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So I got permanately banned. Very undeserving I feel.

PurgeWithSilver··2 votes·825 views
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I want everyone to take a look at the chat there. I had a 4 game winstreak as a support I had no problems with anyone in those 4 games. Then on that specific game my lane got crapped on by enemy tristana/leona. I felt it wasnt worth to stay in the lane mainly because tristana was way to fed so I left lane to place a control ward at the top lane. Nasus got angry and started saying he'll report me. Mind everyone I didnt die at top while placing a control ward. Jarvin 4 also started saying I agree im gonna report you also. This guy literally had twice the deaths then I do and he kept inting which lead me to believe j4 and my top are duo. Of course I wish you guys could see what they were saying to me and they did not care about what I had to say about how much better tristana is as a champion to sivir anyways I got really tired of the bashing and said I would intentionally feed his lane since he kept bashing me. I did not do that btw. While he was bashing on me all 5 of enemy team came top and killed him so he said im definately going to get this janna banned. Of course I really felt upset because my account is already dishonorable from a previous report where I had a flex team report me because of a champion I banned at champion select which is really uncalled for reporting someone on your team just because I decided to do a ban choice. Btw during that specific game I was actually caring but the 3 refused to work with me and they asked other team to report me and other team did which is really messed up. I sent riot an e-mail about that game and got no reply I had to take my 2 week suspension. But look at the chat here. I'm no where near on the toxic level of many players on this game yet I got banned because 2 players just decided to report me. Btw enemy support was telling me team they'll report me also which is uncool. All because I went top to place a ward? Tristana at bot was way to fed for me to do much of anything. I want everyone to look at this jarvin 4. http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=baronemessina they went 3/11/5 was initing on the enemy team 1 vs 4 or whatever several times. I'm 1/7 but enemy team was saying I was initing when it wasnt me. I stayed back by the tower when he did that and enemy team would just go agro and dive after killing him. But seriously I just gave up on this team since they said they were reporting me and I got banned for this? Riot seriously please fix this automatic system. This is a clear uncalled for ban. I wish I could show you the chat log they were sending at me. Really uncool to be banned just because of only 1 game where I got players that simply didnt like me while I have had 0 issue in all my other games today. And for the past 4 days.

30 Comments

Magical Player4 votes

Copy paste the chat logs, I'm not really going to reply until then :D

Xidphel3 votes

You retaliated. If he threatens to report, mute. No point in talking back. Also, your punishment is based on your own chat behavior.

I'd also remove the link to J4's op.gg. Name shame is against the board rules.

Finally, while that chat (or at least the part that I can see since it continues on) shows nothing that would suggest a skip from no punishment to perma meaning you came off a 14 day ban.

PurgeWithSilver1 votes

the 14 day ban is because the flex team I was with decided to report me pre-game during champion select just because I decided to make a ban on a champion they didnt like. I made a ban on miss fortune. 3 people who were together that specific game started yelling at me for it and said they'll report me to get me banned. You think that is worth a 14 day ban? They even asked the other team to report me that game. I went 6/0 during that game and the 3 refused to work with me. Despite the bashing I tried to gank for them and help them out but they refused to work with me and ultimately they sabotaged the game into a loss. Why didnt I dodged? I was in series that game and we all know we get punished with a loss in a series.

Xidphel1 votes

Did you say anything that would either warrant a simple punishment or a jump to 14 day ban? Hate speech and "kys" is enough for a jump to 14 day. If the 3 reported, only the first report would do anything. The other 2 won't. And if you didn't say anything punishment-worthy, nothing will happen to you. In fact, begging for a report can be considered harassment.

The Cream Reaper3 votes

Very undeserving I feel.

you get off a 14 day ban, flame and get banned for it.

where is the confusion?

PurgeWithSilver1 votes

that 14 day ban came from 8 people reporting me over a champion ban I made at champion select. Man... it was really uncool. 3 people were together in a premade team I was a random on the team. They got mad at me for my champion ban choice and asked the other team to report me as soon the match started and other team agreed without knowing any details at all then had other team trash talk me all game on how they going to report me. I went 6/0 that game and tried to win it but the 3 on my team literally intentionally threw the game then reported me with the other team and I had a 2 week suspension my honor went from 3 to 0. I am seriously not lying to you on this. I wish you were able to see what went on. But I wanna ask you this.. is my flame as bad as everyone else? I know you guys seen so much worse. So I said Sivir is trash? I didnt say the player playing sivir was trash did I? So you took it as flame for opinion of the difference between Sivir and Tristana? Actually it isnt even a opinion its a fact that Tristana is superior. Riot always intentionally makes certain champions op each patch and butcher other champions.

The Cream Reaper1 votes

that 14 day ban came from 8 people reporting me

sigh

ill grow a beard repeating this:

riot does not care how many people report you. they only care about what you yourself type in chat. wether you are reported by 1 person or 9 is IRRELEVANT

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

PurgeWithSilver1 votes

I didn't even say bad that specific game. The worse I said is me explaining the reason to the other team that my 3 pre-made team members wanted them to report me is because of my champion select ban. Anything else I said in that game was me telling the other team that these guys were throwing the game because that is exactly what they did "intentionally". I was literally 6/0 that game and was carrying 3 people who was sabotaging the game into a loss all because I've made a champion select ban choice. It doesnt feel good when you got the other team bashing on you and telling you they will report you just because 3 people on your own team asked them to at the start of the match and then decided to intentionally lose a game just because of a ban choice you have made. Again if the ban system wants to call me toxic for trying to tell enemy team that I have members intentionally throw the game to them when im 6/0 and trying my heart out to win my series but the bashing was continiously been done on me throughout the whole game what else could I do? Perhaps I should have muted but im simply a player that never uses that button for some reason I consider it rude or even feels like it lowers chances at a win when there is 0 communication. For some reason the bot showed me the chat in that game where I asked my top laner that game "You dont want 1st blood?" that wasnt a toxicity.. I simply came top to help him and I ganked and the player refused the help I was trying to give him and he did that through out the whole match.. I ganked bot the adc did the same and I quickly figured out the 3 guys were intentionally throwing the game but making it seem like they werent by not going afk. They just walked back to thier turret and waited whenever I helped with a gank. So I was pretty upset that they didnt even want an assist from my ganks. Our top would walk away from all fights with full hp and his ult up as well and I simply told the enemy team that he was intentionally trying to lose the game but in reply I got bashed on by enemy team and that they'll report me for what I did to my team at champion select which made a ban on Miss Fortune. It was kinda riduculas.. to be honest I would had dodged that game if it werent for the part I was in series and dodging just gives a loss. Why did I ban Miss Fortune? I felt it was a bad champion vs. the enemy team comp that the enemy had. I simply made a ban to increase my chances to winning my series. I mean who doesnt do that? This is a very good reason why I want riot to look up themselves exactly what went on in the games. I'm not hiding the fact of what I said. I was triggered because I had a few games with no problems at all and got bashed on by Nasus for going top to just place a control ward "didnt die btw" and he told everyone to report me which triggered me to say I'll feed his lane because he wouldnt stop with his bashing and then he became even more aggressive with his bashing when all 5 enemy team came top to kill him while he was typing me down instead of playing the game. Also can you please stop acting like I don't understand what you said im not being ignorant to what you are trying to tell me. But the 1st game that got me a 2 week ban was only because I was trying to explain the enemy team what is happening on my team and explaining why I got members throwing the game = 2 week ban by a bot? How in the world is that fair? Someone said "it doesn't matter if you're toxic or not the bot just knows you typed and typing too much can get you banned" that makes alot of sense to me because the log that game showed me not toxicity but simply what I typed. I'm not denying that I lost my cool in the game the game I showed everyone but the one that got me a 2 week ban? I really want riot to look into the games.

The Cream Reaper1 votes

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Ekitaih1 votes

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I didn't even say bad that specific game. The worse I said is me explaining the reason to the other team that my 3 pre-made team members wanted them to report me is because of my champion select ban. Anything else I said in that game was me telling the other team that these guys were throwing the game because that is exactly what they did "intentionally". I was literally 6/0 that game and was carrying 3 people who was sabotaging the game into a loss all because I've made a champion select ban choice. It doesnt feel good when you got the other team bashing on you and telling you they will report you just because 3 people on your own team asked them to at the start of the match and then decided to intentionally lose a game just because of a ban choice you have made. Again if the ban system wants to call me toxic for trying to tell enemy team that I have members intentionally throw the game to them when im 6/0 and trying my heart out to win my series but the bashing was continiously been done on me throughout the whole game what else could I do? Perhaps I should have muted but im simply a player that never uses that button for some reason I consider it rude or even feels like it lowers chances at a win when there is 0 communication. For some reason the bot showed me the chat in that game where I asked my top laner that game "You dont want 1st blood?" that wasnt a toxicity.. I simply came top to help him and I ganked and the player refused the help I was trying to give him and he did that through out the whole match.. I ganked bot the adc did the same and I quickly figured out the 3 guys were intentionally throwing the game but making it seem like they werent by not going afk. They just walked back to thier turret and waited whenever I helped with a gank. So I was pretty upset that they didnt even want an assist from my ganks. Our top would walk away from all fights with full hp and his ult up as well and I simply told the enemy team that he was intentionally trying to lose the game but in reply I got bashed on by enemy team and that they'll report me for what I did to my team at champion select which made a ban on Miss Fortune. It was kinda riduculas.. to be honest I would had dodged that game if it werent for the part I was in series and dodging just gives a loss. Why did I ban Miss Fortune? I felt it was a bad champion vs. the enemy team comp that the enemy had. I simply made a ban to increase my chances to winning my series. I mean who doesnt do that? This is a very good reason why I want riot to look up themselves exactly what went on in the games. I'm not hiding the fact of what I said. I was triggered because I had a few games with no problems at all and got bashed on by Nasus for going top to just place a control ward "didnt die btw" and he told everyone to report me which triggered me to say I'll feed his lane because he wouldnt stop with his bashing and then he became even more aggressive with his bashing when all 5 enemy team came top to kill him while he was typing me down instead of playing the game. Also can you please stop acting like I don't understand what you said im not being ignorant to what you are trying to tell me. But the 1st game that got me a 2 week ban was only because I was trying to explain the enemy team what is happening on my team and explaining why I got members throwing the game = 2 week ban by a bot? How in the world is that fair? Someone said "it doesn't matter if you're toxic or not the bot just knows you typed and typing too much can get you banned" that makes alot of sense to me because the log that game showed me not toxicity but simply what I typed. I'm not denying that I lost my cool in the game the game I showed everyone but the one that got me a 2 week ban? I really want riot to look into the games.

I'd be curious to see that chat log. Typically you don't get banned for just getting reported. There has to be a reason, otherwise 5 stacks could just target ban an entire enemy team and BAM they get to ban the enemy team. You were likely toxic in that game as well. Retaliation is also a bannable offense. Just because you didn't like what your team was doing doesn't mean you get to be toxic. You should go and refresh yourself on the TOU again before creating another account. I doubt you'll get this one back, unfortunately.

Sarutobi2 votes

Any reason why you are only showing some of your chatlogs?

PurgeWithSilver1 votes

I gave riot both parts. But if you want to see the next part its really not much to see but here. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/371852923338096643/375725365676736512/log2.jpg

PurgeWithSilver1 votes

The jarvin on my team kept initing and feeding enemy team and the enemy team kept saying I was initing also when what actually happen he was jumping in a 1 vs 4 died and then enemy team would tower dive us and then they claimed I inited with him.

Mindspeaker2 votes

op I don't see why your confused about your ban ? You retaliated . responded and or acted in a way contrary to what riot allows.

There is never any "context" or "justification" for responding to, reacting to any Intentional negative chat , action or play .

Also there is never any "context" or Justification to negativity commenting on something you simply don't like or what you consider "bad play" of any kind.

You have no criticize anyone at any time for any reason including in ranked at any level.

If there is a feeder or afk just ignore them and play as you would if everything was fine.

If you disagree and /or ignore these rules, continue to break them then you don't belong as a GUEST of Riot and your Privilege of playing in this game should be taken away permanently,

As for blaming your punishable speech or actions on other players - that is also inherently wrong

YOu control and are responsible for your own actions speech.

If YOU are sooooo emotionally unstable that YOU let a mere video game change your emotional state to where you want to rage and YOU dont have any kind of anger management control or are simply a negative hostile uncivilized verbally abusive person in general ....that that is YOUR problem not anyone elsee.

No matter what anyone does or says in game no matter how bad

if YOU choose to respond to it in any way the YOU rightly deserve to be punished as well.

If you don't like how random people, don't want the "risk" of someone intentionally trying to disrupt the game ( intentional feeders afk verbal abusive leaverbuster avoiders) play then it's up to you not to join a random que ,

Kei1431 votes

So ...

He flamed.

You retaliated by putting more oil on the fire.

You got punished for your retaliation flame and your next punishment happened to be a permaban (probably escalated through the punishment ladder multiple times?).

Sounds like working as intended.

Limmie1 votes

Threatening to int is in itself already pretty toxic even if you don't do it. Just that is enough to trigger a punishment and the punished tier escalation means even a ggez can get you permanently banned if you've already got 14-banned before and you've got a lot of marks on your rapsheet already.

PurgeWithSilver1 votes

that previous mark for a 14 day suspension is because my team reported me only for a ban choice I made at champion select. Which is kinda a uncalled for suspension.. they got the other team to report me despite me having a great game that specific game which was a loss because the 3 who wanted to report me threw the game intentionally and I felt bad for the other random player who wasnt with the 3 pre-made guys because he had to suffer a loss also because they threw the game intentionally.

jpguy9021 votes

You shouldn't try to enforce the pro game meta at your elo. Really anything can be viable and sivir is a fine choice.

You didn't get banned for placing a ward top, you got banned because you kept arguing with your team. If they were being jerks you should mute and ignore.

PurgeWithSilver1 votes

The player doesnt play adc. Tristana went 7/0 at 10 minutes. I left bot to place wards. My team yelled at me for doing that and told me to go back bot while I was placing wards sivir over extended and died yet again making tristana legendary. Then they ultimately decided they'll report me and jarvin just inited all game long. And while Nasus was bashing on me the entire enemy team came top and killed him and made him even more aggressive at me with his bashing. The answer is no I did not intentionally feed, I said that because I wasn't appreciating his bashing when I only placed a ward for him and then being blamed on because sivir died yet again to a super fed tristana.

HauntingTheNet1 votes

You were incredibly toxic how the heck can you feel this is undeserving?

You called your adc trash just for not choosing the champion you wanted them to take. You threatened to int.

Either of those actions is worth a punishment. From the looks of things you were already on a punishment warning when this happened. Ban rightfully placed.

Learn to stop attacking people in chat. Take the golden rule to heart, "If you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all." Or at the very least don't type it into game chat. Yell, insult, curse, etc all you want in the real world but don't share it with others. This will make the community less toxic, and you will not get banned next time. Win, win.

PurgeWithSilver1 votes

I threaten to int because our top was threatening with a report when I only came top to place a control ward for him. Then after leaving after placing a ward for him the entire enemy team came top and 1 vs 5 killed him then he started bashing on me even more so yah I got mad and threaten to just feed since he was trash talking me. I placed a ward for him so he wouldnt die and he flipped out that I did that and then he died while bashing on me and decided it was my fault.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Dude you don't get it, it doesn't matter why you do it. It's never okay to threaten to feed no matter what.

Edited for politeness.

Róok1 votes

Good to see the system works and gets rid of baby ragers.

PurgeWithSilver1 votes

I just want to say. In almost every single game I play on this game. People flame each other at champion select and people are strangers to one another its unbelievable, normally I dont respond to pre-game chat but the game that got me the 14 day suspension is because I had 3 people bashing on me because I made a champion ban they didn't like and brought the bashing to the actual game. Despite the bashing I still tried to help with ganks and went 6/0 as a jungler but they sabotaged the game into a loss. My 1st death is because I came top to gank by hiding in a bush. My top got ganked I showed up to help him. What does he do? He walked away with full hp and mana and let me die to a 2 vs 1 he even had his ult up on champion Maokai and then made a remark that he still going to report me with everyone else. Then the enemy team also started bashing me out of no where saying I deserved that death and then I tried explaining that they are throwing the game intentionally to them which they really were. I can't carry 3 players that wants to intentionally lose because of a ban choice I made at champion select. The enemy team had nothing to do with our team but they decided to report with the 3 on my team and I got 8 reports in a single game that dropped my honor level from 3 to 0 with a 14 day suspension. I really really want riot to look at both that game and this one that got me permanately banned. I am not hiding the fact I responded to toxicity here with my own. I got angry over the fact I was getting reported because I left bot to place a ward in a game where tristana was awfully fed. You see part in my chat where I said "I did shield you" they were bashing on me for not shielding them when I did. I was playing janna that game. I had 7 deaths that game top and mid had 6 adc had 8 our jungle had 11. Our jungler that game was intentionally initing and I got blamed for those inits, it didnt matter what I did that game I was blamed for every single mistake that was made by anyone. I get the fact I could have just muted and I just so happen to be a player that never uses it and I got upset to the point that I didn't even think of the mute button. I played maybe 6 or 7 games that day and won 4 of them and only had just this 1 game where players were hostile and this got me the ban hammer. Well was on a 4 game winstreak. So just 1 game out of 7 that specific day where toxicity was high got me banned. The previous game my jungler at post game after our team won bashed on me for doing nothing when I was 1/0/18 as a support. I mean I literally shielded him and he got kills when Miss Fortune on enemy team ulted I stopped her ult with a janna ult and he said I did nothing that game. I mean this is the reality of low elo almost every game is toxic doesn't matter if you play well or dont. I once got a popup from riot that asked the question if I think thier game is toxic and it gave options if not toxic or a little toxic or very toxic for example as answers. I literally answered toxic in every game because it really is. I said 2 or 3 lines that Sivir isnt as good as tristana I think and feel she deserves a buff. It wasnt a direct bash at the player playing her it was the champion itself being inferior to a tristana. I mean the guy went 7/0 at 10 minutes and I really was salty he was so fed because I just kinda felt this game is over already. Because we were losing across the map not just bot. I left bot to place some wards in hopes the team wouldnt feed more but that only got me bashed on by top/jungle for doing that and that kind of triggered me. I just simply felt at that point that I give up on the team mainly because J4 was initing in 1 vs 4's 1 vs 5's and im being blamed for those inits. You can clearly see me say in the chat.. "let me guess that is my fault too?" I was pretty clearly upset. And yes its because I knew my honor level is at 0 and I was being reported so I felt like this ban was going to happen and it did. I'm a competitive person. I had a goal to get flex to the next promotion which I was pretty close hitting gold in flex to go with my solo q rank for the rewards and then this game happens. The fact is.. that its a bot that sending out the bans,suspensions. But based on the chat alone do you guys really think what I said in chat is ban worthy? Is a player being suspended because 8 people reported you because I made a ban on a champion at champion select? The 3 on my team got the entire enemy team to help them with a report and bashed on me for the ban choice that whole game. I really want riot to look into that specific game which dropped my honor from 3 to 0 and got me the 14 day suspension. I mean who here feels a player deserves to have a suspension because of a ban choice? I did a ban at champion select on Miss Fortune and did not know my adc was a MF 1 trick and got bashed by all of them for banning that champion. And those 3 got the other team to report with them. I mean how would you guys feel to be in that situation? I hardly play with anyone on flex I just play flex alone 90% of the time so I play with a bunch of randoms I don't know at all. I admittingly say I see toxicity immediately from champion select to the start/end of game play in almost every single game I play. This specific game where I got banned I admit I was pretty salty that tristana was so fed. But my team rubbed in on that wound with threats of reports when I left bot to just ward. I mean im a support I should be warding for the team. Right? But then they got triggered when our adc died yet again when I was warding and our top got even more triggered when the entire enemy team came top and killed him while he was type bashing on me in chat. So he said im definately reporting you now. So yes I got triggered and told him do you want me to intentionally feed your lane because I will! What blows my mind is that they were so busy bashing on me that they said nothing about J4 intentionally feeding enemy team. I got blamed for absolutely everything.. I shielded they said I did not shield. They said "oh now you ult" when I barely hit level 6 to be able to use it. I looked at everyones profile after the game they were all coming off of loses while I had a winstreak so I just took it as they were tilted from previous game loss/losses but I was being blamed for every single mistake that game. I'm in no way excusing my own actions. I know I responded toxicity with some toxicity of my own but to be permanately banned for something I seen so often of players being much worse and still fine in the game? I mean yah, I do care about that account and what has happened. I admit that last year I was extremely toxic and since from last year I calmed down a crap ton. If they were to compare last year to this year chat logs. I'm not a perfect with my own personal behavior but its definately improved. I cursed just once in that game where a year ago I would curse in almost every chat message I wrote like 20 times per game. Yes im admitting I was once that bad and extremely toxic but im not that person anymore. I just had a game where I was salty with a team that decided to report for a game where everyone failed across the board but they put the blame on me and I acted out abit as a response. If everyone here and riot feels like I definately should stay banned then I'll accept the decision and uninstall the game. I just want to see a riot decision over a bot decision because I feel like this current game the permanate ban decision from reports is pretty extreme punishment.

Profette1 votes

Minor suggestion - I'm not going to read all of this, and it's unlikely anyone else will. In general, when you're writing, write so your audience will perceive and sympathize with your position. Separate thoughts with paragraphs. Your punctuation (from the last couple of sentences) seems fine. This particular reply is a wall of text that no one is going through.

As you can see, if I break my thoughts into pithier statements and keep it short-and-sweet, you're more likely to read and respond. Hope your issue gets resolved.

The Cream Reaper1 votes

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PurgeWithSilver1 votes

Welp, feels bad man.. riot said I wont get the account back, reason was that it doesn't matter who started it, its the fact I kept speaking instead of just playing the game. They did not care if I stopped being toxic in the middle of the match or kept being toxic within the match, its the fact I spoke instead of just played the game and "I" was a distraction to everyone on both teams. In other words it seems like the only communication they want to see in solo/flex que is only ping communication.. why bother give people a chat within the game then? How to fix toxicity? Remove chat completely.. problem solved riot... =/ welp anyways this sucks. I am not sure how it is in high elo but in the silver elo, almost in all games the moment you join a game right at champion select there is almost always someone toxic to the rest of the team. It's very common and normal and I guess after playing too many games you eventually get sucked into the drama. I just want people to know I played 6 games that day and got sucked into the toxicity just 1 game and no matter what I did that game I got blamed and told I'll be reported. I placed a ward got bashed on. I shielded a team mate got blamed for not shielding. You can see within my text that I was responding to players on my team. But "the responses" got me banned. According to riot defensive response to another persons bashing is still considered toxic and a bannable offense. So me saying "I did shield you" is toxic to them. (kinda blows my mind) but ya.. I guess anyone who never been banned before might would like to see this and see how easy it is to get banned on this game. Anyways, thanks for the feedback guys.

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