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Permbanned after 4 years for this xD

StephGonnaSteph··5 votes·2,693 views

Besides the game 3, games 1 and 2, I was pretty much responding to teammates which happen to be duo/more who were flaming all game. Also got multiple pop ups for offensive language for saying "don't kill him, he's lagging pretty hard" and "i'll let you live since you're lagging as long as your duo doesn't gank me". Even got a pop up for not even saying a single word in a game because we stomped the other team. Same thing happens on my other accounts (ever since dynamic queue), seems like I get reported even for bad games. Anyways, the chats for the games. Game 1 StephGonnaSteph: you do on blue z StephGonnaSteph: and why didnt u guys ban soraka StephGonnaSteph: legit cancer that they almost 2v3 us StephGonnaSteph: bad tp StephGonnaSteph: useless StephGonnaSteph: yes let me run past 10 minions StephGonnaSteph: with a 10% hp vayne StephGonnaSteph: so glad u guys didnt ban soraka StephGonnaSteph: u guys dserve this loss StephGonnaSteph: cant even see who they banned StephGonnaSteph: gg StephGonnaSteph: ff20 StephGonnaSteph: cant farm, cant trade, cant kill StephGonnaSteph: so who did u guys ban? StephGonnaSteph: that 2v3 StephGonnaSteph: congrats ur winning while as a duo on lucian/soraka lol StephGonnaSteph: must be hard lol StephGonnaSteph: xD StephGonnaSteph: and u need camp haha StephGonnaSteph: typical baddies StephGonnaSteph: 4? StephGonnaSteph: np StephGonnaSteph: ur the one typing in all chat lol StephGonnaSteph: yep because we sure can push StephGonnaSteph: if u guys banned soraka this would be free game StephGonnaSteph: u dotn leave sorka and lucian up StephGonnaSteph: 0 burst StephGonnaSteph: vs soraka StephGonnaSteph: same StephGonnaSteph: picks ez pick StephGonnaSteph: mid* StephGonnaSteph: dont matter StephGonnaSteph: we hve no burst StephGonnaSteph: vs soraka StephGonnaSteph: lol StephGonnaSteph: ur plat 5 StephGonnaSteph: ur pretty bad StephGonnaSteph: u picked ez mid StephGonnaSteph: againist soraka StephGonnaSteph: doesnt matter if u win lane StephGonnaSteph: we cnat win team fights StephGonnaSteph: lmao StephGonnaSteph: cant win a team fight cuz ur straight bad StephGonnaSteph: dont kno how to pick a mid StephGonnaSteph: u have fervor StephGonnaSteph: on a poke mid StephGonnaSteph: lmao StephGonnaSteph: pro StephGonnaSteph: nobody is duo StephGonnaSteph: lmao StephGonnaSteph: but we're not... StephGonnaSteph: omg i died once StephGonnaSteph: omg i died once, let me bitch StephGonnaSteph: ur pretty bad fizz Responding to teammates while the enemy team has a toxic duo smurfs talking in all chat. Game 2 StephGonnaSteph: gj StephGonnaSteph: no ward StephGonnaSteph: gg ur duo StephGonnaSteph: dotn know how to ward StephGonnaSteph: gg ur duo cant ward StephGonnaSteph: blitz stole camp StephGonnaSteph: lmao StephGonnaSteph: u cant mid StephGonnaSteph: so overextened StephGonnaSteph: 0 wards StephGonnaSteph: looks like ur tilted StephGonnaSteph: must suck losing to a gold 4 viktor StephGonnaSteph: u mean u got ganked StephGonnaSteph: cuz u didnt ward StephGonnaSteph: ur tilted man StephGonnaSteph: ask xwx for a refund StephGonnaSteph: for ur elo boost StephGonnaSteph: dotn worry we're gonan report u tf StephGonnaSteph: bitched all game last game StephGonnaSteph: lmao StephGonnaSteph: and lux StephGonnaSteph: did u not see lblitz stela camp? StephGonnaSteph: cuz mf didnt ward the bush? StephGonnaSteph: so i had to stay in jungle? StephGonnaSteph: i cant gank StephGonnaSteph: lvl 1 StephGonnaSteph: ... StephGonnaSteph: and tf is bitching about me not ganking StephGonnaSteph: no shit. im lvl 1 StephGonnaSteph: dotn worry StephGonnaSteph: ggwp report tf pls. bitching and crying since he died once StephGonnaSteph: but my butff wasnt stolen... StephGonnaSteph: raging? StephGonnaSteph: i simple said, i cant gank cuz ur duo didnt ward and my camp got stolen StephGonnaSteph: lol StephGonnaSteph: after u bitched all game StephGonnaSteph: ur standing in lane not moving lol StephGonnaSteph: look at tf, he's stnading in lane lol StephGonnaSteph: not omving chatting awya Responding to teammate once again (chose fill and got jungle), level 1 camp got invaded on and didn't get level 2. Couldn't clear and had to base while still level 1, behind rest of game. Mid lane gets ganked once and starts to complain that I didn't gank. Explaining that I can't gank because I'm behind because my camp got stolen because his duo didn't ward when I asked him to. Game 3 StephGonnaSteph: get heal StephGonnaSteph: wtf StephGonnaSteph: are u stupid StephGonnaSteph: dumbass alistar StephGonnaSteph: ff StephGonnaSteph: im low and u get w 2nd lmao StephGonnaSteph: pick alistra when im mf StephGonnaSteph: lmao StephGonnaSteph: im sitting behind the minions StephGonnaSteph: alistar is just useles StephGonnaSteph: its a 1v2 lane StephGonnaSteph: u dont pick alistar StephGonnaSteph: when im mf StephGonnaSteph: free kills all game bot, 0 wards and they pushed up if ali can land a combo StephGonnaSteph: so how many of u are queue'd up with this ali StephGonnaSteph: so that's one StephGonnaSteph: 0 wards asnd going for dragon while they tkae top StephGonnaSteph: smart StephGonnaSteph: zzz StephGonnaSteph: wow StephGonnaSteph: gg StephGonnaSteph: gg alistar Okay, this game was definitely my bad. Straight tilted. I'm low, we get level 2 and Alistar doesn't level heal. Proceeds to constantly headbutt people to save them or to get me killed. And he has a duo who's telling me to stop dying when Alistar is doing nothing as support and getting me killed. (Dying at our own tower or behind it without the enemy's jungler ganking, just losing 2v2). All 3 games, dynamic queue with at least duos on my team. Welcome to dynamic queue. Getting permabanned for this? I mean, there is a mute button. If there was no mute button, then that would be different but if someone is so toxic that you can't stand it, why not just mute? Yet, if someone is trolling, I have to deal with it? Makes sense. If players are toxic, just tell players to use the mute function (it is there for a reason) or mute our chat and don't let us talk. You are teaching people to not say anything and be a snitch. In real life, if you have a problem, you confront the situation. Probably seen this example in job questionnaires, if your co-worker is slacking off, do you let them know about it or go to the manager? You don't go to the manager, you let them know about it. Same here, someone is slacking off, you let them know about it. Someone is talking, you reply. Don't like what they got to say, walk away aka mute.

And look at this http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/EaAcnWn7-just-got-banned-14-days-heres-why-auto-detection-systems-dont-work

51 Comments

ReadyxPlayerxOne7 votes

You've played for four years and are suprised you got banned??? Did you even read the chat logs?

You think ANY of the below is acceptable? Have you never heard of moral? Have you never played a game with friends? In that game did you complain the whole time about how bad your team mates are? And how they lost before they even got 5 minutes into what usually is a 30-40 minute game?

It's hard to come back in Summoners Rift. Hard, not impossible. Like many sports, there's room for that team come back in the final seconds of the game but I'm sure that the leaders of those teams that do come back aren't telling their team mates how bad they are. My guess is they're positive and trying to inspire them to conquer what seems like the impossible.

You however... choose to do this... and should be banned for it:

StephGonnaSteph: u guys dserve this loss StephGonnaSteph: cant win a team fight cuz ur straight bad StephGonnaSteph: ur pretty bad

StephGonnaSteph: get heal StephGonnaSteph: wtf StephGonnaSteph: are u stupid StephGonnaSteph: dumbass alistar StephGonnaSteph: ff StephGonnaSteph: im low and u get w 2nd lmao StephGonnaSteph: pick alistra when im mf StephGonnaSteph: lmao StephGonnaSteph: im sitting behind the minions StephGonnaSteph: alistar is just useles StephGonnaSteph: its a 1v2 lane StephGonnaSteph: u dont pick alistar StephGonnaSteph: when im mf StephGonnaSteph: free kills all game bot, 0 wards and they pushed up if ali can land a combo StephGonnaSteph: so how many of u are queue'd up with this ali StephGonnaSteph: so that's one StephGonnaSteph: 0 wards asnd going for dragon while they tkae top StephGonnaSteph: smart StephGonnaSteph: zzz StephGonnaSteph: wow StephGonnaSteph: gg StephGonnaSteph: gg alistar

Samus726 votes

Did you play the game at all? That's a lot of chat.

StephGonnaSteph1 votes

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Did you play the game at all? That's a lot of chat.

no, i didn't play the game.

game 1 - i was in base healing after getting poked out every time i went to lane game 2 - i was behind in the jungle then elise ganked everyone including me. had no where to go since they had control of both sides of the jungle and took our outside towers already game 3 - i think i had the grey screen bug?

these were all stomps, like 2 kills to 20 in 15 minutes type stomps and i probably had the best score (not saying that matters) while being highest level or same as others on our team. except for the last game, i think i had a grey screen bug every 2-3 minutes.

alasarcher6 votes

You are insulting people for what they pick. What gives u right to tell people what they can or cannot pick? Acting like everyones boss, u deserve perma ban. You are just one of those players who cant admit that he is bad or his fails, but turns to flaming and blaming teammates.

StephGonnaSteph1 votes

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You are insulting people for what they pick. What gives u right to tell people what they can or cannot pick? Acting like everyones boss, u deserve perma ban. You are just one of those players who cant admit that he is bad or his fails, but turns to flaming and blaming teammates.

Yep I'm bad with a constant 55-60% win rate. Telling players what they can or cannot pick? It's a team game...

DrCyanide7 votes

Yes, it's a team game, so why aren't you acting like a team player? Harping on a mistake made earlier will not help you win later.

Twink Lover 695 votes

Can we ban this guy twice? Whiny, annoying, and child-like attitude. Also does not possess the ability to see what he did was wrong. Please don't dirty up the community with more of this toxicity.

Lauchmelder4 votes

"There is a mute button." There also is the possibility to, you know, not flame?

Good to know the system works.

StephGonnaSteph2 votes

besides game 3, u call that flame? and even that was like for a few seconds. sorry, i knew people were sensitive but not that sensitive

Lauchmelder3 votes

Yes it is flame. You basically whine all game long just because they didn't ban Soraka in game one. Casual advice: Shut up and play to the best of your abilities, you might win.

StephGonnaSteph1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MadKnife IV,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BtnVR4pr,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-01-19T12:22:57.060+0000)

Yes it is flame. You basically whine all game long just because they didn't ban Soraka in game one. Casual advice: Shut up and play to the best of your abilities, you might win.

I have a 54% win rate in plat (still low elo to me), reached high plat with 55% win rate until recently. Pretty sure I know how to win.

As far as Soraka, I was replying to the fact that me and Vayne can't do nothing against it. We can't trade because they have Lucian/Soraka against Morgana/Vayne. Can't all in because we don't have enough damage to burst through the Lucian before Soraka heals constantly nor reach Soraka because she's way back. Vayne can't farm because Lucian is playing aggressive and chunking every time Vayne goes for CS. We have a Fizz jungle against to their Elise, both pre 6 so even a 3v3 we would lose. Me and Vayne, not duo were saying the same thing.

Lauchmelder2 votes

How to trade against Soraka: Hit Soraka and not her ADC

StephGonnaSteph1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MadKnife IV,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BtnVR4pr,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-19T12:46:01.450+0000)

How to trade against Soraka: Hit Soraka and not her ADC

How to play Soraka: stay behind your ADC and let your ADC do the trading while you heal from far back. if you're playing against a Soraka that is constantly getting hit, then they aren't playing Soraka properly. Watch pros play Soraka. You play back, not up where you can get hit. And if you run to chase the Soraka, the ADC is just gonna kill you or out trade you since you can't reach Soraka in the back.

PROJECT Fizz2 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

Maybe you do know how to win... but you did NOTHING to educate or share that knowledge with your team mates.

FoodMalfax3 votes

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besides game 3, u call that flame? and even that was like for a few seconds. sorry, i knew people were sensitive but not that sensitive

That chat log is the very definition of flaming and excessively negative behavior. Take any definition on toxic behavior and this applies to all accounts. I know i may sound rough, but this is how i see it and i see no point in sugarcoating because I don't wanna treat you like a child. You report called, surrender called, flamed and played the blame game. Also nowhere in the Summoner's Code is it ever stated of a certain meta like for example you calling Ezreal for playing Fervor. Everyone is allowed to use whatever build path they want as long as they don't intentionally feed and try to some degree to play the game and contribute , even if only a little. On a second note , a permanent ban/temporary ban/ chat ban is never issued for just one game. Your games , just as everyone else's games are monitored for at least 9 months now and recorded. You weren't issued this harsh punishment for just this one game, you had previous infractions or your latest games have been so toxic that it just waranted this punishment. When you have nothing good to say, don't say anything at all. Third point, you simply cannot win every game, even LCS pros barely float between 60% -70% winrate, it is part of the game, it's just how it always was and there is absolutely nothing whatsoever that you can do about it, you can only shrug and move on to the next game and leave it all behind you. It is often better t just shut up and cooperate with your teammates even in losing conditions because you may still have a chance the enemy team will misplay something that will lead you to have a chance at winning. I mean , i understand you somewhat, I rage too sometimes over people just being plainly stupid or trolls, but i just choose not to talk AT ALL then, because nothing i can say will ever help, ever. But you were consistently negative and aggressive about it. So, take this with a pinch of salt, make an appeal on the report system on the website and hope that your punishment will get lowered. IF it happens to be by a chance , expect a maybe lowering to 2 weeks and chat restriction in the hundreds of games range. Good luck and be cool.

Viavarian3 votes

While games 1 and 2 aren't that bad, it should be clear that you can't afford any type of negative chat when you already had a prior 14-day ban.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

Aren't that bad? He continually berates his team mates in a manner that's completely negative while offering no help to these players or a strategy to improve the teams game play. RIOT uses the policy of "don't be a jerk" as the grand design of their player behavior systems. This guy was obviously being a "jerk".

Horse Grenades3 votes

Bro, you're so toxic. Does it not get exhausting constantly typing and not playing?

Anomander3 votes

Your very negative. You whine and complain all game. You constantly blame your team. While one instance of this would not get you banned. You have already had a 10 game and 25 game chat restriction and a 14 day ban. All around your just mean to your team. And I say good riddance.

Maximum Morde2 votes

Bye.

GRVet3ran0sS2 votes

Well i got banned from just one game where the only thing i said was "report the x player" it skipped the 14 days ban straight to perma.diamond 3 with 100€ spent on this account xd.i guess the rukes about toxicity habe changed the past few months,everything is possible.

FoodMalfax3 votes

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Well i got banned from just one game where the only thing i said was "report the x player" it skipped the 14 days ban straight to perma.diamond 3 with 100€ spent on this account xd.i guess the rukes about toxicity habe changed the past few months,everything is possible.

Report calling was considered bannable for a very long time now and it's rather harshly punished.

GRVet3ran0sS2 votes

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Report calling was considered bannable for a very long time now and it's rather harshly punished.

Ye ik but i didnt know it was that harsh to skip the 14days ban still mb

FoodMalfax1 votes

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Ye ik but i didnt know it was that harsh to skip the 14days ban still mb

Well honestly can't say how bad it was or if other factors from the previous games were also in play. Also a while back , roughly around the launch of the new system , the punishments were rather excessive for a while , probably to set a example. You maybe still have a chance to ticket for it? Who knows.

GRVet3ran0sS1 votes

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Well honestly can't say how bad it was or if other factors from the previous games were also in play. Also a while back , roughly around the launch of the new system , the punishments were rather excessive for a while , probably to set a example. You maybe still have a chance to ticket for it? Who knows.

I did but they insist that this kind of behavior isn't acceptable in this community but they say i am free to create a new account

FoodMalfax1 votes

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I did but they insist that this kind of behavior isn't acceptable in this community but they say i am free to create a new account

Well, that sucks.

StephGonnaSteph3 votes

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Report calling was considered bannable for a very long time now and it's rather harshly punished.

It is? Everyone does it, either in game or after game in lobby.

FoodMalfax1 votes

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It is? Everyone does it, either in game or after game in lobby.

Yeah, it is, and rather harshly punished, particularly if repeated over multiple games, and it also falls it the negative behavior report category along with surrender calling and playing the blame game( which arguably is more of a contextual thing and generally referred to simply negative behavior). Anyways at this point , your only chance lies with a support ticket and try to explain the situation and ask for mercy/leniency in the most polite way you can. If you do it even passively aggressively in any way, you can forget you ever had this account. As for other people and report calling, just report them after and never say you are doing it in the future. Your post here on the forums will not bring any help, it's merely for conversational/ doing a debate purposes. Just do a ticket , and wait for a few days upwards to ~ one week for a response. Good luck and i hope you learned a lesson.

StephGonnaSteph1 votes

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Yeah, it is, and rather harshly punished, particularly if repeated over multiple games, and it also falls it the negative behavior report category along with surrender calling and playing the blame game( which arguably is more of a contextual thing and generally referred to simply negative behavior). Anyways at this point , your only chance lies with a support ticket and try to explain the situation and ask for mercy/leniency in the most polite way you can. If you do it even passively aggressively in any way, you can forget you ever had this account. As for other people and report calling, just report them after and never say you are doing it in the future. Your post here on the forums will not bring any help, it's merely for conversational/ doing a debate purposes. Just do a ticket , and wait for a few days upwards to ~ one week for a response. Good luck and i hope you learned a lesson.

I have multiple accounts so it isn't the end of the world. but this is one of the accounts I play on more often and had longer (since season 2). Just seeing how easy it is to get reported/banned is what I'm worried about for talking. I've ran into people saying "I'm trolling because someone is streaming" in game, few games in a row yet they don't even get banned or punished (been about 1-2 weeks now and they still playing ranked).

I remember playing with a Riot employee (RiotJonStein) on another account a long long time ago and I said, "can we group / someone ward that " and he said that it was considered passive aggressive. I'm like, ugh... how else am I suppose to say it. He says, I'm not sure, just felt that you were being passive aggressive and if the community disagrees, you'll be fine. How is there suppose to be teamwork if you can't even type things like that?

Bettnachleger1 votes

bla bla bla You can type things like that without being worried of a restriction or what ever.

Or how would you explain, that only like 5 % of the community ever get a restriction. (and most of them change their behaviour after the first or second chat restriction, so that they never get a restriction again) I would say ... most of the community know how to behave, and only write things like that (or nothing at all).

FoodMalfax1 votes

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I have multiple accounts so it isn't the end of the world. but this is one of the accounts I play on more often and had longer (since season 2). Just seeing how easy it is to get reported/banned is what I'm worried about for talking. I've ran into people saying "I'm trolling because someone is streaming" in game, few games in a row yet they don't even get banned or punished (been about 1-2 weeks now and they still playing ranked).

I remember playing with a Riot employee (RiotJonStein) on another account a long long time ago and I said, "can we group / someone ward that " and he said that it was considered passive aggressive. I'm like, ugh... how else am I suppose to say it. He says, I'm not sure, just felt that you were being passive aggressive and if the community disagrees, you'll be fine. How is there suppose to be teamwork if you can't even type things like that?

Honestly, you do have a point, but still, it has been an exceedingly old issue on this game and the way i see it, it all stems from the fact that Riot acted way too late in controlling this phenomenon. Honestly , my best recommendation is simply mute everyone at the start of the game after you have told your teammates that you are doing so, so that they know to ping you when they need help. Trying to engage in ANY kind of debate never goes well, and sometimes the current community is so damn sensitive you can't even say the most harmless of jokes. Like really. So no good can ever come out of it. My second advice and probably the best advice I can possibly offer to you ( particularly if you don't wanna mute them ) is to talk ingame for STRICTLY game related matters like calling jungle timers, MIA, etc and maybe and ONLY a good job after a successful team fight and ignore absolutely everything else that can draw you again in this situation. You personally have to realize this, if someone makes a bad engage as a jungler for example, then they still keep with it and die, it's not your fault and you don't have to justify anything. Hell, you don't have to say anything to him at all. Just let him boil in his own juices behind his screen, trust me , most of the people that blame are craving for the second you give them the chance to start a fight. Denying that is the ultimate insult added to injury. It basically equals to you setting your personality a step above these types of players, and differentiating yourself from them. Now i won't be the hypocrite to say this solves anything, it's merely my view on how you can begin to step aside from this stigma. What you want to do in the end is entirely your choice and will respect it regardless, but maybe not always agree to it ( pls don't be a psycho!) :D. P.S. Sorry for Englanderino, not a native english speaker and the walls of text.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

He doesn't have a point. His OP isn't subjective. There's BLATANT points where he is hateful toward his team and belittles their gameplay and strategy without ever attempting to help them understand how to play better.

His point about that ONE instance of a subjective argument where some notice the comment as passive aggressive given the context and others do not does not apply to his OP. It's irrelevant to his argument. If all we saw up there was "group up please, ward here, can you gank top sometimes soon?" then there'd be a point... but that ISN'T what he said.

FoodMalfax1 votes

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He doesn't have a point. His OP isn't subjective. There's BLATANT points where he is hateful toward his team and belittles their gameplay and strategy without ever attempting to help them understand how to play better.

His point about that ONE instance of a subjective argument where some notice the comment as passive aggressive given the context and others do not does not apply to his OP. It's irrelevant to his argument. If all we saw up there was "group up please, ward here, can you gank top sometimes soon?" then there'd be a point... but that ISN'T what he said.

Seriously, are you blind? Quote me on a SINGLE comment/phrase/word where i condoned his actions. I have posted 4-5 comments here replied directly to him, saying from the get go, that he DESERVED it. So I fail to see the point of your rant addressed to me. I merely was trying to be that one understanding guy here that shows just that minimum amount of respect and sympathy while also clearly stating he was 100% in the wrong. I also tried to give him some advice for the future, whether he takes the advice or not , that is his business, i did what i could. I mean , seriously, what would you have me do? Join the lynch mob that usually lurks on these forums? Do you also want me to get my pitchfork, rope and torch and hatefully jump on his ass? Isn't the boards community already saturated enough with that bullshit? Do you people only understand one of two types of conversation, either really angry talking or sweet talking? I was trying to maintain a neutral stance on it and talk it out and explain like grown up men do, that's all. I also fail to see how a simple phrase taken out of context like "can we group/someone ward that" can be seen as passive aggressive. Keyword:CAN. It's all in the context after all, and i will not try to go any further into it since i wasn't there to see for myself nor will I try to debate this further based on merely hearsay. And let's be really honest here, some of this new generation is so sensitive you would be afraid to even walk past them on the street because they may erupt in scream of pain that the mere air you pushed their way has hurt them. It all stems from the fact that Riot chose to take the "Parent the player" stance instead of "Empowering the player" stance and also failed to react to the problem of the community turning toxic in time. Don't get me wrong i seriously dislike this kind of behavior and the players that do it, but that doesn't stop me from giving people the chance to explain themselves and give them an honest and fair answer with no hate or "witchhunting" flavor added. After all the only thing I acknowledged about his points was the Rioter case.

Last idea: Don't you find it ironic that you post almost on every player behavior post in such an aggressive manner? I mean, I saw you on multiple posts repeatedly trying to debunk any statements they had without giving it any real judgement. Being so passive aggressive about it makes me wonder, what's the difference between them and you?

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

You're using an example of behavior that doesn't apply to what you did in your OP. It's irrelevant.

alasarcher4 votes

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It is? Everyone does it, either in game or after game in lobby.

Not everyone does it.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

Everyone? Really? Your detailed and thorough statistical analysis of this kind of event seems flawed...

Jorencice1 votes

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Well i got banned from just one game where the only thing i said was "report the x player" it skipped the 14 days ban straight to perma.diamond 3 with 100€ spent on this account xd.i guess the rukes about toxicity habe changed the past few months,everything is possible.

U did not get a perma ban for 1 game. That's a flat out lie.

Post your reform card in another thread.

GRVet3ran0sS1 votes

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U did not get a perma ban for 1 game. That's a flat out lie.

Post your reform card in another thread.

Already did

Horse Grenades1 votes

I call BS. Post your reform card and if that's true I will reimburse your money. Lol

GRVet3ran0sS1 votes

[{quoted}](name=ApocaIypse Meow,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BtnVR4pr,comment-id=00040002,timestamp=2016-01-19T16:59:45.978+0000)

I call BS. Post your reform card and if that's true I will reimburse your money. Lol

I will be more than happy to hear that,you can see my past threads,cba to send screenshot right now im from phone

Horse Grenades1 votes

Wait, I'm talking to OP. lol

Hunts and Dips2 votes

This is you every game with your team mates....

http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Monkey_16b83c_507120.gif

I would find a different game, maybe one made for one player since you seem like you cannot function in a team environment. I hear Solitaire is fun.

shyv2 votes

you type so much holy shit. do you actually play the game at all or do you just bitch at your teammates and hope that enough bitching will make them perform well enough to carry you.

pro tip: raging at your team actually just makes them do worse

PIMPSMOOTH2 votes

http://dormroomonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/whyYouAlwaysLying_DormRoomTV.jpg

Kei1431 votes

such passive aggressiveness ...

and you wonder why the system is working against you .. LEGITIMATELY

you had 3 chances to reform, didn't learn from any of them. Now you come to us and scream after you got permabanned.

Also, 2 wrongs don't make a right. If they are trolling you, they'll get their punishment. You'll get yours as well if you retaliated in a passive aggressive manner.

You don't have to respond to them if they are trolling you, you can also work on something else in game to make you enjoy other things. Such as "guess where the enemy is in fog of war" game.

Dominick Destine1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Colgate Gator1 votes

Looks like the system took its sweet time dealing with you, if anything it should be finetuned in that regard.

ModPrandine

You can defend yourself so long as it's done in a respectful manner, and from what I saw in all 3 games, you were not being respectful, you were being a jerk. Also, one player acting up doesn't mean that you can act up as well. In situations like that it's better to have just one angry person raging into blank space then have you give them what they want and rage back at them there. Also, the mute button is not a "get out of jail free" card-when you force someone to mute you, that means that the damage has already been done.

From Understanding the Tribunal:

1) What's the point of having a language filter if I can get banned for 'adult' language? a) We aren't out to punish players who use adult language; in fact, very few players are ever banned for saying stuff like "f***, I missed that skill shot" or "damn, fing close game!" However, the language filter is not an excuse to verbally abuse someone in the game. When you verbally abuse or harass someone by calling them "fing *****" or "ngger noob", that's when you've crossed the line and will be punished by the Tribunal. I've said this before and I'll say it again, we aren't trying to clean online games of adult language; we're trying to reform or get rid of jerks who like to verbally abuse and harass other players.

4) That player in my game was far worse than me. Why am I banned??? a) I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic player by being toxic just incites that player to be even worse--it also ruins the game for up to 8 other players. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all game than it is to watch 1 player ranting into blank space. Almost everyone in the game can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our players. What players often don't realize is... those other players in your game that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those players were banned even before you were. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be banned. It's really that simple.

From Ulanopo's Knowledge Base:

People who report are simply being oversensitive. The mute button exists for a reason.”

Let’s start with the Riot quote on this (link (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=30696571#post30696571)): Why is verbal abuse punishable if there is a mute button/language filter? Players shouldn’t need to rely on features like the mute button or language filter to engage with other players in positive ways. When a player verbally abuses another player and forces him to use the mute button, they have already created a negative experience for that player.

Simply put, Riot says no. You can scream and cry all you want, but it is their house and their rules.

With that out of the way, I think the topic deserves some further discussion. The theory is that, if people resolved to care less, then they would be happier. I often refer to this as “Argument from Stoicism” and I think it is a fairly weak philosophy because it places the burden on the person being expected to endure the behavior rather than the person exhibiting the behavior. “You should be able to handle it” is just a flimsy excuse for being a bully or a jerk. I have to be the bigger man so that you can do whatever you want? That hardly seems fair.

There is also the issue of how I spend my limited free time. Like most people, I am constantly required to make value judgments between the different forms of entertainment that are available to me and, let's be honest, we live in an age of nearly limitless entertainment options. If I'm having a bad day in League, I can just fire up Steam and play a whole bunch of games that don't require me to put up with someone's BS.

This is not an issue of weakness or thin-skin; it's a question of choosing activities that don't leave me feeling frustrated and angry. Too many of those experiences and I'll just find something else to do. Riot knows this.

EDITED 18 JULY 2014

“If you kids report and punish things like this, you’re going to be in trouble when you get out in the real world.”

This is a subset of the oversensitivity argument, but I feel it warrants separate treatment.

You're making the highly unwarranted assumption that the people who punish for "noob" lack real-world experiences. If you were to ask the TBI regulars, you would find that almost all of us are at least in their late 20's, if not significantly older. Most of us have at least undergraduate degrees. So, this idea that we're all naive little children is more than a little silly.

Also, we know that professional players dislike people who spend their time typing because math. Not only are the report rates for the highest tiers not significantly lower than anywhere else (this from Lyte), but the pros know how that kind of behavior affects play. Someone who is on tilt is throwing the game just as much as the person who is playing poorly.

The truth of the matter is that the loose cannons end up having their misbehavior overshadow their skill. Look at Dennis Rodman. There has never been a better rebounder. Ever. But his legacy is not that he was basically a human vacuum. No, it's that he was out of control, both on and off the court.

In short, this is a stupid argument if you know anything about the people who are reporting and punishing you.

“I should be allowed to speak however I like to people who started it or are griefing me.” “I was provoked or taunted. I should be allowed to defend myself.” “Why did you vote to punish me when others were behaving worse?”

You should know that Riot specifically instructs jurors to ignore most of the conduct of people in a case other than the accused. The reason for this is rather simple: rather than one person causing trouble, you now have two –or more. In my more cynical moments, I have phrased it thus:

Timmy, Tommy and Sarah are trapped in an elevator. Timmy loses his temper and soils himself. Tommy gets angry at the smell and decides to retaliate by soiling himself. Now Sarah is trapped with two smelly idiots. Don’t be Timmy or Tommy. Stop ****ing your pants.

An informal poll of the Tribunal regulars shows that most jurors are willing to excuse a certain amount of response to someone who is attacking you, but that it isn’t considered an excuse for you to become toxic in response. You get MAYBE one or two lines of response. Anything more than that and you’re part of the problem.

From Lyte (link (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=27540071#post27540071)):

We strongly believe that it is not OK to retaliate. If a player refuses to cooperate and says something negative, then players should ignore the player and report them after the game. Players can ignore or mute players by pressing the “Mute” button on the Scoreboard [when you hit TAB] in the game.

Emphasis mine.

And just in case you try to bring it up, here's Lyte on dunkey's ban:

**What do you think about vgdunkey's ban? **

It's really unfortunate. Many Rioters love Dunkey's content, and I've unloaded my share of "Not even close babyyyyy" jokes around the office; however, we really can't show favoritism to someone just because they are a pro or a known content creator. This isn't really a debate about whether trashtalking is OK or not OK in games; we've talked a lot in the past about how we're OK with players bantering with their friends but you should be careful when interacting with strangers who may not understand your intentions--especially if you're using hate speech or slurs. We have a zero tolerance policy against hate speech, racism, homophobia, and sexism and that policy stands whether you're a random player, a pro player, or a Youtube celebrity.

This also really wasn't a case about intentional feeders and whether it's OK to be toxic towards other toxic players--there wasn't even a Malphite in the game that got him banned and either way, retaliation just isn't OK because it makes the experience worse for everyone else in the game.

We know that players have been asking us to be more aggressive against intentional feeders for awhile, and it has taken us a bit longer than we'd like. We do consider gameplay toxicity just as serious as verbal toxicity, and are launching a new Intentional Feeder Detection system in 5.18 that can ban feeders within 15 minutes of matches. We're starting with conservative settings to make sure the system would not ban players for having the rare bad game, even if it was a 0-10 type of bad game but this is a great first step to aggressively tackling intentional feeders.

At the end of the day, this incident sucks for everyone. We respect that Dunkey hasn't posted his Reform Card, and I'm not going to post it either. Best wishes to him in the future.

P.S. You were permabanned because you failed to reform after receiving at least 35-games worth of chat restrictions and a 2-week ban as well. In order to drop down 1 punishment tier you have to show at least 3 months of genuine reform effort, which in this case you did not.

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