Player bans in ranked

acc3l3r8t3d··3 votes·1,005 views

In the end game screen, you have the ability to report players for either good or bad behavior. I feel it would be a great ideal in where there is an option in the negative report section to where there are ranked play specific reports. Items like "intentional feeding" are there already. but maybe add in something like "trolling" and/or "uncooperative with team". The strategy of the game has changed a bit since patch 5.21 and more heavily rely's on team play vs individual. It seems a lot of players are not progressing as much as they could due to being paired up with teammates that don't help the team. With the additional reporting choices, they can contribute in two ways.

  1. Create a sub category or reporting for ranked play in which we can target players who are negatively affecting other players ability to climb the ranks.
  2. Create a condition for banning a player from ranked game-play easier.

Ideally this works in the following way; The more ranked specific choices would require less reports to initiate a ban to the player, but the player would only be banned from ranked play, but not normal play. I feel this would serve to let those players who are not being team players learn the lesson that they need to be team players in order for the privilege to play ranked games. If they want to troll around, they can do it in normal's where its not negatively affecting players as much. And they don't get so pissed off that they got banned from the game in total. Of course other report items like "verbal abuse" and such should present any player from a full game ban, cause well that't just wrong.

On a side note, there should be a report, that you can do in which you never get paired with a specific player ever again, but that's probably another discussion. :)

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scazzman1 votes

uncooperative player would punish players who dont use chat. or reforming players who are forced to not type because they dont know what will get them banned and what wont

acc3l3r8t3d1 votes

I disagree. I'm not sure that most people would report "uncooperative" on people who don't chat. Maybe even if they don't ping. Most "uncooperative" reports I know of are about players who don't come to team fights, or respond to pings at all. Example; a laner (not jungler) that is farming a jungle monster while the turret right next to them is under attack from minions or champions. Same goes for a team fight. I all to often see players that are right next to something like those two things and do nothing but farm jungle and let their turret go down for free or don't help in the fight.

scazzman1 votes

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I disagree. I'm not sure that most people would report "uncooperative" on people who don't chat. Maybe even if they don't ping. Most "uncooperative" reports I know of are about players who don't come to team fights, or respond to pings at all. Example; a laner (not jungler) that is farming a jungle monster while the turret right next to them is under attack from minions or champions. Same goes for a team fight. I all to often see players that are right next to something like those two things and do nothing but farm jungle and let their turret go down for free or don't help in the fight.

people in ranked will LOOK for reasons to report you if you're playing poorly. just so you dont end up on their team.

acc3l3r8t3d1 votes

I agree with that comment. People just look for excuses other than themselves. But you do have to put in a description of why the report and i'm pretty sure there is some moderation on them. I mean people can report that a player had "offensive language" even if they didn't type in chat at all. I don't believe they get banned. Isn't there some automated moderation that checks for that stuff?

Dispelle1 votes

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I disagree. I'm not sure that most people would report "uncooperative" on people who don't chat. Maybe even if they don't ping. Most "uncooperative" reports I know of are about players who don't come to team fights, or respond to pings at all. Example; a laner (not jungler) that is farming a jungle monster while the turret right next to them is under attack from minions or champions. Same goes for a team fight. I all to often see players that are right next to something like those two things and do nothing but farm jungle and let their turret go down for free or don't help in the fight.

Actually, I've seen people calling for reports for not speaking. For that very thing, calling it "lack of cooperation." I understand you don't think that this would happen. I'm glad for your sake that you haven't run into it.

Ada Wong1 votes

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uncooperative player would punish players who dont use chat. or reforming players who are forced to not type because they dont know what will get them banned and what wont

Which is true because a lot of my games the other day I had to type /mute all, I had idiot players in my games and I didn't want to type toxic comments not to mention players who abused the ping function pinging and not following up I had to mute everyone to even play the game or try to play the game because the pings were stupid....

So how do you determine not willing to cooperate with a player who has muted everyone because of negative, or toxic behavior.

. If players are going to say in 60 seconds I am coming in when they don't even know what is going to happen in 59 seconds to where they should actually gank or not then this is a problem (It creates a negative experience) and I will mute everyone and turn off my sound.

. If you are going to ping and not follow the 3 second rule I will mute everyone and turn off my sound too...

I have no need to have negative experiences, or ping spams from player showing this, its not as common to happen every game, but it does happen, as well as players who throw off and tilt lanes hard.

Over-All I think Riot needs to come up with better match-making and actually pairing solo queue, and other players with others whom play alike rather than creating a negative experience of sticking passive players with aggressive players bot for example, and people who are strictly following meta with players who don't follow meta etc, if a game or test could match players with such players like a written exam it could result in less toxic match-up's.

acc3l3r8t3d1 votes

I agree with this, but the matchmaking algorithm is not something is is easily created. This post might be focusing too much on the "uncooperative" report. The main focus of this thread was to punish players who are pulling others down in ranked play, but not punishing them so hard they cant play the game at all. Maybe there can be a reporting feature that has two options. 1) like to play with, and 2) dont pair me up with them again. But even then that would only apply to that particular player, It wouldn't be so easy to "group" like players. I guess the closest they could do is categorize people by their "honor initiative" score.

Dispelle1 votes

I've met a number of players who have accused me or others of being uncooperative with the "team" when it was merely me not doing what that person demanded.

"I said to pick leona. Being uncooperative with the team is a pretty bad way to start the game, don't you think?"

"Well 1: you gave a command/order, which I disagreed with because of xyz and thus did not obey. 2: You are one person. One person is not 'the team.'"

That is just one example among many of how "being uncooperative with the team" has been applied on a number of occasions. I can't count how many times disobedience to the directives of one narcissist has been followed with them fuming about the other person being "uncooperative" with "the team." This is such a vague category, especially in non-pro play where individual players have their own opinions about what strategies ought to be used to win a game. If two players disagree, or if two players think one way, two players think another and they all just don't quite agree .... who, exactly, is the "uncooperative" one? How the heck is this reportable?

No, imo this category would be too vague, too broad and too abused by too many egos. Go make a team of people who you are compatible with and who play with the level of skill and map awareness that you are satisfied with.

acc3l3r8t3d1 votes

I can see your logic in this. In my eyes uncooperative is more about team play than it is about typing in chat and or demanding things be done a specific way. Its unfortunate that players will always have something/someone to complain about instead of themselves. But isn't there a QA process before people get banned. I'm pretty sure it has to be proven before a ban goes into effect. Maybe items like "uncooperative" can be weighted. You do have put in a description of why you picked your report choices.

Dispelle1 votes

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I can see your logic in this. In my eyes uncooperative is more about team play than it is about typing in chat and or demanding things be done a specific way. Its unfortunate that players will always have something/someone to complain about instead of themselves. But isn't there a QA process before people get banned. I'm pretty sure it has to be proven before a ban goes into effect. Maybe items like "uncooperative" can be weighted. You do have put in a description of why you picked your report choices.

Yeah, that sounds a lot more like players who just need to find teammates they can synergize with. There are just so many strategies and styles out there and so many possible scenarios that different players are going to end up butting heads with each other bc they disagree on stuff. Short of having an actual designated coach/captain who is calling the shots in a game, I would have difficulty saying that someone is being uncooperative vs just disagreeing or lacking skill/awareness/etc. In blatant cases, it would likely fall under unsportsmanlike conduct anyway, since to be deliberately and visibly uncooperative would generally involve some pretty negative behavior. Again, this would need to be differentiated from lack of map awareness and other signs of unskilled derpitude or simply non-meta stuff.

Consider making an enviable team that ppl want to be on. If others want to be on the team, they have be like [insert qualifying factors here]. If they can't cooperate with how your team does business, they either don't get to join or they get kicked/banned from the team. They should be shown what's expected of them in such-and-such a situation (as in, your team's jungler should not be at a camp right next to a turret where a teamfight is going down). If they're not okay with this, or they don't show the aptitude for avoiding this, they're probably not a good fit. (As for me, I'm a decent support but a retarded jungler. lol)

Not sure if that makes sense.... meh, I'm tired. lol

TrueNoxusMight1 votes

i completely agree with this, i just got out of a game where my friend was sitting on Akali and our support banned her, when we asked why she didnt say anything, so we just assumed she was going to be a troll,and ironicaly she was, she started Bming our entire team and stole kills from our ADC and kept telling the other team to report me and friend because we wouldnt stop talking, if this was a thing im positive she wouldve gotten punished

Dispelle1 votes

What you're talking about sounds a lot like the "unsportsmanlike" report. Especially the person who was talking about the soraka who banned the person's champ and then started calling for false reports, etc. That sort of thing is troll/unsportsmanlike conduct.

I'm totally for not being paired again with someone I've just reported though. I'm not someone who enjoys confrontational stuff, and to be paired with someone I just had a stressful game with is a bit of a troll by the game itself. lol

Lothàrs Edge1 votes

But you're a troll... so how do we fix this?

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