Got banned because I didn't buy a sighstone

FaZeSolar·Jan 5, 2018·1 votes·675 views

I was playing a game when I got autofilled to support. Obviously, I didn't play support so I asked to switch and I got a little annoying, so I stopped. I decided to go someone I was good at, Xerath, since he isn't a troll pick, like Yasuo or Zed support, and we also had no AP. In the game, the Vi got mad because I didn't buy a sightstone and I said "I don't want to buy one" because a health item on Xerath does not seem very good. I flamed her a little bit by saying "ur bitching" and "ur so salty" but I really do not think someone should deserve a perma ban for just saying some thing very small like this, and later on in the game we got along a little bit. I think I should be unbanned.

19 Comments

zPOOPzJan 5, 201810 votes

What a misleading topic....

So you know you didn't get banned for not buying a sightstone, but you got banned for "flamed her a little bit".

Would you post all your unedited chat logs so we can discuss if it's justified in a more meaningful way?

Jo0oJan 5, 20186 votes

I sincerely doubt Riot sent you a reform card stating "You were banned because you didn't buy a sightstone", so how about we see those chat logs?

Lintu PuckJan 6, 20183 votes

if you go support one item you buy, no matter the champion, is a sightstone. that plus you deliberately gave your teammates a hard time just because you got autofilled to support. your ban was completely deserved.

Umbral RegentJan 6, 20181 votes

I don't buy a Sightstone when I play Leona or Alistar. Sightstone isn't remotely mandatory, and there are a slew of other options available to those who don't want to use it.

Jo0oJan 6, 20184 votes

Just because it's virtually always a support cornerstone doesn't mean enforcing its purchase is reasonable, and there's no current rules stating as much.

OnlyYouCanHearMeJan 6, 20181 votes

Exactly this. While I personally prefer to get sightstone on my first or second back, there are plenty of situations where you could feasibly play a match without getting one. Especially at higher elo, purchase of a sightstone is often delayed, with much more reliance upon control wards, and if the player is significantly ahead at their back, they may forego buying sightstone in favor of early damage. I know that pre-nerfs, if I got the chance to back with 1300 gold on Sona, I was going to be getting a Sheen and a control ward, maybe a pot. Not Sightstone, boots and a control ward. But that also means you have to be on-top of your game with trinket placement and watching the mini-map constantly, because you've got much less vision coverage. I think it just becomes a problem if the player is dropping down on keeping vision coverage, and they don't know how to step up, get more control wards out, or defend the ones they have out, to try and cover objectives and gank paths.

Telephone BoothJan 6, 20181 votes

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if you go support one item you buy, no matter the champion, is a sightstone. that plus you deliberately gave your teammates a hard time just because you got autofilled to support. your ban was completely deserved.

While I agree a support should buy a sightstone by AT LEAST their third item, you can't ban people for not getting it. It is not against the rules to play support and not get a sightstone.

ModPeriscopeJan 6, 20181 votes

Since he's the only AP, I think it's fine for him to build other items

Telephone BoothJan 6, 20183 votes

So you flamed her, yet you think the reason for your ban was not buying sightstone?

Who Fed RuJan 5, 20182 votes

yeeee suuuuure.

and the chat logs?

FalkentyneJan 6, 20182 votes

And...he leaves and doesn't reply anymore...

ElipoJan 6, 20182 votes

If you don't want to buy sightstone at least use the regular free wards and buy spellthief's edge (you don't even have to upgrade it) so you get gold without stealing cs, it gives you mana regen, damage and gold by poking the enemy and by standing near the adc while he is farming (wich is so good for the money that riot had to put the "stops working if you last hit a minion" passive to it to stop mid laners from buying it). Then you can go dark seal so you get ap with assists or kills, and even if you want to get all the kills in bot lane, you can help the adc survive by poking or killing the enemy or by stunning or rooting the enemies (so your adc is more likely to not even care if you get all the kills and not getting tilted, so there's no 1v2): there's no need to be a dick to go full damage as a suport.

Or even better: dodge the match if you got a role you don't like instead of flamming and loosing everyone's time incluiding yours. Isn't it better to wait 10 or 15 minutes for a role you want than having a match for around half an hour in an undesired role?

FaZeSolarJan 6, 20181 votes

Game 1 FaZeSolar: vi FaZeSolar: why do u think im trolling FaZeSolar: xerath support is a real pick FaZeSolar: i would have went lux but i dont have her FaZeSolar: O FML FaZeSolar: should i sell d ring FaZeSolar: i'll get it next back FaZeSolar: if i wanted to troll i would have taken that buff FaZeSolar: shyv started blue FaZeSolar: prolly going red FaZeSolar: care top mid FaZeSolar: sry FaZeSolar: he wasnt in range FaZeSolar: for exhuast FaZeSolar: i will back and get support item FaZeSolar: im sry trist FaZeSolar: just keep ur csing up and we'll crush them FaZeSolar: i didnt know she was there FaZeSolar: im so bad FaZeSolar: nice FaZeSolar: vi FaZeSolar: u needa go FaZeSolar: full tank FaZeSolar: well u sure need me to tell u FaZeSolar: am i complaining?> FaZeSolar: trist FaZeSolar: im going to auto FaZeSolar: every 12 secs FaZeSolar: bc my passive FaZeSolar: gives me mana FaZeSolar: aw man FaZeSolar: duide FaZeSolar: what are you doing FaZeSolar: dont go in 1v3 FaZeSolar: because i dont want a sighstone FaZeSolar: im going to mute u FaZeSolar: ur so salty FaZeSolar: yes FaZeSolar: ult 1v3 FaZeSolar: into a turret FaZeSolar: i tried to give it to you guys FaZeSolar: vi FaZeSolar: report me FaZeSolar: please report me FaZeSolar: fml FaZeSolar: 2 in rivee FaZeSolar: lol FaZeSolar: ur flaming me because i dont have a sightstone FaZeSolar: whos the kid? FaZeSolar: report this vi please FaZeSolar: she keeps getting pissed off because i went xerath support and FaZeSolar: i dont have sightstone FaZeSolar: i asked to go another role
FaZeSolar: but apperantly thats "bitching" FaZeSolar: ur bitching abt me getting sightstone FaZeSolar: okay im muting ytou FaZeSolar: you're so annoying FaZeSolar: now maybe i can have enough gold for a sighstone FaZeSolar: we have no tanks and ur going ad FaZeSolar: so explain FaZeSolar: lux support FaZeSolar: annie support FaZeSolar: im peeling FaZeSolar: ... FaZeSolar: trist FaZeSolar: just FaZeSolar: report the vi FaZeSolar: no point talking to her FaZeSolar: lol FaZeSolar: go tank FaZeSolar: and maybe i'll talk to u FaZeSolar: happy? FaZeSolar: good stuff kayle FaZeSolar: whatn sighstone FaZeSolar: what sightstone FaZeSolar: o FaZeSolar: stop talking to me now FaZeSolar: want me to sell it? FaZeSolar: YES KAYLE FaZeSolar: CARRY ME FaZeSolar: vi inting FaZeSolar: scuttle is vision FaZeSolar: does it matter FaZeSolar: kayle FaZeSolar: who do u tihnk FaZeSolar: is trolling FaZeSolar: me or this vi FaZeSolar: mb kayle FaZeSolar: vi FaZeSolar: come FaZeSolar: vik yop FaZeSolar: top FaZeSolar: shenn dead FaZeSolar: 3v5 FaZeSolar: we can fight FaZeSolar: well FaZeSolar: dont fight without kayle FaZeSolar: just kill that fiora and shyvana and we win fights FaZeSolar: i can kill vayne FaZeSolar: dude FaZeSolar: why did u not just run FaZeSolar: and then u went into vayne FaZeSolar: ^^ FaZeSolar: report vi

Jo0oJan 6, 20188 votes

A strategic disagreement is fine, but you manage to keep this argument going from minute 1 all the way through the entire game, including report calling and accusing your teammates of inting. You easily could have muted them, a fact made all the more relevant by the fact that you said "muting you" halfway through but then apparently failed to do so.

This would ordinarily just be a chat restriction sort of deal, if anything, but it IS a negative log, and it's been less than a week since your two-week ban ended. You were supposed to be on your best behavior, and this wasn't that.

The Cream ReaperJan 6, 20181 votes

FaZeSolar: you're so annoying

your chatlog in a nut shell

redniwediSJan 6, 20181 votes

Vi was in the wrong for flaming you, and you were in the wrong for both flaming her and not buying a sightstone as a support. It can upgrade into an item with AP. For the most part so long as you go down bot lane, don't take farm, try to keep your ADC alive, and buy a sightstone people don't care if you're not a support player.

But your punishment was about the flame, not sightstone.

Zombie GerbilJan 6, 20181 votes

You got banned because you deserved it. Not because of your choice of items or champion. You were toxic, you asked for a report, and you got punished. So no, you should not be unbanned.

BeatzBoyFTWJan 6, 20181 votes

and I said "I don't want to buy one" because a health item on Xerath does not seem very good.

This is, if not, one of the most selfish reasons for not buying Sightstone I've ever read. You're buying it for team vision, which is worth a lot more than just 150+ HP.