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I GOT VERBALLY ABUSED BY A PLAYER IN THE FIRST PLACE AND NOW I GOT A 14-DAY BAN???!!!!!!!!!

ShamonOwHeeHee··1 votes·714 views

Will never play your game again Riot!

At about 10 minutes into the game, after I made a small mistake while roaming and died, a bot lane Varus called me trashcan before I typed any word or even made any signals, and his mate Braum(sup) immediately took his side by agreeing with his toxic comment. But actually I didnt talk back or said anything until like 10 mins later when I went Godlike and started to carry the game. I didn't like the fact that somebody could call me trashcan and got away with it, so I started to flame them back at that moment. And then they got mad, trashtalked me back and stated to report me like I was the guy who flamed them first. I didn't bother to report anybody after game but congratulations to those toxic faultfinders that I wound up get a 14 day ban.

Now I get it, your game allows toxic players to insult gamers who've been minding thier own business, and back those bullies up with your justified judgement.

Now right after that game, my account was told of getting a ban of 14 days and Riot forced me to click "I understand" even though they dont even understand how unfair and stupid they are at managing their own game. It's funny how sombody could call a teammate trashcan and then happily got away with it. Thank you Riot. Even though I loved to play with a lot of friendly gamers who would unconditionally encourage thier mates to play a good game with one another, your game is now seriously fucked up by a lot of those trashtalking faultfinders and I'm gladly quitting this shithouse. Rioters suck and your game sucks! This game's really fucked up!

Peace out.

23 Comments

Totally Not Jinx8 votes

You flamed them back. At the end of the day, and without any other context, it's rather safe to assume that this isn't the first time you've done something like this. If it is, the severity of the backtalk was enough to warrant an escalated penalty.

That being said, the onus is on you to report problematic behaviour. The fact that you didn't is part of the reason they 'got away with it.' Or at least, for now they may have.

Bans are given based on the player's behaviour in question, regardless of who started it. You openly admit to bullying them back, so that in and of itself is justification for some form of penalty.

Zombiemaster8 votes

I didn't like the fact that somebody could call me trashcan and got away with it, so I started to flame them back at that moment

And that is why you were punished. Flaming back at another player is never acceptable, even if they started flaming you first. The whole "they started it" doesn't work here. The fact that this was a 14 day ban means that either you have had previous chat restriction punishments or your flaming back involved some zero-tolerance phrases such as hate speech or encouragement of self-harm, which would cause you to skip the chat restriction punishments.

As for them getting away with it, that's pretty much on you. I don't know why you didn't bother reporting the player who was flaming you, but the punishment system operates based on our reports. It will only review a player's behavior if at least 1 person in that game reports them. If no one reports a player, then the system assumes that no one had any problem with that player's behavior, thus not reviewing or punishing that player. Since you didn't report them, the system will not review their behavior, allowing them to avoid potential punishment for that game.

Xidphel7 votes

I didn't bother to report anybody after game

Wait... You didn't bother reporting them?

DUDE! IF YOU HAD, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN BANNED AS WELL!

Xidphel3 votes

Well, yeah. You retaliate through multiple games, you risk punishment.

Zane Zephyr3 votes

You flame, you lose, period.

d4rkshock3 votes

Logs? Retaliation fucks you

Arammus3 votes

"in the first place" well theres your problem. doesnt matter who starts

Schàdenfreude2 votes

I mean you can't play the game again anyways if you get perma banned after :^)

blaze master22 votes

preach

OrigMorjumba1 votes

Riot doesn't care, if you say the meaner thing you are screwed. IMO you should be able to say whatever you want. Anyone truly harmed from something someone says on this game shouldn't be on a computer period.

redniwediS5 votes

I can make the same argument about how anyone willing to act like a five year old who was told no in the candy isle should not be on a computer, period.

We should be able to say whatever we want, but some people let their emotions control them and act like children in what should be a competitive setting, so Riot has to crack down. Maybe one day we'll get that privilege back when these people either all get banned or grow up, but I'm not holding my breath.

OrigMorjumba1 votes

Lol it's never gonna happen.

redniwediS2 votes

I know, but I can still hope.

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

Apparently hashtag bolds it. Sidewinder'sDream2018 ?

redniwediS1 votes

2017 betrayed me, same with 2016, and 2015, and 2014, but 2018 is a bright new horizon!

I won't bad mouth 2013-2011, those were good years.

Zombiemaster1 votes

Actually, it's not about who "says the meaner thing." Anyone who contributes to the negativity in a game is at risk for a punishment, regardless of who was worse or who started it.

Also, it's not really about being harmed by something some stranger says. It's about getting rid of annoying players who are purposefully ruining the game for me and everyone else in it.

Take for example two people get in a shouting match with each other in a movie theater. They aren't directing anything towards anyone else other than each other, so it's not like anyone else is being "harmed" by what they are saying. However, I still want them to be removed because they are annoying and distracting and purposefully ruining the movie experience for everyone else in the theater.

OrigMorjumba1 votes

Except you cant mute people in a movie theater. Someone could say "LOL" every time you die and you could report them 1000 times for that and nothing will ever happen. But you could say ONE "over the line" thing in a game and its 2 weeks for you buddy. Sorry, it's how it is.

Zombiemaster3 votes

You're right that you can't mute someone in a movie theater. However, even though you can in League, the mute button is still not an excuse to be able to flame and harass other players. If someone is forced to mute you, then the damage has already been done. They have every right to report you so that hopefully future players won't have to go through the trouble of muting you. Instead they could get a different teammate who they can properly communicate with.

Also, if by "over the line" you mean zero tolerance behavior like hate speech/encouraging self harm, then yes, just one thing could very well get you a 2 week ban. That kind of behavior is completely unacceptable and has absolutely no place in League. However, less severe behavior generally requires more of a pattern before even a chat restriction is given.

OrigMorjumba1 votes

No lol you can troll people all you want in this game and not get any restrictions/punishment/honor loss. You just cant be blunt about it, you can spam your mastery over their dead body or like I said before type LUL or something stupid every time someone dies or just write little tilting things at specific moments and you'll be fine. What I'm saying is there is a line you can walk in this game and a lot of people do it. Like people who are actually WINNING a game, and still talk smack in all chat to the other team. As long as they don't cross that line nothing will happen to them.

Zombiemaster1 votes

Well, I was really only talking about chat behavior, not gameplay toxicity like trolling. When it comes to trolls, though, they do indeed get punished. Unfortunately, a large portion of trolls do go by unpunished, and I do wish Riot would improve on this..

However, the war against trolls is an incredibly difficult one. Unfortunately, Riot can't do a manual review on every trolling report that's made, several of which are going to be false reports, as there simply isn't enough manpower to do so. I'm pretty sure Riot does some manual reviews here and there, but because they can't do this for every report, they need to largely rely on an automated system. Now, it's incredibly difficult to design an automated system that can catch and punish trolls quickly and effectively while also avoiding as many false positives as possible, and avoiding false positives is a huge goal for Riot when designing such a system. This is largely why the system isn't nearly as effective as we would want it to be and why so many trolls go unpunished for so long.

As far as this "line" that you can walk, well of course there is. There are actual forms of competitive banter that Riot deems acceptable. Saying small things when you outplay someone or simply when someone dies can certainly be acceptable. Obviously it would still depend on what you say, but stuff like "LUL XD" "gotcha," or "nice try" IMO is acceptable. So long as these people don't cross the line into actual harassment or complete and utter disrespect or contempt for the other players, I don't see a reason to punish them.

Master Noct1 votes

This is why I deeply enjoy the "Nothing ever happens if you report" scenario.

People are dicks, they get reported, then come here or on Reddit to complain about their ban for talking back to someone, without reporting them too, and that person goes scot-free.

Just damn report, and move on, don't put yourself in the position to be reported back at for being unnecessarily toxic.

Levantern1 votes

“Peace out”

Comes back after 14 days EX DE

TheProfezzor1 votes

Bye dide

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