Idea for banning toxic players

Warbandittt·Dec 16, 2015·3 votes·290 views

Why instead of permabanning people's account for toxicity, they just permaban their ability to communicate in-game? both allies and in all. I know this happens in the beginning, where they block you from chatting, and it works! no more toxicity from that person.

I don't think it's appropriate because some people get permabanned for their words, not their play. Some people have anger issues, I don't know. If that's the case, then revoking their ability to chat would fix that, wouldn't it?

I think it'd be appropriate to permaban people that intentionally feed, afk and troll. Those shouldn't be allowed to play again.

This is my third account, recently started after a year of absence, I've seen it all. Just a thought that'll hopefully get enough traction to get noticed.

13 Comments

SmokedAlmondsDec 16, 20157 votes

Removing their chat increases the chances that they will use other means(aka trolling) to vent their frustration. I also think chat restrictions punish everyone on a team by limiting communication.

On a personal level, I don't want to play with them period. Having them muted or chat restricted does not change the fact that they are taking up a slot that could have gone to someone I want to play with.

I would be fine if they just put them in a queue together but riot has said they don't want to do that multiple times.

WarbanditttDec 16, 20151 votes

right, but you'll never know they're toxic if their chat is banned. Also, they might be better than the non-toxic person that doesn't really talk in chat either. Trust me I don't like playing with toxic people either, 10/10 I mute them and don't deal with their crap. But I just think it's a better solution.

I don't think most people would troll anyway, they actually care about their k/d, their league position and mmr. But if they do, they totally would deserve a permaban, which is my 2nd point.

SmokedAlmondsDec 16, 20153 votes

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right, but you'll never know they're toxic if their chat is banned. Also, they might be better than the non-toxic person that doesn't really talk in chat either. Trust me I don't like playing with toxic people either, 10/10 I mute them and don't deal with their crap. But I just think it's a better solution.

I don't think most people would troll anyway, they actually care about their k/d, their league position and mmr. But if they do, they totally would deserve a permaban, which is my 2nd point.

Ya, but they will never be positive. So I trade a spot that could have been someone positive for someone who is guaranteed not to be. I can ignore/mute them on my own. By being permanently chat banned they have been identified as someone I don't want to play with but im still stuck playing with them.

I have no idea what percentage of perma muted people would go on to troll, but if its more than 0 its not worth it to me. This is just more stuff that players who are behaving would have to deal with for the benefit of players who can't or won't follow the rules.

WarbanditttDec 16, 20151 votes

Well you're being selfish, you're thinking about yourself. I'm thinking about the people with their accounts banned full of champs, skins, runes pages, etc. because they get mad at trolls/feeders, or whatever it is. (when's the last time you saw someone getting mad at a carrying ADC/APC?)

Like i said, I'm sure you'll enjoy having a fed vayne more than a feeding vayne. That fed vayne could've been the muted toxic player that only focuses on playing now vs that quiet/non toxic player that's just not as good. How do you know which one's "positive" and which one isn't if they can't communicate, just play?

It's all could've would've, but like your argument, it's a possibility.

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PIMPSMOOTHDec 16, 20153 votes

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I'm thinking about the people with their accounts banned full of champs, skins, runes pages, etc. because they get mad at trolls/feeders, or whatever it is.

Here's your problem, those people who knowingly break the rules consciously and willingly put all that at risk - and they decided that breaking the rules was worth risking it.

They don't care about it, nor should you.

WarbanditttDec 16, 20151 votes

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Here's your problem, those people who knowingly break the rules consciously and willingly put all that at risk - and they decided that breaking the rules was worth risking it.

They don't care about it, nor should you.

Didn't know getting mad in a competitive game was breaking the rules. Nowadays you can't fart in-game or it's considered toxicity. Also you can't curse because it's also considered toxicity (I'm an adult, and this is not business or a profession, I'm pretty sure I have enough freedom to throw a curse word here and there)

Either way, this thread isn't about why people are toxic or anything, it's about implementing a better banning system that could benefit both riot (they don't lose paying customers, even if it's 1,000 out of 100,000,000) and players don't lose their account.

PIMPSMOOTHDec 16, 20153 votes

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Didn't know getting mad in a competitive game was breaking the rules.

Didn't know you weren't aware of the difference between getting mad, and getting mad then deciding to take it out on your teammate(s) in a negative manner which makes the entire match not fun to play.

Now I do, which explains why you're on your 3rd account.

The fact that you can't act like a baby and throw a tantrum when things don't go your way hasn't sunk in yet for you - maybe on your 4th account it will.

WarbanditttDec 16, 20151 votes

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Didn't know you weren't aware of the difference between getting mad, and getting mad then deciding to take it out on your teammate(s) in a negative manner which makes the entire match not fun to play.

Now I do, which explains why you're on your 3rd account.

The fact that you can't act like a baby and throw a tantrum when things don't go your way hasn't sunk in yet for you - maybe on your 4th account it will.

Me having a 3rd, 4th or 5th account has nothing to do with this post, and you don't know my reasons for having more than one account, or why I stopped playing for a year; maybe I sold the other 2, maybe I gave them away, maybe I got bored. You also don't know whether "I act like a baby" or not, we've never played together. Instead of being a judgmental prick, you can just contribute to the thread or don't comment at all.

Also, if it makes the entire match not fun to play, you can just mute them. As most non-toxic people do. For the most part no one replies to toxic people, only other toxic people do. If it bothers you mute them, which is exactly what a chat ban would do. No toxicity.

PIMPSMOOTHDec 16, 20152 votes

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Me having a 3rd, 4th or 5th account has nothing to do with this post, and you don't know my reasons for having more than one account, or why I stopped playing for a year; maybe I sold the other 2, maybe I gave them away, maybe I got bored. You also don't know whether "I act like a baby" or not, we've never played together. Instead of being a judgmental prick, you can just contribute to the thread or don't comment at all.

Also, if it makes the entire match not fun to play, you can just mute them. As most non-toxic people do. For the most part no one replies to toxic people, only other toxic people do. If it bothers you mute them, which is exactly what a chat ban would do. No toxicity.

Maybe, maybe, maybe - yet you can't set the record straight. Pretty obvious you've been banned prior.

Moving forward, don't speak for "most people". You can barely manage to speak for yourself as is and have no clue what "most people do".

Like all the toxic players who have posted this horrible idea prior to you, you share one trait in common: you wish to promote being an immature, baby raging, toxic cancer in-game to every player you come in contact under the guise of "competitive play" and do so with no repercussions, believing Riot and the community should cater it's standards and rule set around petulant behavior.

WarbanditttDec 26, 20151 votes

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Maybe, maybe, maybe - yet you can't set the record straight. Pretty obvious you've been banned prior.

Moving forward, don't speak for "most people". You can barely manage to speak for yourself as is and have no clue what "most people do".

Like all the toxic players who have posted this horrible idea prior to you, you share one trait in common: you wish to promote being an immature, baby raging, toxic cancer in-game to every player you come in contact under the guise of "competitive play" and do so with no repercussions, believing Riot and the community should cater it's standards and rule set around petulant behavior.

What's all this speculation? I've never been banned. Stop watching so much Sherlock. It's a good show but don't get sucked up in it.

It's not a horrible idea, it's a great idea. Toxic people can no longer be toxic in chat and leave it as that. If they're trolling then permaban. Simple.

PDE5 InhibitorsDec 16, 20152 votes

How do you know you don't want to play with them if they are muted? You have no idea whether they are a toxic mute or just someone that doesn't speak during the game.

To your comment about trolling...usually people that I see flaming are ones that are flaming AT trollers...so I'm not seeing why you think that.

PDE5 InhibitorsDec 16, 20152 votes

I really don't get the reasoning for them not doing this...

WarbanditttDec 16, 20151 votes

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I really don't get the reasoning for them not doing this...

don't know! Wish they'd give it a try.