AM I DOING SOMETHING WRONG? (can't win in Gold 5)

Lynne12··2 votes·3,438 views

Am I doing something wrong? Any advice or ideas please? Started League end of Season 6. Last season was my first ranked Season. Made it to Gold 5 by only playing rank last half. Got back into Gold 5 and I'm about to be demoted. Ever since I got back in, I have had to report 1-3 people a game for afk/inting/trolling/rage quit/toxic every game. I've only won 1 or 2 games. And they still had people being very toxic. Is it just me or are other people's ranked worse this season. Is it my mmr? I play Support whatever the team needs and is good at the moment. Janna Nami Lulu Taric Zyra Morgana. Nothing seems to change it. I don't play ranked much now because of it. [sg-soraka]

19 Comments

Lynne123 votes

I regularly watch "The Strategy Professor" on Youtube: a High Plat/Low Diamond(he jumps back and forth) LOL Support Coach/Streamer.

I truly feel like I've learned a lot from him. I shot call objectives when I see fit. My vision score is way better, I call summoners and ults more, and I try to think more strategically on when/who to fight. I know I still need work on certain areas (checking peoples kda/items more often, CD's).

Of course everyone believes they're right and are good at this game but I truly believe I belong at least past Silver.

Baval1 votes

It sounds like you have the right attitude to keep climbing. Id offer to duo with you a bit but right now I dont have a computer that is capable of playing (my last 5 games were attempting to on the computer I have...my lag was horrible)

Baval2 votes

The 5s of any division tend to be the worst because people dont care as much in them. They have either accepted that they cant climb in that division or theyre freshly promoted and dont care if they lose since they lose nothing.

It can be a struggle to climb from the 5s, and usually you have to do the carrying, but its not impossible. Remember to try to stay as positive as possible in game because any little thing can set some people off, especially in Gold 5 in particular as low gold players tend to believe theyre better than everyone for having made it out of silver.

As a similar note, you often wont be able to change low gold players mind on their strategies, so you will often have to help them make sub par strategies work out rather than convincing them to use better ones.

TL:DR 5s in any division is always pretty toxic and you pretty much have to carry yourself out of it.

Lynne122 votes

Thank you! I feel a lot better with this information! I was at 0 LP then -5 LP and lost again and it showed I went back to 0 LP now. Not sure how that worked out. I feel I'm one loss away from demoting but only playing again will tell I assume. Last season my goal was Gold 5 and I got it at the very end so I didn't play after my promos. I've been practicing brand support in normals so I might keep that up and bring him to ranked very soon while he's still meta right now as a support carry. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Baval1 votes

good news is you can go to -23 lp i believe, and getting demoted back to silver is really hard (your MMR has to go back to around silver 3 before it will demote you)

Lynne121 votes

I have hope!

Best Vi Earth2 votes

cut out janna and morg from the champ pool. you wont learn much from them when climbing higher levels. add thresh/leona i feel like i have better control with those champs to run the game i want to. or you could try blitz but those going to be kinda hard at first. but once you get good at him the sky is the limit and makes games incredibly easy when you get hooks over and over. also another big part of controlling the game as support is knowing when to roam and playing characters with good CC to get kills/mid. i mean just this alone got my smurf "hooks and hands" to diamond 5.

Lynne121 votes

Thanks for the advice! I play Brand and Blitz in normals because i'm not quite comfortable enough to take them to ranked yet. Will start with Brand. I'm Mastery 5 on both I believe. I've played Leona some as well (Mastery 4 i think) and I used to play Thresh a lot (Mastery 6) but I've basically forgotten how to play him its been so long. I own Alistar but have only tried him a few times. I definitely am not good at pulling off successful ganks when roaming (why i gave up on learning jungle for now) My adc dies before i even get to mid

Best Vi Earth1 votes

i sometimes have that problem with adcs as well. i ALWAYS say " im warding mid / im roaming mid ,dont die" everytime they sadly only read it about 30% of the time lol

Lynne121 votes

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i sometimes have that problem with adcs as well. i ALWAYS say " im warding mid / im roaming mid ,dont die" everytime they sadly only read it about 30% of the time lol

I need to ping to just say I'm taking out this ward don't fight for 3 sec lol. (only sometimes)

Lynne121 votes

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[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Butt Ρlug2 votes

Hey, Keep it up ! it's true that those 5s of divisions are always a pain in the ass. Try to play a few champions and play them fairly well, i started ranked less than a month ago on this account and got gold 3 playing mainly lux and lulu support, everything is possible :)

TSP is an awesome channel, the "dodge at least one game a day" is one of his best advice.

I don't have that many advice for you beside looking up your teammates op.gg every time before the game starts, knowing if you have a lot of auto-filled and so on. Eventually you'll end up with a nice adc that plays a champion that got great synergy with one of yours, for me it's something like vayne or twitch when i'm playing lulu, at this point if you feel great together try duoing for a few games, it can help.

Anyway, good luck !

Lynne121 votes

I definitely need to op.gg more often thanks for the reminder!

Butt Ρlug1 votes

It's so useful, it takes 10 seconds usually i've looked up their main roles and main champions before the banning phase is over, if you got 3 auto-filled with you it's most likely a loss.

Otherwise looking at your replays is something nice too, you'll see mistakes that you wouldn't have noticed before, even small things like "at this moment i was affraid of this champion but he already used his hook 5 seconds ago so i should have been able to poke" from that point you make a mental note to play around his cooldowns next time you're into this matchup.

Something i started to do recently is timing summoners spells, as soon as the pre game lobby is over and the game launches itself you have access to your enemies runes in details under the "live game" tab on your op.gg profile, something nice is to make a little note on a paper near your keyboard that looks like something like that :

https://i.imgur.com/ShdnXj2.png

( this one might be outdated i'm not sure if unsealed spellbook still gives cdr or not ), but you get the point, you need to have chat timestamps on in your settings and set up the binding to display all chat logs. when someone uses a summoner you ping it asap. then when you've backed and move back to lane you get time to press that binding, look at the timestamp and write things like "adc f 1542 top tp 1625". It's not that easy at first that's why you do that when coming back to lane, you'll only be able to track a few summoners but once you've done it for let's say a week you don't even have to look up your little paper note anymore you'll just know the cooldown by having looked at their runes once before the game starts and pressing tab. It's really useful to know when exactly someone will have his summoner spells up your whole team will benefit from that. It's like playing without the autofocus on your champion, it takes a week or two to get used to it but once that's done it'll make your life easier.

Kei1431 votes

If you have questions about your gameplay, its better to ask gameplay subboards rather than here in player behavior.

Or you can try https://www.leaguecoaching.gg/coaches.php

Yes, other people's behavior can influence your game, but they aren't in every game.

Lynne121 votes

{quoted}

If you have questions about your gameplay, its better to ask gameplay subboards rather than here in player behavior.

Or you can try www.leaguecoaching.gg/coaches.php

Yes, other people's behavior can influence your game, but they aren't in every game.

Oops! Thanks! Kinda guessed on where to put this.

liushui1 votes

play flex until you get gold 5 in flex... then maybe try twisted treelines

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