Soft Inting-Something HAS to be done...

The difference between us is that I didn't go back to my match history to get all the exact details, I remembered he died a lot and used some numbers off the top of my head to try to make a point. If I "embellished" it was incidental, and irrelevant to the point of my argument.

But as I said, it's whatever, you disagree and no matter what anyone says you will never change your mind so this conversation is pointless.

Have a great day, please stop replying as a courtesy, because unread notifications trigger my OCD and I have no interest in continuing this conversation.

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Yet you said, "THAT PLAYER SHOULD BE PUNISHED."

So you were convinced enough to already make a claim on whether they deserve to be punished.

And you had none of that information before you made a claim on whether or not someone deserved a punishment. Checking all of those things takes time, and Riot can't check every report manually given how quickly people are willing to claim someone else was griefing based on their own perceptions.

The understanding that reasonable doubt exists regardless of ELO. Falsely punishing people for griefing is something that Riot is going to avoid when possible. It doesn't matter what ELO you're at for that.

I shall not retract my statement. Players that go "rusty" then jump into ranked then die multiple times under conditions that should not give rise to their deaths should be punished. That Tahm Kench is in fact a most typical example.

Dying 14 times (for 3 kills and 3 assists, none the less) in a 27 minute game should guarantee a warning. Hell, let's be lenient, warn him the second time. Doing it multiple times (e.g. 10 times in 100 games) should guarantee a light (2-day?) ban. To understand why, you need to picture this: On average it takes 40 seconds to walk from your fountain to your outer turret. Each death causes (on average) a 30 second time-out. 30+40=70. This Tahm died on average once every ~110-120 seconds... So this tahm kench spent considerably more time dead and/or going back to lane than being active on the map. Still, he's a Gold IV player, supposedly above 60-65%+ of the ranked player base. See my problem? People who spend more time alive than dead should not possibly be better than 60-65% of the player base. People at that range should have the common sense to not die so often. Also they should have the common sense to not jump straight into ranked after several days of TFT if they think they got rusty. Why not play a normal game first? Don't forget, if you read Riot's guideline to reporting, it states that you should report "any player that made your experience negative" which is something that this player knowingly did.

In short I still believe that players like the one described are toxic and should be punished. P.S. - Also I was referring to my story. My story isn't meant to be proof of anything. A short statement about a 3/14 doesn't and shouldn't be regarded as a story.

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What large difference is there in one person playing poorly for one game and another person losing 6 games in a row? One can infer they were "soft inting".

In your history I find that you have a 2/13/2 20min game. If you were to earnestly believe that someone should be punished for going 3/14/3 in a 27 min game then you must also find your own games punishable. I don't, but this is in reference to your standards right now.

At minimum I expect people to hold themselves up to their own standards when arguing that standard.

There's a difference, although it would require some game knowledge. However nothing a silver-gold player should not have. I am surprised that you did not see it for yourself. Or I feign surprise. Or do I ?... See ? That was my attempt at humor.

By seeing the game it is quite obvious what happened. I l obviously had to first pick (Olaf is one of Irelia's highly unfavourable match ups, look it up: https://champion.gg/matchup/Olaf/Irelia/Top & https://www.reddit.com/r/IreliaMains/comments/5hz9xo/olaf_vs_irelia_top_lane_matchup_question ). Vi is a solid pre lvl 6 ganker while Rengar cannot contribute much. Rengar overall performed poorly. What is more, being one of my first games of the year my MMR was fluctuating rapidly, so skill balanced matching was less likely, as clearly indicated by the final score. Odds are, this was effectively a low plat Olaf and low plat Vi vs a mid-low gold Rengar and me. Additionally, although Irelia is a champion I am rather comfortable with (80k MP on 2 accounts) she is not by any means a champion I have a ton of experience on, so as to deal with such an oppressive start. Overall, a bad game (in terms of my performance)? Yes. Soft inting? No.

Now, take a look at that https://www.counterstats.net/league-of-legends/tahm-kench/vs-kayle/top/all Also consider looking into that, as a link for further reference https://www.reddit.com/r/summonerschool/comments/7dyqkg/how_to_do_you_play_against_tahm_kench_top/

Now it may further be clearly demonstrated that early game Tahm Kench holds an almost insurmountable advantage over Kayle in the top lane. It's not half the point though. Their ridiculously low performance, (even had it been in an even match up), at this ELO, in conjunction with their statements may be, subjectively but in good conscience (which is to say reasonably objectively), considered a lack of interest in winning the game. Which is punishable. If you are not interested in winning a game don't play ranked. Period.

Finally you clearly miss the point of your argument. As you have already checked my History, you probably already know that this is the only game this season (and well into the pre-season) that this happened, although I did have another really bad game with Teemo, again in a highly unfavorable match up and bearing jungle pressure. Even then, by the way I itemize and my death patterns it still remains reasonably easy to demonstrate that these were rare exceptions. By my standards I would -maybe- have been warned, then the warning would have expired. So I very well uphold my standards.

In conclusion, I appreciate your interest in this thread although your lack of analysis, given your persistence, strongly indicate that you are here because you just don't like it (or me), nothing more, nothing less. If that is the case then you should consider leaving.

Should you stay, bear in mind that I also expect people posting here to uphold a certain standard of game knowledge or willingness to meaningfully contribute to this discussion. I will have to kindly ask you to adhere to those standards. Of course you are under no obligation to. But in my humble opinion you really should.