literally no benefit.

The only way to climb in Honor points is to be honorable.

Getting into an argument with a premade one time will get you 14 day banned.

No, it won't. Again, read my points above - namely, that the argument has to be detrimental and that the punishment tiers follow a ladder, and you can't just reach a 14-day ban immediately by just arguing. You had to have had a 25-game chat restriction before then.

Also, since I know the next part implied by this argument; No, premade reports do not weigh any more than a single report.

The IFS only checks if the amount of reports for a given match is greater than a value of 0 - if even one person reports you, the IFS reviews the match. The number of reports does not matter - the value only needs to be greater than 0. The reports only trigger a review, and do not in any way influence the review process.

Premades can take your lane, your role, ect without getting consequences.

That is also wrong. In Draft pick modes, it is a punishable offense to ignore your given role and steal other people's roles. If you report someone for it (under the options Negative Attitude and Intentionally Feeding), detailing that they stole someone's position in a match without consent or communication, they can and will suffer harsh penalties.

The honor system right now is only making the game more toxic by giving people that play together a free pass to be a dick while others need to do everything they want or face a ban.

This is a pretty major misconception that I've already shot down. The only way someone could get a free pass to be a dick is if you give them that free pass. If you report them, they'll get punished. If you don't, it's on you.

YES i'm really toxic that game this guy is calling me retarded and i'm calling him the same yet he doesnt get a ban and i do?

THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM.

You used hate speech, and that is not in any way, shape, or form welcome in League of Legends. If someone's being toxic to you, you mute them, report them, and move on, not stoop to their level.

You don't know whether or not they got a ban, but if you reported them for hate speech, then they almost certainly would have. But, from what I can glean so far - and I mean no offense to you - you may not understand the system well enough to know what types of offenses do what - and I can assume that you only reported them for verbal abuse instead of hate speech.

Rather than act like the system is busted, actually take a moment to look at what resulted in your punishment, and understand why Riot doesn't want you saying it. Hate speech, point-blank, is not welcome in League.

iBubbles9/20/2018, 2:41:59 PM3 votes

Premade or not has nothing to do with bans. it doesn't matter how many people report you. If you did something wrong it only takes one.

Baka Red9/20/2018, 11:53:41 AM1 votes

Playing solo can be achieved quite easily; have self control and don't get into arguments: mute & report is a guideline that helps here a lot. I play premade with a friend of mine and we practically never honor each (only time we honor each other is when there is absolutely nobody else who didn't troll in the team). He is honor 5, I am at last checkpoint of honor 4. So your claim "The only way to climb in honor points in this game is to go premade with people." is false.

Premade have less power in IFS (report system) than non-premade, since 9 reports are as strong as one. Ie: The solo players can report the premade more effectively. Premades taking your role... I cannot comment on that, since I only play ARAM and we don't have roles there.

Your claim that honor system gives premade people a 'free ticket to be a dick' is false for the above mentioned reasons. If you meet toxic premade, mute & report works in your favor again.

The Teemo example; you are most likely referring an argument with a "fight" with him. Do not get into arguments. Mute & Report.

Tl;dr: Mute & Report allows you to play solo just fine. And the OP has misconceptions about the IFS and honor systems.

Chermorg9/20/2018, 12:56:20 PM1 votes

Virtually everything you say is wrong.