Do I deserve my permanent ban?

plaidbeaver·9/1/2016, 11:04:11 PM·21 votes·4,147 views

So I got 2 week suspended a few weeks ago, and I came back ready to reform and focus on winning my games. I played two games with absolutely no issues and had a great time. My third game was a little bit different.

In my third game, the toxicity of my teammates started at champion select. I was forced to play my secondary role choice by my mid laner who insisted that I was better than him at jungle and needed to jungle. Although I am a jungle main, I have not been playing much jungle recently and I wanted to play mid. He locked in Kog mid and refused to go to his role, so I decided to fill as Sejuani. We ended up with a team composition of four late game picks and I would come to find out this was a big mistake. The enemy chose four early game picks across all lanes.

Upon getting into game, I was spam pinged by my top lane Wukong to gank before I even finished my second camp. I told him to scale and ping for teamfights. He nearly died 1v1 moments later. Shortly after that, my bottom lane Blitzcrank began to spam ping me for ganks. He and Vayne were getting crushed and they quickly gave first blood in a 2v2 duel. I made sure to tell them to stay back and avoid getting Lee fed, because Lee's primary objective is to snowball lanes. Support Blitz continued to spam ping me. Mid Kog then lost a duel and said he "shoulda jg afterall." Here I am, a level 5 Sejuani being pulled every which way by tilted players that have no mental fortitude. Vayne made sure to let me know I was muted after I again told her to play back and scale. By the end of the game, a few of my teammates were asking the enemy to report me, calling me toxic, and insulting me. After the game, all four of my teammates hung around for a minute so I likely got reported by all four of them.

Now looking into why I was actually banned. I told Blitzcrank that building sheen in a losing game was retarded. I blamed Blitzcrank for the loss. I said we can ff after my teammates had tilted and given up on their lanes. I again said we can ff, after multiple players were spam pinging me instead of focusing.

Maybe I should get out of chat in the future. But I do not think a permanent ban for this is fair. After all of the harassment and negativity I got from my teammates despite trying to set a game plan and reassure them that everything was okay, I could not sit there for another 10 minutes without defending myself. At the same time, I could not sit there and focus on winning the game when my teammates had already given up and turned to insulting me in chat. I could not AFK, I could not leave. I chose to defend myself while trying my best not to insult them, and I was still banned.

Here are the complete chat logs from the client, "that fellow players found grossly offensive:"

Game 1 plaidbeaver: we scale ggg plaidbeaver: play for teamfight onyl plaidbeaver: no fights pls plaidbeaver: just scale plaidbeaver: care lee plaidbeaver: stay back all plaidbeaver: no reason to let lee get fed like he always do plaidbeaver: we pick champps to scale, no reason to try to get ahead plaidbeaver: pls stop forcing plaidbeaver: focus on scale plaidbeaver: we might as well ff plaidbeaver: since everyone pick late champs plaidbeaver: and gonna spam ping plaidbeaver: everyone focus on yourselves and play to scale plaidbeaver: pls do not tilt me. plaidbeaver: tilts me to no end to see ppl pick late champs and whine about getting raped early plaidbeaver: lee fed means nothing xd plaidbeaver: keep drag ward pls plaidbeaver: lee going full early plaidbeaver: he one shot vayne plaidbeaver: kk we can ff now plaidbeaver: you have no patience plaidbeaver: you spam ping me plaidbeaver: and ruin my focus plaidbeaver: you had a free win if youb scaled plaidbeaver: everyone pick scaling champ plaidbeaver: and then spam ping to force ganks plaidbeaver: for what? plaidbeaver: is there a reason you are trying so hard to win this early? plaidbeaver: any reason why you would pick losing lanes and try to snowball? plaidbeaver: we cannot fight plaidbeaver: just fyi plaidbeaver: we cannot win plaidbeaver: with how tilted i am plaidbeaver: we can ff now plaidbeaver: sheen blitz plaidbeaver: in a losing game plaidbeaver: just retard plaidbeaver: we cannot win plaidbeaver: im telling you plaidbeaver: they are snowballed plaidbeaver: Please dont listen to these people telling you im toxic. ive been enduring spam ping all game by blitz plaidbeaver: and toxic by vayne plaidbeaver: And minor negativity by kog plaidbeaver: I cannot even begin to imagine the kind of messed up person that would pick a late game champ and expect to snowball with it. plaidbeaver: still forcing fights? plaidbeaver: it will never work plaidbeaver: you need to run blitz plaidbeaver: blitz you do realize you are the sole cause of our loss right plaidbeaver: you cannot play blitz aggro with this late game comp plaidbeaver: i understand youre only plat plaidbeaver: but you really need to think plaidbeaver: change your p[laystyle or never climb plaidbeaver: if you want to win blitz plaidbeaver: use hook to peel plaidbeaver: me and wu have to land a 5 man ult to win fight. plaidbeaver: still playing aggro plaidbeaver: gg wp everyone! plaidbeaver: unfortunate ppl choose to babyrage and tilt instead of focusing on winning plaidbeaver: Im diamond 1. plaidbeaver: Who are you again? plaidbeaver: didnt say anything toxic. plaidbeaver: sad teammates.

118 Comments

IndianHippie9/1/2016, 11:34:54 PM15 votes

Unban this guy. Also remember asking other to report others is a banable offence.

LXII9/2/2016, 2:59:20 AM12 votes

How did you even manage to play the game while typing that novel?

Seriously though, when you JUST got back from a ban you decided to go to town on the chat feature. Never a good plan. Just don't talk to people unless it's purely strategy related. And I don't mean critiquing strategy, I mean strategy.

"Blitz, since you have a sheen anyway let's try to put that damage to good use and get a pick on that lone Ez in bot lane" Instead of; "Well you shouldn't have built sheen, that was stupid"

I'm not saying I think Perm bans for being a slight dick are something I support, but whether or not I support it is irrelevant. You knew they would ban you for talking smack, so just don't.

DrCyanide9/1/2016, 11:35:40 PM11 votes

Your problem is that you were on your final chance and you decided to call a teammate retarded. I mean, you knew what was coming, you had to be on your absolute best behavior for a few months, and you could barely keep it together a few games.

If you make a new account, use the Mute button when things look like they're going south and try to just let other's builds/actions/whatever roll off your back.

Coyote X Starrk9/1/2016, 11:46:33 PM7 votes

Yes you deserved it.

Sarutobi9/2/2016, 6:27:42 AM6 votes

If this was a first offense it wouldnt be permaban worthy. But seeing how you just got off a 2 week ban, you are basically showing the system that you didnt learn anything from your past punishments. These chat logs show not only that, but you are breaking the rules. Does this chatlog show it? of course! You were belittling your teammates, using derogatories terms to harass another person. While you might not think that you did, the chatlogs show as such. If you didnt want to come off that way then use a different term/word. This is why we have a dictionary!

The fact of the matter is you didnt learn from your punishment. Was this chatlog punishment worthy? Yes, its sad that because you just got off your 2 week ban the next tier is a permanent ban!

Nami in Bush9/2/2016, 5:11:18 AM5 votes

plaidbeaver: we cannot fight plaidbeaver: just fyi plaidbeaver: we cannot win plaidbeaver: with how tilted i am plaidbeaver: we can ff now plaidbeaver: sheen blitz plaidbeaver: in a losing game plaidbeaver: just retard plaidbeaver:** we cannot win** plaidbeaver: im telling you plaidbeaver: they are snowballed

You're one of those kids

Sythriel Draken9/2/2016, 12:41:46 AM5 votes

I don't think you deserve the perma ban.. It's RETARDED that riot will allow toxicity to continue and not punish the players causing the toxicity, but the moment you didn't say anything really toxic (sheen blitz in a losing lane is totally retarded) and no curse words were said.

riot needs to take a long look at their 4 strike policy as this is one of the times where an innocent player gets banned because other people, who probably was using hate speech as well, doesn't get punished.

DREADN0UGHT9/2/2016, 12:44:33 AM5 votes

You are fucking annoying and I would have muted you in an instant but i dont think that was perm worthy

Fuq the Meta9/3/2016, 5:57:09 AM4 votes

This is a game where the entire team can cuss you out, feed their lanes, then afk. But if you tell them to "play safe", may jesus help your soul, because you are getting banned for toxicity. LEAUGE IS COOL! AND FAIR!

JakiStow9/2/2016, 10:04:26 AM4 votes

Seeing this chat log, you deserve your ban 100%.

Not only are you overly negative, but you talk waaaaaaay too much, how can you even play properly ?

No flash no life9/2/2016, 2:48:28 AM4 votes

defending yourself =/= fighting back (verbally).

However, I find it very hard to believe that chat log would induce any consequence. The R word may be in the grey area, but that shouldn't suffice for any action taken, even if I consider the teeny bit of passive aggression shown. While I do not necessarily agree with your mentality, I do not find your action worth punishing, and am quite surprised by it.

I would suggest filing in support ticket, but deep down I doubt you'll get anything out of it except the exact same game log with a "we're certain the action taken was not a mistake and will not revert it" response.

Dukues9/2/2016, 1:01:56 PM3 votes

meh your problem is you type too much. You already were suspended for two weeks so I am sure there was a lot of toxic behavior in the past. I don't think the game posted was too toxic, but from reading the boards it sounds like the last thing you should be doing after a two week ban is participating in team chat especially when the team is being toxic.

I main jungle so I know the pain. I usually just mute whoever the most annoying player is and play the game out. Sometimes I say things but I have not had chat restrictions or any sort of ban ever so I know I can say things once in awhile. But in the end it doesn't help. Sadly a lot of players don't understand the concept of scaling or playing from behind.

Loner Nerd9/3/2016, 4:20:14 AM3 votes

No you do not deserve it. But at the same time a random person doesn't want to hear what you have to say. It is just the way the game is designed. Suppose to be a teamwork game but very anti-social its an online video game. Do not take it to serious.

OneMustFall9/2/2016, 11:18:58 PM2 votes

Fact is you were toxic and have already been punished multiple times. If you get a 2 week ban on an account, when you get off it you need to just keep it zipped. "GLHF", "GG", pings, "Summs down on X" is about the limit. Otherwise you're just playing with fire. I would have gone "Mute all" for like a month before even bothering with chat again tbh.

Vlädïmïr9/3/2016, 6:17:21 AM2 votes

Good luck. I don't believe its deserved.

All of the people saying you deserve the ban for this game are just trying to sit on a high-horse.

They've all been more toxic in less extreme circumstances. I'd bet money on it.