Having a punishment that isn't so severe

Burnin Puddin··1 votes·401 views

Hello,

I am here to discuss the dramatic punishment for a first-time offense. I was recently put under chat restriction due to a report for being toxic, sure there were some things that I should not have said, but in my toxicity report, there were things that were listed where I was saying please and not being toxic at all. I lost all of my honor was punished and also am not able to redeem myself until someone decides that I have reformed. This all happened to me a month before the season ends and a couple of days later the pbe opens up. I had to put at least a month of my life into this game just to get to honor level 5 all to lose it the first time I ever had to be reprimanded and punished. I understand that there is a reason the punishments are the way that they are, however, I would feel far less betrayed if I didn't lose everything without a chance at redemption. Could there a system in place for summoners who do so well for long periods of time that get a warning showing their toxic behavior and to tell them to cool their jets or they will be punished for it, then on a second offense loose 1 honor level at a time. Now time from my life has been taken away for something that was not severe.

20 Comments

EvilDustMan2 votes

Chat logs.

Burnin Puddin1 votes

?

ModPeriscope2 votes

On the bright side, you'll still be eligible for end of season rewards, but it's unlikely you'll receive honor related rewards. Unlikely, but I don't know if it's impossible.

If you have questions about why you were punished, you can share your chat logs and we can weigh in on them.

Burnin Puddin1 votes

I know that there were some things that I said that were out of control such as the f-bomb once or twice, but it feels so rough to get everything taken away for my very first offense I have been playing since 2012.

ModThe Djinn2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Burnin Puddin,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EZ9zGze3,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-14T00:53:04.901+0000)

I know that there were some things that I said that were out of control such as the f-bomb once or twice, but it feels so rough to get everything taken away for my very first offense I have been playing since 2012.

The word "fuck" isn't problematic unless used in a toxic manner. You can curse all you want as long as it's not hate speech, but the line is drawn at using language (of any kind) to harass, insult, belittle, or abuse another player.

If you have your chat logs and can post them here, we can help you figure out what might have been an issue. :)

Burnin Puddin1 votes

I mean I just can't get behind losing out on everything over a couple of somewhat toxic games. I have talked to riot support and we have came to an agreement and an understanding on what was toxic, even though it was not severe it was worthy of a ban due to me telling them f you and saying things like your feeding too. I just cannot get behind the fact that I lost everything over my very first in-game penalty. I think it should be a way less severe punishment for the first time or very long times between punishment we all lose our cool sometimes.

Magical Player2 votes

You made the choice, these are the results This comment is unneeded

Burnin Puddin1 votes

this entire thread is behind less drastic punishment for people who never are toixc, but sometimes end up in situations that they are toxic. I do not come to your boards making your ideas less of an issue. You should respect the same of me. This thread is simply outlining my experience and why I feel as though this is an option that should be looked into. There is no harm in that what so ever, I am not demanding that Riot change the system just offering my input into an alternative way of handling things since we are putting a large amount of our time and lives into this game. My comment is simply an interaction between me and the previous commenter on the discussion above. If anything is unneeded it is your foul attitude. You listed no other reason for why it should not be a thing other than making a choice, and if you believe that every wrong decision should be punished to such an extreme that is your opinion, however, not mine.

Magical Player2 votes

People who are never toxic don't deserve special treatment..... Everyone is the same in the game as far as the system cares.

You're right my only thought is that you made a choice and that choice ended up resulting in some outcome you are unhappy with. At the end of the day Nobody forced you to make that choice, you decided it was the "best course of action" and now are saying that because you are unhappy with the result (losing the rewards) you regret the choice.

Great you now understand how punishment works

You're right there is no harm in stating you're opinion but why do you feel so attacked by mine?

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction :D

Burnin Puddin1 votes

I feel attacked when you act like it is irrelevant. I am not saying that there shouldn't be punished simply that I think that there should be a less extreme punishment. This is simply how I believe that you should only lose 1 honor level at a time not all 5 in one go, especially if you are not getting punished over and over again. The support agent told me that he understood my point and to come here to tell everyone my idea, I am unhappy with how it was handled but I am not saying that you shouldn't be punished simply another step before ALL of the honor you worked for MONTHS to get, its not like a think you can earn back in a couple of days to be completely stripped of from one mistake. Therefore, I came to bords to express my idea to see if I had likeminded peers, however being simply negative and saying that I just do not want to be punished is absurd, I have accepted this only offering a thought into the grand mix of things.

Magical Player2 votes

You're saying you don't feel the punishment was right for the crime committed....... I am giving you my thoughts on your thoughts

The punishment seems to have worked, you regret making the mistake and are now less likely to make the mistake again. Isn't that the goal of the punishment?

Burnin Puddin1 votes

So it is a fitting punishment to chop off someone's hand because they were speeding? They certainly regret speeding but do you believe that it is proportional to the crime committed?

Magical Player1 votes

I think a more apt analogy is you were caught speeding going 15 over in a 55, now he could arrest you can send you to jail and get your license revoked or just give you a ticket ruining your day. He decides to give you a ticket for going 10 over you think he could of been more lenient and think the punishment is absurd as you think you were going 5 over.

Burnin Puddin1 votes

This is how you may see it but it is not how I see it. I respect your opinion, however, I believe it is like getting locked up for a day vs. months, over a simple altercation.

Magical Player1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Burnin Puddin,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EZ9zGze3,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-14T03:33:55.352+0000)

This is how you may see it but it is not how I see it. I respect your opinion, however, I believe it is like getting locked up for a day vs. months, over a simple altercation.

You just compared it to getting your hand chopped off I guess I could see the 2nd one more realistic.

What was the altercation? a drug bust? or a speeding ticket of 1 over?

Reket DeAlk1 votes

Wait, you only got a chat restriction right? The lowest punishment you can get?

And you need something less severe then that?

Burnin Puddin1 votes

When it comes to losing every drop of honor that it legit takes an unknown amount of time to achieve and it takes months to achieve yes I feel it is extreme to take it in a matter of a minimum and lowest form of punishment.

Reket DeAlk1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Burnin Puddin,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EZ9zGze3,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-10-14T03:31:00.347+0000)

When it comes to losing every drop of honor that it legit takes an unknown amount of time to achieve and it takes months to achieve yes I feel it is extreme to take it in a matter of a minimum and lowest form of punishment.

It's a punishment. You don't get to keep Honor (That stuff you earn for following the rules) when you break the rules.

They made it clear when they announced the Honor overhaul. You screw up, you lose your honor.

Burnin Puddin1 votes

I get every right to make a board that says maybe it is time to reassess this is some manner. I am well within my right as a player to do so. It is fair to say that it could be reassessed. There are amendments to the constitution it is not silly to think that they could amend their idea of player reform

Magical Player1 votes

As they have done many times and ask you to update yourself every time they make a change with the little check box saying you acknowledge the rules.

I'm not sure where the "my right as a player" comes in I've not tried to stop you from posting I'm providing my insight to the issue you are impassioned about The punishment worked, you shouldn't have to worry about losing your honors again since now you know

More from Player Behavior