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I am genuinely confused as to how this is seen as toxic and im banned for it

TheGreatIve··1 votes·570 views

TO PREFACE, THE LAST 2 GAMES WERE PLAYED 3 WEEKS AGO AND I HAVE NO CLUE AS TO HOW THEY ARE INCLUDED AS I TOOK A BREAK FROM LEAGUE BECAUSE I KNEW I WAS TOXIC AND DIDNT WANT TO GET BANNED. I HAVE NO CLUE HOW GAME 1, THE GAME I JSUT PLAYED, WAS TOXIC TO THE POINT WHERE A BAN IS WARRANT???

I understand the chat from game 1 was negative, but if my adc says report top afk no tp pls report and procedes to not care and try to lose, i dont understand why im banned for saying stop blaming others. That what my entire team was doing. Blaming others. I was trying to win the whole time and ended with our only tower, yet apparently me calling out our adc that didnt want to win is far worse and warrants a ban.

Game 1 TheGreatIve: no pots vs nami is gona be reallllllly rough... TheGreatIve: zac have u not seen him on 30% hp for 5 minutes TheGreatIve: please gank its a free dive TheGreatIve: the game has been going on for 7 minutes that is the worst exscuse in history TheGreatIve: lmao akali pings im not there and leaves muting this idiot now TheGreatIve: not tping to your lane you are 2/7 as a lane fix your own mistake dont blame TheGreatIve: im never gona ff this game lol. not gona ff bceause jungler never ganked when all iasked for was 1 and every other lane fed TheGreatIve: yea they have gone mid and you have fed every single time yet continue to do so. i played how im supposed to vs shen u guys fed TheGreatIve: if cait didnt want to lsoe we coulda won. not sure why they were so toxic lol. also akali look at your laner stop blaming Game 2 TheGreatIve: first graves adc ive seen in 2 seasons TheGreatIve: yea you went into an obvious 2v3 now i dont get good leash thats on youy TheGreatIve: and you are bad i dont see a point TheGreatIve: akali mind watching the fucking game? TheGreatIve: akali your reaction if fucking horrible just afk holy shit TheGreatIve: wtf is this akali doing and since thresh said i dont need leash he doesnt need gank TheGreatIve: no smite wtfg TheGreatIve: why would u think i would give u farm lol u arent doing shit TheGreatIve: her splitting is helping more than you missing every hook TheGreatIve: what hooks? has he hit one this game other than onto sion? TheGreatIve: akali why would i give a fuck about your shit baron call lmao you are on a level with thsi thresh TheGreatIve: congradulations you upgraded boots at 38 minutes nice feed btw akali Game 3 TheGreatIve: that champ is so fair TheGreatIve: also urgot quit fighting at all we are winning every lane dont throw yours and lose us the game TheGreatIve: our top laner is trolling TheGreatIve: SO FUCKING WHAT PLAY SAFE AND STOP INTING TheGreatIve: dying with flash up under tower to a voli and you care calling me a tard TheGreatIve: makes sense since youve been dead half the game TheGreatIve: report urgot TheGreatIve: exactly TheGreatIve: jinx stay baron TheGreatIve: i gave diana the biggest camp in human history and they end up worse than talon TheGreatIve: fucking sad

18 Comments

Chermorg4 votes

Taking time off from League does not reset your account's standing. You cannot escape punishment just by leaving for a week, a few weeks, a few months, or any amount of time. If you take time off and come back, your account standing is as if you had never taken the time off (i.e. if you had played continuously and those weeks/months didn't happen).

I am presuming you were on an active chat restriction when you were on these games due to the length of messages and the small number of them (which coincides with one every 4 minutes). Would you care to tell us about your prior punishment history?

TheGreatIve1 votes

Yea i was. I took a break from the game because i felt that i was being extremely toxic. I came back and was doing well having fun and wasnt toxic even when people werent doing well, and i dont understand how game 1 was the one that broke the camels back as i dont see how it is toxic. I undersatnd it is negative, but not toxic to the point where a punishment should be warranted.

Chermorg2 votes

I'll try to break down the game for you:

Game 1 TheGreatIve: no pots vs nami is gona be reallllllly rough... TheGreatIve: zac have u not seen him on 30% hp for 5 minutes TheGreatIve: please gank its a free dive

While the second line is a little passive aggressive, none of these are really all that bad. However, keep in mind that passive aggressiveness is interpreted in the eye of the beholder - there's no reason you couldn't have phrased it better such as "hey zac, he's been low for a while, if you could gank soon I'd appreciate it" or similar

TheGreatIve: the game has been going on for 7 minutes that is the worst exscuse in history

Accusing someone of making excuses just because they aren't doing what you want them to is not appropriate.

TheGreatIve: lmao akali pings im not there and leaves muting this idiot now

Saying you're muting someone is not against the rules. Calling them an idiot is.

TheGreatIve: not tping to your lane you are 2/7 as a lane fix your own mistake dont blame

Again, stating you're not going to TP to their lane, and giving a reason, is usually okay. Using their score in an attempt to belittle them, saying they're making mistakes and that they're to blame isn't. Better way to say this: "hey man, i can't really tp to your lane as you're really far behind and it won't do any good. if i tp to your lane it'll just put me and others behind". No need to bring score into it, no need to place blame on anyone or talk about who's mistakes they are - just give the reason.

TheGreatIve: im never gona ff this game lol. not gona ff bceause jungler never ganked when all iasked for was 1 and every other lane fed

Saying you don't want to ff is fine. Blaming your jungler and then making clear that the reason you aren't FFing is to make the jungler and other laners feel even worse about the game is not okay.

TheGreatIve: yea they have gone mid and you have fed every single time yet continue to do so. i played how im supposed to vs shen u guys fed TheGreatIve: if cait didnt want to lsoe we coulda won. not sure why they were so toxic lol. also akali look at your laner stop blaming

These last two lines are full of blaming and negativity. Neither of these lines have any need to be said in the game.

The bottom line is that this entire log is full of you getting tilted - which is fine - but then you decided to take your tilt out on everyone else. If you aren't having fun, gosh darn it, nobody else is allowed to have fun either. They're all trying - but you keep blaming them, trying to say it's their fault, and even going so far as to rub it in their faces that they did poorly. Almost 50% of your chat was fine - but the other 50% was that in virtually every message after the first 3 messages you went beyond strategically talking to your team and went into insulting them, blaming them, berating them, and trying to make them feel like shit for what you perceive as their wrongdoings.

TheGreatIve1 votes

In my experience, politely asking for anything in this game (especially pertaining to junglers) doesn't work. With everyone spamming ff 15 with me not doing poorly, even soloing shen, really annoys me. I didn't lose the game for the team, i was trying my hardest, so when i say no and someone says to ff and says irelia ff i am going to tell them why im not. With the cait spamming all chat to report me for not tping to lane i am going to get pissed. Its apparent they werent reasonable so i told them straight up that hey, you guys pretty much fucked your lane and i cant help that so stop blaming me. I really dont deem that as toxic, if someone is all chat spamming to report someone 15 minutes into the game i dont think they are trying to win at all, and that tilts me because i am. I have played this game for about a year, and came from wow where i got rank 1 glad multiple times. I am competitive as fuck. I have got 4 accounts permad for being toxic because realistically who the fuck cares about someone being nice. Being nice doesnt win games. Buckling down and doing what you are supposed to does, and if me being mean makes my teammates do that than so be it. I dont understand how it is justifiable to permanently ban someone for being mean if they try their hardest every single game to win, yet someone giving up, effectively auto losing the game, gives them 5 more minutes on their que time. I guess i cant play this game anymore for my own sake. I hate the fact that i love the game yet trying my hardest gets me banned because im not being nice to someone that is losing the game for the whole team. Hopefully this kind of thing gets changed. If it does i will gladly comeback. Also the comment about calling someone an idiot is against the rules, fuck off. If calling someone an idiot is against the rules that is so sad i cant stand it. I cant think of a single other game with a competitive mode that would willingly ban someone for calling them an idiot. I am never toxic at all in norms, because the loss doesnt effect anything. In competitive i can play my heart out for 50 minutes getting a hardfought victory, all for this dumb motherfucking caitlyn to lose it in 20 minutes because they stop trying and then i am back to square 1. I dont know if board advisors have any influence in riot, but hopefully if they do they are smart enough to realize that it isnt toxicity that ruins game. It is the people that deliberately lose that is and hopefully would do something about it.

Chermorg4 votes

See, you are forgetting that you don't have any right to get ganks. It is not as if the jungler is violating some inalienable right of yours by not ganking. They are their own player, and they're allowed to make their own decisions as to what they think will win the game. There has never been a "team captain" or "boss" position on the team - the closest thing was that a long time ago one player would make all the bans instead of each player getting their own.

You don't have any right to demand he gank. You do have the right and responsibility to remain civil and remain a team player.

TheGreatIve1 votes

A zac not ganking is being a team player huh? You are telling me a zac farming his way to late game vs a nunu is gona win us the game? i guess thats why he went 1/7/5. You really need to take i look at the game through a realistic lens, not a hypothetical one.

TheGreatIve1 votes

A zac not ganking is being a team player huh? You are telling me a zac farming his way to late game vs a nunu is gona win us the game? i guess thats why he went 1/7/5. You really need to take i look at the game through a realistic lens, not a hypothetical one. Im not even upset about that. Im upset about the fucking caitlyn that decided we arent going to win gets 0 punishment when i have played over 500 games and never threw a single one getting banned because i called them out on it.

TheGreatIve1 votes

A zac not ganking is being a team player huh? You are telling me a zac farming his way to late game vs a nunu is gona win us the game? i guess thats why he went 1/7/5. You really need to take i look at the game through a realistic lens, not a hypothetical one. Im not even upset about that. Im upset about the fucking caitlyn that decided we arent going to win gets 0 punishment when i have played over 500 games and never threw a single one getting banned because i called them out on it.

And yea a jungler not ganking any lane is trolling especially on someone like zac. Call it what you will, but in the end it is trolling plain and simple.

Chermorg2 votes

He has every right to gank or not gank as he thinks will help win the game. As I said earlier, you are not the team boss that gets to determine who has to do what.

Even still, his behavior does not justify your negativity or toxicity. There is never a valid reason to be negative/toxic in game, no matter how frustrated you are.

And yea a jungler not ganking any lane is trolling especially on someone like zac. Call it what you will, but in the end it is trolling plain and simple.

No, it is not. Trolling is intentionally doing something that you know will result in your team being behind, with the intent to fuck over your team. Simply not ganking does not meet that definition.

TheGreatIve1 votes

Yea as a gank heavy champion i would easily say ganking a whole 0 times is trolling. Like i said, look through a realistic lens, not a bullshit theoretical happy one where everyone is a good person. It is apparent you dont care about winning in a ranked setting by the way you talk dude. Plain and simple.

TheGreatIve1 votes

Also where do i blame anyone. I said not to blame me for not doing an objectively stupid play. sorry i told off the bot lane that wanted me to tp in for jinx to get a triple kill that im not tping. And the caitlyn wasnt trying at all, she afk typed for a good 30% of the game. I didnt rub the fact that anyone was doing poorly in their face, i stated that if you arent doing well im not going to try to make a risky play for players that havent shown that they can respond to a play successfully.

TheGreatIve1 votes

With that being said however, most of my games i didnt even use all of my chats as i wasnt trying to type at all.

ModJeonGoyangi2 votes

Hi there. Sorry you feel confused as to why you were punished. I read the chat logs and it looks as if you were harrassing your team mates. Calling out what they did wrong isnt gonna make them play any better. Next time give them good advice like "hey next time it better to be positioned here instead." or "a ward here would really help the team."

~KittySuppSquad [sona-playing] [sg-soraka]

TheGreatIve1 votes

I understand game 1 and 2 were very toxic, i am just confused as to how defending myself when the caitlynn is going to all chat spamming report top lane afk wont tp is getting my banned. I was telling everyone to stop blaming each other. I felt like the only one playing lol. I got our only tower!!!

Hammermancer1 votes

why is it that every time i see a "I wasn't being toxic" thread the posted logs are always filled to the brim with insults and rage

why cant you just say this shit to your computer and not type it in chat?

TheGreatIve1 votes

Read the preface, i knew i was being toxic and took a break. the game 2 and 3 were toxic and i took a break because of it. I am confused as to how game 1 broke the camels back in a sense. I dont see how that is considered toxic to the point where a punishment is warranted.

Hammermancer1 votes

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Read the preface, i knew i was being toxic and took a break. the game 2 and 3 were toxic and i took a break because of it. I am confused as to how game 1 broke the camels back in a sense. I dont see how that is considered toxic to the point where a punishment is warranted.

It's a point system

you gotta basically eat ass to get back on rito's good side

spend every game playing janna and saying "GJ ^.^" to everyone every time they last hit a minion (DON'T ACTUALLY DO THAT)

no but you gotta farm your honor back up

TheGreatIve1 votes

I can get that, but i dont see how i would lose points for that last game. Hell, i even started to play support. I was having fun and not being toxic after the break i took, yet 1 game that i dont consider toxic, especially not at the level the other games were at, got me banned. I dont understand how the other games were included either, as they were played such a long time ago.

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