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Permabanned?.

Chrisanderson7··3 votes·1,142 views

Chrisanderson7

Okay. So, I've been playing league of legends for 4 years now? Since the end of season 1. I've spent well over a thousand dollars on multiple accounts, and for sure upwards of 600$ on this account let me say again, upwards of 600$. Now, i just recently got through a 2 week ban, and then almost immediately got banned permanently. If i recall back in the day i read something that said after a 2 week ban you also receive 2 separate 4 week bans. While i can admit i get angry and may be a little bit toxic. i was taking it way less seriously because i assumed i had more of a safety net to fall back on before i got permanently banned. I have heard about people getting chat banned for thousands of games, why did i never receive a punishment like that, if anything, it would actually help to reform. Instead i only got account bans, and the second i get unbanned i'm in nothing but a salty mood and i'm just even more angry having been banned recently. The famous youtuber Shacclone was chat restricted for almost 3 thousand future games. Would such a thing be better for me? Instead of permanently banning my account that i have spent again, over 600$ on. I've been playing this game for years, and only recently fell back into negative behavior, and again, i was not taking me ban as seriously as i should have, because i thought i had more wiggle room, although i know it's never good to be toxic, i was figuring that i'd have more chances. I am not saying my behavior is okay, And i'm not saying that i deserve to just get off scott free. But what i am saying is, why can i not be chat restricted for longer, instead of being permanently banned. I know you guys will probably say the same things and that i've been given chances, But we are also talking about hundreds and hundreds of dollars just wasted, when i could just as easily be chat restricted, for well, frankly the rest of my life. Hopefully i get an actual human and not just a chat robot. And i hope that we can resolve this in a different way, because like i said, 600$ is alot to just disappear out of the blue. Had i gotten one notice saying "If you are reported one more time, you will be permanently banned" i would have immediately realized i was this close to the edge, and would have changed. I hope we can come up with some other solution, Thank you for your time.

P.s. I know, I'm bad sometimes. But overall, for having my account for a few years, I'm not bad THAT often. Do you not think being permanently banned is a little harsh?. Can I not just transfer over my purchase to a new account?. Which I will obviously make one. And what's the point in permanently banning me, it doesn't REFORM anything.! It just makes me angrier and forces me to make a smurf on which I'll just be angry and more toxic. Not to say I haven't had many chances, but my point is. Everyone needs that one last chance to realize, holy crap I need to quit. Or if anything. Permanent chat ban. But taking away my account that ive spent over 600$ on?. That's messed up riot. It really is...

21 Comments

Deep Terror Nami9 votes

If i recall back in the day i read something that said after a 2 week ban you also receive 2 separate 4 week bans.

Sorry, no. It's a permaban after the 14 day. Steps are as follows;

  • 10 game chat restriction
  • 25 game chat restriction
  • 14 day account ban
  • Permanent account ban

Typically it goes in order one at a time, but extremely toxic behavior may result in skipping steps. It also takes 3 months for your tier to drop 1 step (i.e. 3 months after getting a 14 day ban your next punishment is a 14 day again instead of a perma).

You're expected to reform before they are forced to permaban you. You might think it's messed up, but you had several chances to change, yet continued to be a problem to other players. As for getting a different punishment, Riot will not change a punishment unless it was in error, and they also do not give permanent chat restrictions.

If getting permabanned really means you're just going to go be toxic on a smurf, you're hurting yourself more than anyone else. You'll only end up losing those accounts too, proving that a temporary punishment was never going to work on you. Prove yourself to be better than that and enjoy the game without ruining it for others.

o Maui o1 votes

I just want to add that the stacking chat restrictions OP refers to did happen... a pretty long time ago. The current system has been in place for a while, and a two-week ban definitely comes with a notification that the next punishment will be a permanent ban.

DarkBillyBoy1 votes

On another account it took me only 3 weeks to drop 1 step. not 3 months. edit: could have also been 2 weeks. dont remember. but it was 2-3 weeks for sure. I had gottenks 25 chat restricted games twice in a month.

MasterSomething1 votes

Then you reformed faster than others. The general time for reform is 3 months, but that does not mean it is set like that.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

It is definitely set like that, there's no "reform faster". There was either an error or special case, but that's not how the system works now so it may have also been prior to the new system.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

How long ago was this? The system I'm describing started near the end of last season. You didn't drop any steps in 3 weeks with the new system unless there was another special case.

DarkBillyBoy1 votes

ok i checked it with from my email this time. 28/9/15 i get 25 chat restricted games. 15/11/15 i get 10 chat restricted games.

DarkBillyBoy1 votes

so was this before or after system changed ?

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Both. They reset all chat restrictions when they introduced the new system.

DarkBillyBoy1 votes

but these chat restrictions were from the new system. i was in the 2nd punishment tier with 25 chat restricted games, and 1.5 month later i received 10 crg. i dropped 2 steps in 1.5 month! not 6...

ModWulf Helhammer6 votes

I've spent well over a thousand dollars on multiple accounts, and for sure upwards of 600$ on this account let me say again, upwards of 600$

Oh this is just precious. You actually think that means something regarding your behavior

dagurr2 votes

the reason why this community is toxic

Icy Hot Shoto2 votes

First off, Riot doesn't care if you spend money. You will get banned if you're toxic enough as well as get reported fro it. Buying RP doesn't give you ANY leeway at all. You get the same punishment as someone who's paid nothing.

Secondly, where'd you hear the '2, seperate 4 week ban' thing? That's wrong and the person lied. Your banned in tiers.

  • 10 game chat restriction
  • 25 game chat restriction
  • 14 day ban
  • Permanent ban

It is also possible to skip the chat restrictions if you're toxic enough. Racial slurs and hate speech are two things that can go straight to a 2 week ban or even a permanent ban.

Also, Riot will not transfer the things you purchased as you don't own them. Our accounts are owned by Riot, we are borrowing them. The things we purchase are for us to use until things like being banned happens. If you get banned, you lose all privileges to not only the account but the items purchased until the ban is lifted, unless it's a permaban.

Lastly, permabans are Riot's way of saying "You didn't learn from the chat restrictions/2 week ban, we don't want you here." If you're toxic enough to skip straight to a perma, then most of the community will wonder if you're okay, which you probably aren't.

Though for us to really tell you if the ban was deserved is for you to post your chat logs. Otherwise, all we can do is assume that yes, you deserved to be banned and that you shouldn't come back.

Edit; Nami beat me to the punishment tiers while I was typing.

dagurr2 votes

Welcome to the Permabanned club add me I might start a group this seems to be reoccuring with everyone

Bettnachleger2 votes

You're a good example why Riot doesn't show the actual account state of how close you are to the next punishment. "Oh, I'm close to a ban, I should behave for like 10 games. After that, I can be toxic again" What ever, it's your own fault. (btw. just read the bottom of your 14 day ban mail, there is a warning that you're close to a permanent ban)

Sarutobi2 votes

This is something I never understood when people break the rules. What makes them think that them buying RP is some holy grounds that they should never get punished? It just doesn't make sense in my eyes. Everyone is treated equally. You break the rules you get some form of punishment simple as that. You chose to ignore the consequences as well as assume that you had more chances to "throw away" if I was ever ban (or chat restricted) that would tell me to clean my act. Not assume I have a couple more chances to act up so it should be fine. Just I'm trying to understand why people feel the need to act like children in this. I would assume if you are mature enough to use a computer/play this game. You are mature enough to act like a civilized human being!

Penns1 votes

This is something I never understood when people trash talk on this board. What makes them think that mentioning how much money someone spent equals saying "I spent X money, I shouldnt be banned"? It just doesnt make sense in my eyes. kek

o Maui o1 votes

I agree with you on this. A lot of people seem to think that a player bringing up monetary investment is automatically arguing that he shouldn't have been banned because he paid, but that's not always what they're saying. Sometimes they're actually just trying to point out that they were invested in their account and that it has significant value to them.

I do kind of wish that we wouldn't automatically jump to the "JUST BECAUSE YOU PAID DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN AVOID PUNISHMENT" response. It's tempting, because some people do some in here with that mentality and it's pretty obnoxious, but maybe give people the benefit of the doubt and don't assume that they are trying to excuse their bad behavior with money unless they actually say that. They could very easily just be trying to express how much value the account was worth to them.

Sarutobi2 votes

See but even then if you paid for things (in this case RP) I would think it would be common sense to be on your best behavior since now it has some value in it. Of all the complaints I e seen they really only bring up spending money because they feel like they shouldn't be ban because they paid. There is no reason to continue to break the rules and justify it because you spend money on the game you aren't going to get punished. Name one game that actually has something like that?

Astôlfo1 votes

It's irrelevant how much money you spent. No one cares at all. You were still an ass and you broke the rules.

And the point in permabanning is that you obviously can't reform after that many chances. So you are not welcome anymore. It is the "get out" message.

It's not harsh. You had multiple chances. You screwed them all up.

And obviously you haven't learned anything. Feel free to be toxic on as many new accounts as you want. You'll just get perma'd on every single one.

And it doesn't "force" you to do anything, let alone make a smurf. And you've already had tons of "last chances". Stop trying to act as if you have any right to complain. It's annoying.

And it's not messed up in the slightest.

Kei1431 votes

tldr, but from what i've skimmed through, you don't understand the new reform system that was implemented since Aug-2015.

Might wanna update yourself first: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/tvviuURj-multiple-reports-and-other-misconceptions

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