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Flawed Punishment System is Flawed

BlueWaterBelow·7/4/2018, 11:33:36 PM·2 votes·1,680 views

Alright, anyone else had really poor experiences and gotten chat restrictions or worse they sincerely felt they did not deserve? I just played a game where I only made 2 comments. The first (I was the Jungler) I went bot lane, pinged I was coming. We had a pretty good position, both my team mates were at full health, it was a good engage. But rather than go in with me, the laners back off and I wound up fighting 1v2 and died. I didn't flame, I DID comment in chat along the lines of "guys, why did you not help me out, that was an easy double", they retorted, I made a comment to be ready the next go round, and that was it.

A few minutes later, I attempted Dragon. I pinged for assistance, as our Support Sona was sitting bot lane and the enemy team was not there with her. I pinged a few more times, still no response, she sat bot and farmed. After the dragon, which went off without interference, I asked, (rightfully in my opinion) why Sona hadnt helped out. Immediately, this was meant with flaming from Mid for "calling her out", and our adc and sona then proceeded to flame me actively the rest of the ENTIRE game for those two comments, saying I was incompetent, insulting me repeatedly, telling me I needed to grow up, it just didn't end from start to finish. After the game, go figure, all three of them reported me and I got a chat restriction. I even took the time to go back over the chat on the notification, those two comments were the ONLY things I said and it sent them into attacks on me.

Situations like this have happened before, repeatedly. Now I'm not going to claim I've never had a toxic game before, I think anyone who claims that is lying frankly, but 9 times out of 10, it's because of a bs situation like this, where I literally do nothing other than make a suggestion or ask for help, a premade or some such takes offense, spend the ENTIRE Game flaming and acting toxic, then I get the punishment. And frankly submitting any ticket seems pointless, it seems like no matter how many positive games you have if you have a negative one anywhere on the list it gets used to justify the restriction in these situations. Any thoughts? Opinions?

27 Comments

ModThe Djinn7/4/2018, 11:38:22 PM5 votes

{quoted}Alright, anyone else had really poor experiences and gotten chat restrictions or worse they sincerely felt they did not deserve?

Do you have your chat logs? I'd be happy to help you figure out whether this is an instance where you should talk to Player Support, or whether there is behavior here that you may be missing.

Basically, one or two toxic games here and there can get you punished, based on how much toxicity is in your one or two games.

ZackTheWaffleMan7/5/2018, 12:00:19 AM3 votes

inhales

#CHAT LOGS

Zombie Gerbil7/5/2018, 1:20:17 AM3 votes

Cool. Didn't read a bit of that.

Where's the chat-log? Then the board will be interested in a discussion. Till then, Perfect System is Perfect.

Does its job to the letter.

SweetRainTv7/5/2018, 12:38:04 AM2 votes

BlueWaterBelow: Yep, im the child lol

child confirmed [sg-kiko]

RxO Carmada7/4/2018, 11:54:59 PM1 votes

Honestly, I think it's hilarious that Riot ignores tickets reporting players. I had this one guy who told me he was going to come to my house and cut off all my fingers and I submitted a ticket to Riot their response was somewhere along the lines of. "While we appreciate you reporting him the IFS handles that, tough luck." It's pretty funny how terrible they handle their player behaviour teams.

EDIT: Might be worth mentioning that I took a picture of what he said in post-game lobby (which is where he said it) and put it in the ticket.

Aekami7/5/2018, 1:14:01 AM1 votes

I read the logs you posted, unless they are edited, I think you tilted but there should not be any sanction to that.

But what you have to understand is that riot does not care and prefer to rely on a wacky moderation system rather than a moderation system with ... moderators. You know, actual living people who understand what is going on, not an automated system triggered by some sentences or words.

But creating a better system costs money, and that doesn't bring money once it's done. Unlike the LCS, for that one riot has millions. But it brings money.

So for this specific instance, from your logs, you are not to blame. You answered as anyone would have, you tilted as anyone would have. Regardless what people try to say in this thread, you acted humanly, you can safely ignore all those who will blame you for not ignoring your team's toxicity. Yes it would have been better to mute them and forget, however you are not a robot and should not try to act as one.