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Opal··1 votes·1,062 views

I got chat restricted because some guy forgot to take smite and I raged about it. First the guy attempts to jungle anyways despite multiple teammates informing him that he'd barely get xp. He finally decides to lane (of course in my lane, mid) and dies repeatedly. I'm certain he didn't get any penalties for his mistake though.

Next game I get a Lux top, my support picks MF, and my adc picks Camille. I come into a game where Lux is randomly mid with me and taking cs, the Camille is top and the MF is alone bot lane. I'm sure that despite me and the jungler being the only ones deciding to play our actual assigned lanes, none of the others were penalized in any way.

Here's the chat log for the lols though. Game 1 In-Game Opal: leave pls Opal: remake Opal: idiot Opal: no you cant Opal: no jungle item = half the xp Opal: you legit cant Opal: just go top Opal: please Opal: dont be even more moronic Opal: now youre just purposely throwing Opal: listen to your team pls Opal: we told you not to do it Opal: you wouldnt even hit lvl 2 off of it Opal: do you know how jungle owrks? Opal: oyu need the fucking item Opal: its not about lacking smite Opal: its the item Opal: you already lost us the gam Opal: might as well Opal: gg Opal: no Opal: youre a troll Opal: fuck you its gg Opal: you have no idea how to play Opal: i dont even care that you made the mistake Opal: its that youre being a fucking moron and trying to jungle still Opal: now hes feeding mid lol Opal: lets just force bot to go mid Opal: says the jungler who gets 2 jungles lmao Opal: id rather just go to the next game than waste a potential hour because this retard cant read his lane Opal: luckily itll see darius is a troll and not care Opal: i do Opal: so suck my dick Opal: the fun of fighting a jungler that has 2 jungles Opal: yea why give the mid farm Opal: literally trolling Opal: gg Opal: yes pls Opal: kayn flash cd 45 Opal: reinstall Post-Game Opal: literally give u free game but youd rather tower dive 3 bot than the free mid

TLDR - I refuse to press the 'I Understand' button because I see it as completely unjustified. Realistically, any decent person would see their mistake and dodge the game or not connect so the rest of the team can move on. Plus karma trolled me, anyways, literally the next game so it's just a double punishment at this point.

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Arisha the Dark5 votes

Yes, he probably didn't get any penalty, because as you said yourself, he did a mistake. Riot does not punish players for making mistakes.

You didn't make a mistake. You made a choice to flame him. And no, it is not his fault you flamed him, it is your fault. That is why you were punished.

Opal1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Arisha the Dark,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=E73eLuAB,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-18T05:42:00.449+0000)

Yes, he probably didn't get any penalty, because as you said yourself, he did a mistake. Riot does not punish players for making mistakes.

You didn't make a mistake. You made a choice to flame him. And no, it is not his fault you flamed him, it is your fault. That is why you were punished.

I could accept his mistake up until he decided to still try to jungle. Multiple people told him how the jungle item works and that he'd get minimal xp without it but he still decided to try to solo red buff lvl 1 and ultimately got ganked and died (looked like he might've died to red regardless). That, to me at least, is the definition of trolling. You just can't spell it out to people sometimes, its ridiculous.

Like most competitive games, you need to react and adapt (granted I failed at this by not giving up my lane the 2nd game). If you make the mistake of forgetting smite, fine, but acknowledge jungling early game has now become basically impossible because any logical enemy jungler will harass you the entire time. Go lane instead. Should be common sense by lvl 30.

Arisha the Dark1 votes

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I could accept his mistake up until he decided to still try to jungle. Multiple people told him how the jungle item works and that he'd get minimal xp without it but he still decided to try to solo red buff lvl 1 and ultimately got ganked and died (looked like he might've died to red regardless). That, to me at least, is the definition of trolling. You just can't spell it out to people sometimes, its ridiculous.

Like most competitive games, you need to react and adapt (granted I failed at this by not giving up my lane the 2nd game). If you make the mistake of forgetting smite, fine, but acknowledge jungling early game has now become basically impossible because any logical enemy jungler will harass you the entire time. Go lane instead. Should be common sense by lvl 30.

If you reported him, system would be the judge of that.

Now we are talking about you. You admitted you flamed, so I don't under why it's surprising to you, you got punished.

Opal1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Arisha the Dark,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=E73eLuAB,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-05-18T05:59:06.731+0000)

If you reported him, system would be the judge of that.

Now we are talking about you. You admitted you flamed, so I don't under why it's surprising to you, you got punished.

Being provoked into raging at a troll vs flaming for no reason. HUGE difference. As I said, any decent person would just dodge or leave the game so we can end the game at 3 minutes. Or, again, if he doesn't want to go that route, then he should play logically and try to win instead of purposely wasting time and angering the team.

Its ultimately a lose lose scenario. Stay in the game and get more and more angry because you have a guy trolling you for no apparent reason, or leave the game so you can move on with your life and not deal with the troll. In both cases I risk being punished because I'm being trolled.

Arisha the Dark2 votes

{quoted}

Being provoked into raging at a troll vs flaming for no reason. HUGE difference. As I said, any decent person would just dodge or leave the game so we can end the game at 3 minutes. Or, again, if he doesn't want to go that route, then he should play logically and try to win instead of purposely wasting time and angering the team.

Its ultimately a lose lose scenario. Stay in the game and get more and more angry because you have a guy trolling you for no apparent reason, or leave the game so you can move on with your life and not deal with the troll. In both cases I risk being punished because I'm being trolled.

Or you can not flame at people. That is also an option.

Also, punish system does account for using being human and raging once on a while. If you punished, it means this match wasn't the only time, it was last drop. You were flaming consistently over many matches. This one was last one you flamed in, so it's in the chat logs.

So don't try to make yourself look like a victim here, you are not. You made a choice to flame, multiple times, instead of just ignoring the troll and playing the game.

EvilxUndertonez1 votes

I had to deal with a jungler a few hours ago who insisted “smite is overrated” when we finally were able to ff, they ended up being level 5 while the rest of us were level 10-13. I break meta all the time and am totally against punishing off meta choices, but deliberately not taking smite as jg should be punishable.

I looked at this persons history, looks like they troll people a lot this way. Nothing will be done about it either, rest assured.

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