Simple Question
Would you rather have a 0/10 jungle whos optimistic? or Would you rather have a 10/0 jungle whos toxic?
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Oh joy, this pointless hypothetical again.
You're not making nearly as compelling a point as you think you're making.
0/10 Optimistic guy all the way. Because the optimistic guy will always do his best to win, while the toxic guy will hurt the teams ability to work together.
The optimistic guy will hopefully listen to calls and work with the team. The toxic guy will call everyone trash and rage split or try to rambo because he's the "best" player.
If someone has better mechanical or macro skill than a certain ranking but has been stuck there for a long time, then they are the reason they're there, and if they're toxic the logical extrapolation is that their toxicity is why they're stuck.
The thing is that MMR is used to create matches.
If someone is better, they will win more games and get ranked higher, placing them against better opponents.
If someone is worse, they will lose more games and get ranked lower, placing them against worse opponents.
If you're seeing that toxic players have more mechanical skill than others at a given MMR, that is likely because some other aspect of their play is reducing their average contribution to any given team's chances of winning. Perhaps their toxicity is eroding team cohesion.
But no matter what form their reduced chances of winning come from, you're left with people at the same MMR contributing the same towards any given team's chances of winning.
So, you can either have someone contributing on average 78 imaginary contribution units that includes toxicity or someone who contributes on average 78 imaginary contribution units who is optimistic.
Knowing how to let yourself be carried is an important skill, and does help your team win games.
You can say im toxic in game but i rather say it REalistic as if you are doing batshit crazy stupid things durring the game that ends you a lets say 0 8 3 adc at the 10 min mark and tiltping me for ganking you IM TELLING YOU TO FUK OFF. Is that toxic behavior? yes do i still tryng to win even tho im crying like a 5 year old newborn puppy? FUK YES how else would i make you know how terrible fuking i feel to win a game from the behing of a fking elephant where as i could just steamroll the enemy down if my adc/top/mid would have been decent enough to stop dying after 5 death.
ITS ALL ABOUT MAKING THE THRAASH PLAYER REALISE HOW TRASH HE IS.
Idc if you say we have lategame the enemy adc is 10 2 AS VAYNE. and thats not even my problem shes easy to kill. But the enemy pyke is fed too.............. Not talking about i cant fking contest anything whit 2 feeder on myside and OFC OFC they are pulling the blame game and the is the junglers fault and the support and my mothers fault hes 0 10.
ALSO there is no 0 10 guy being optimiscit ITS A MYTH 0 10 optimistic guy doesnt exist. There is the 0 10 fk you jungler why wont you win my lane for me typooooo There is the 0 10 How do i autoattack in this game? typooooooo but there is no 0 10 optimistic guy YOU KNow what that guy feels NOTHIGN AT ALL or he feels like shit(im the latest btw)
So im taking the 10 0 cuz if anything else he isnt 0 10 and that already raises my chances to win no matter what he does(expect if he afk).
Anybody who plays the game seriously/competitively/ranked will take the "toxic" 10/0 jungler. Its a silly question because going 0/10 is also toxic. I find it hilarious how this board always downvotes and refuses to answer this kind of question.
Yet The MMR is downright awful. Say you are age 35+ and you got this toxic 1-20 adc complaining about your being too passive. Clearly if My adc is walking or engaging into 1 vs3 why go in? If being passive and smart at the same time, but still garbage kids on my team why doesn't the MMR fluctuate to our actual skill and k/d ratio?
My main account is lv56 3.66 K/d ratio close to 400 games played in 8days
Luxxbunny is pretty much lv180 2.58 k/d ratio, just over 800GP in 17days she's 27 so I expect her to be good.
If I do my calculations on this matter we can clearly tell she's playing alongside other people with mics on. Clearly we know she's a streamer, but on average how many games does she played daily is mind-boggling with other people with mics?
She has fully admitted to **not caring **for custom_(custom games don't count towards k/d_) or normal games, so if she was to go in solo not Duo with a G1 her k/d ratio would drastically decrease.