Rant: Instant-Feedback System is stupid.

cloμd·10/11/2017, 10:01:14 AM·1 votes·585 views

tl;dr If you don't like someone, you disagree with someone, you don't like the champion they picked, you don't like a single play they made, or you're just having a bad day, you report people for nonsensical reasons and they get punished because it accumulates. Unless I guess they just don't use chat at all. But if using chat is punishable, then get rid of the stupid chat box. I've thus decided in all future games:

  • If I see someone use chat other than to say "good job," I'm reporting them. Why? Because the stupid broken system is stupid and broken.

Triggered. This qualifies for chat restriction, while I literally see people saying "i hope you get cancer in real life and die." If the contents of these chat logs is too unbearable, Grow. Up.

Game 1 Context: (This is the only conceivably "toxic" one)

  • At the time, an account with minimum number of champs to play ranked, no real viable supports and I got autofilled. I requested to swap for any other role and was denied, so I took Teemo support.
  • First 30s of game: ADC uses Heal out of nowhere
  • I ask the ADC to help when I engage, instead of just CSing and watching me 1v2
  • I roam mid, gank mid. Talon dies and Annie has to recall, so I start shoving mid lane to tower, to a flurry of spam pings and inflammatory remarks from Talon and Singed.
  • ADC joins in, flaming me because they died before I got back to bot lane.
  • Singed decides to join back in the flaming because I picked Teemo support. (Specifically harassing for picking Teemo.)

> Game 1 > cloμd: why did you heal already.. > cloμd: can you help when i engage > cloμd: get a kill, lose 2cs > cloμd: it's called tax > cloμd: i ganked mid, i tax while talon is gon > cloμd: k talon > cloμd: enjoy mute and report > cloμd: this isn't bronze, if you want me to supp, learn what high elo supps do > cloμd: : roam > cloμd: also muted, also reported. youtube a video of the best supps > cloμd: see how much time they spend in lane > cloμd: it is you being toxic > cloμd: no, i was roaming and ganking > cloμd: anyway, i'm done supping you, i don't enjoy being harassed > cloμd: i already am, it's an easy ban based on his chat > cloμd: maybe you'd do better if you spent more time trying to win, less time harassing me > cloμd: i asked for anyone to swap me > cloμd: and even as teemo, i intended to carry until you and talon started flaming me > cloμd: when you get out of silver you'll learn otherwise > cloμd: if* > cloμd: my main is plat tho > cloμd: so not likely > cloμd: you had a free win, but couldn't stop flaming for 2 min > cloμd: think what you want > cloμd: enjoy your loss of LP > cloμd: harder to regain if you're banned tho singed > cloμd: you're* > cloμd: no one has to > cloμd: yes, i know trist > cloμd: enjoy your ban > cloμd: doesn't matter, once is enough > cloμd: gl > cloμd: yeah i know he will > cloμd: lol > cloμd: i'll have this acct in plat by then > cloμd: not likely > cloμd: go ahead and check up in a month > cloμd: you'll be hardstuck here, this acct will be plat > cloμd: you're* > cloμd: it's kinda hard to get placed higher on new acct > cloμd: tbh, if you report any of singed, talon, or trist, it's a free ban on them based

Game 2 Context: The player who was assigned jungle had his one-trick jungle champ banned. So he took Teemo and came duo top with me (we had no jungle) and trolled my lane, including taking as much cs as possible from me and intentional feeding the enemy Garen. (At one point I respond to a "wait how did Garen get fed?") I managed to go 16/5 and carry for the win.

> Game 2 > cloμd: nobody flamed you pregame, you just insist on trolling regardless > cloμd: however, refusing to play the role you were assigned is bannable. so either leave top, or be reported. on that note, muted and > cloμd: enjoy > cloμd: just ff, teemo has been trolling since champ select and intentionally feeding all game > cloμd: teemo kicked me out of lane, so i am forced to farm jg > cloμd: i'm not* hardstuck > cloμd: lucian, please group > cloμd: we will lose if you keep splitting > cloμd: bc teemo kicked me out of top lane and int fed him > cloμd: so will you group or nah > cloμd: i'm carrying, so i think i do > cloμd: we need to group, not split > cloμd: teemo take blue

Game 3 Context: I honestly have no idea. I'm guessing it was someone harassing me based on champion choice or my decision to roam or anything. In case you great elo mongerers are unaware, "report ____" occurs probably in 99% of NA silver games, on at least one team. If your team isn't saying it, the enemy team is all-chatting you to report their "feeder." So in response to someone saying report me, likely among other harassment, I say well...2 lines of text.

> Game 3 > cloμd: lol that's not reportable, but harassment is bannable > cloμd: likewise, gl with it

/endrant

21 Comments

Chermorg10/11/2017, 11:17:24 AM5 votes

Alright, let's get this straight:

League of Legends is a game that's played by many millions of players casually. As in, one or two games a day at most, and they play it after school/work to relax. This isn't some pro sports arena where there's a team captain - everyone is equal.

That being said, you do not get to boss your team around, you do not get to determine others' behavior and whether it merits a punishment, and you certainly don't get to spam chat for the entire game with the aforementioned. You are not "arguing", you are trying to belittle your teammates and make them do your bidding as if they were your slaves - which they are not.

Note that I didn't read your provided context. There's no need for me to. Riot, and the community (from which Riot bases its punishment criteria) have repeatedly punished people even with the excuse of "I didn't start it". Long story short, it doesn't matter who's being toxic, who's playing bad, who's "trolling", or anything else. You do not get to fight their "fire" (or toxicity) by adding to it with more of your own "fire".

That is why you were punished - not for "arguing", not for "using chat", not for "nonsensical reasons", but because you abused the chat feature to constantly belittle and boss your teammates around in retaliation for their performance.

EvilDustMan10/11/2017, 10:06:21 AM3 votes

The first one, definitely, is punishment worthy. Instead of muting, you act superior the entire time. The second one, you keep trying to fight with Teemo.

No idea what is up with the third one, contact support.

Kei14310/11/2017, 3:18:41 PM2 votes

The system only accumulates valid reports.

False reports get tossed out by the system.

jpguy90210/11/2017, 6:10:23 PM1 votes

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