i get reported every game because i dont play like a plat player. its pathetic the amount of salty trolls on blind pick. Please tell me there is a way to get back in good standings, even tho im getting reported for not being a plat player.
RiotRiot Tantram16 votesYour penalty wasn't from not being a plat player. The reports against you were also valid. It's pretty easy to get back in good standing. All you have to do is not harass people, don't troll, and don't intentionally feed.
You don't have to do anything special, beyond just playing and having fun.
If people report you and you do nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about.
Cptn Sodium3 voteskeep an eye on my account please, im going to keep everyone muted and just play and not feed intentionally, how many games does it take to get into good standings? is there an estimation?
BobaFlautist2 votes[{quoted}](name=Cptn Sodium,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BAazeesU,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-10-05T21:35:32.161+0000)
keep an eye on my account please, im going to keep everyone muted and just play and not feed intentionally, how many games does it take to get into good standings? is there an estimation?
Here's the thing: it doesn't matter. All being in good standing lets you do is get away with being a dick a few more times before having to behave yourself again. As long as your only goal is to not get penalized, just keep being a good citizen and you don't need to worry about where your standing is.
Deep Terror Nami4 votesHas anyone asked if you'd be interested in joining the Volunteer Program Discord? We have quite a few Rioters, and the members of the NA/OCE volunteer programs, a couple from the EU volunteers and some people from the community that unofficially help out. We'd love to have you :3
Dehitay1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BAazeesU,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2016-10-05T21:36:06.450+0000)
Has anyone asked if you'd be interested in joining the Volunteer Program Discord? We have quite a few Rioters, and the members of the NA/OCE volunteer programs, a couple from the EU volunteers and some people from the community that unofficially help out. We'd love to have you :3
What does the Volunteer Program Discord do?
Deep Terror Nami1 votesWe shoot shit, mostly :3 It's a place for the members of volunteer programs (Arbiters, Wrenchmen, Instructors etc.) to come together for coordinating those programs and having meetings etc. We used Skype at first, but Discord is way better for socializing.
Oh Look Kaede1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BAazeesU,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2016-10-05T21:36:06.450+0000)
Has anyone asked if you'd be interested in joining the Volunteer Program Discord? We have quite a few Rioters, and the members of the NA/OCE volunteer programs, a couple from the EU volunteers and some people from the community that unofficially help out. We'd love to have you :3
Can you provide me a link to that website or application? I'm interested.
Deep Terror Nami1 votesFor Discord or the volunteer program? If you're interested in volunteering, if you're active in the community and a good fit we'll notice. We also have a public Discord channel for the community which is a good place to start.
Oh Look Kaede1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BAazeesU,comment-id=0001000100010000,timestamp=2016-10-06T16:26:35.493+0000)
For Discord or the volunteer program? If you're interested in volunteering, if you're active in the community and a good fit we'll notice. We also have a public Discord channel for the community which is a good place to start.
Thank you ^~^
BlindApples3 votesF#ck you Riot, you're bunch of idiots :)
BeatzBoyFTW2 votesReally? You got pissed at him just because you were rightfully banned for feeding?
BlindApples1 votesYes :D That's all ... Having troubles processing it ? http://i.imgur.com/zktRC5t.gif Talk to Mr.Parrot.
BlindApples1 votesNow for real about the ban they said that "even if I had not done it on purpose I have still created a negative environment for my teammates" which wasn't included in my official report for "intentionally feeding" not "just feeding" and if you don't see the difference http://i.imgur.com/zktRC5t.gif ask Mr.Parrot he knows.
KVbqbFsC8e3 votesCalling an 0-10 player "bad"- harassment and permabannable but completely negated by /mute.
Being 0/10- no punishment whatsoever, teammates cannot do anything about it, you make them lose LP and get them banned if they say anything.
Do you seriously not see any problem with that?
RiotRiot Tantram16 votesSo you think having a bad game should be punishable?
What type of punishment do you think you should get for your 0/8 Nasus game?
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2208457265/206718547?tab=overview
What about your 0/7 game?
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2193562514/206718547?tab=overview
Every single person has a bad game from time to time. Even the best pro players have uncharacteristic games and deliver poor scores. There is a serious difference between having a bad game and 'intentionally feeding'.
You are absolutely right that calling someone bad is not acceptable. No, it is not negated by mute. I see this excuse all the time, and it doesn't hold up. You've already seen it, and your other teammates are now being exposed to and affected by your attitude. Negative attitude negatively affects performance of everyone exposed. There are many studies and a lot of data to back this. It also makes a game that is supposed to be fun .. not fun. What are you accomplishing by insulting others? Does it make you feel better? Do you think it's going to make the other person play better?
I don't know about you, but I don't log onto League in the hopes of being discovered by a pro team. I play League and many other video games because I enjoy playing.
I enjoy the challenge of always getting better and facing stiff competition. When I lose, I focus on the I can do better to carry my team to victory.
AramsAreBest1 votesWhat about players who are intentionally low key trolling. Yes I am 100 percent they are trolling and yes I am 100 percent they will not be punished.
Bultz1 votesWhat about players who are intentionally low key trolling. Yes I am 100 percent they are trolling and yes I am 100 percent they will not be punished.
They don't get any sort of punishment because they don't use specific language riot looks for and frankly riot doesn't give a shit. Like I've had hundreds of pre made teams troll me low key. No i'm not the perfect player, but they flame you low key and you get punished. They only gank themselves, don't ping, don't fight with you, don't peel for you, anything and everything you can think of, they just do for themselves. So when I am 0/15 because not one could ping mia, they didn't come help me in lane when all 5 laners are in my lane and I am trapped, and they don't care because i'm not pre made with them, and they start flaming me for it, I respond. like It is frustrating. But people like this rioter who posted above look how mean you where because of the team and don't care that for 30 minutes you were harassed. They blame you. Like one time I was flamed for the whole game and the only thing I said once or twice was like "okay enjoy the report" and I got muted for it. They didn't get anything. Riot is shit in terms of actually serving people justly.
Burklight1 votesI don't believe you should be punished for behavior for having a bad game. I do believe, however, that if a team's loss is disproportionality one team member's fault, the team as a whole shouldn't share the loss of LP (And I know you have numbers to prove who played poorly beyond KDA thanks to your champion mastery scores).
For example, if I have an adc who's only dealt 10k damage at the end of a 45 minute game, I'd like that player to lose 35-50 LP instead of 20, and the rest of the team gets a loss forgiven. That'll encourage each individual player to play their absolute best every game, and you wont have as many people raging at feeders, because the feeder no longer hurts anyone's LP but their own.
Investa2 votesI don't believe you should be punished for behavior for having a bad game. I do believe, however, that if a team's loss is disproportionality one team member's fault, the team as a whole shouldn't share the loss of LP (And I know you have numbers to prove who played poorly beyond KDA thanks to your champion mastery scores).
For example, if I have an adc who's only dealt 10k damage at the end of a 45 minute game, I'd like that player to lose 35-50 LP instead of 20, and the rest of the team gets a loss forgiven. That'll encourage each individual player to play their absolute best every game, and you wont have as many people raging at feeders, because the feeder no longer hurts anyone's LP but their own.
This is going on the assumption that the only way to contribute to a team is in raw numbers; damage and kill ratio. This simply isn't true and if you think so it's wrong. Yes, 10k damage in a typical 45 minute game on an ADC is pretty poor, but without any other context, does this alone mean that this player had a disproportionately negative effect on the team and secured the loss? Would you value a player with more kills and more deaths, rather than a player that just had a lot of deaths? Why? Did you know that every kill resets your bounty to 300g, and every assist slowly brings it up a percentage back to its full 300g value? Therefore, in terms of actual feeding the enemy team, a player who goes 12/8/4 is feeding more than a player going 0/10/2. Considerably more. These are things that nobody considers or thinks about.
Another thing to consider is that likely the person with the best score that everyone thinks is the "carry" might not even have the highest champion damage. A lot of times it is actually the player with the worse scores. There are so many variables to this game that treating it by competitive team death-match rules is just ignorant.
The idea of penalizing players who perform particularly badly is just not a good idea, so much as the current system of rewarding players for playing good with the champion mastery. You can get an S rank in a losing game, and if one person can solo carry a game to failure, surely one person can solo carry them to victory, no? Consider more options in approaching victory than team-fighting and jacking up those numbers.
Burklight1 votesI was using the 10k damage in a 45 minute game as an example. It's very clearly not the only indicator that someone played terribly, and I'm not suggesting we should only look at one of those numbers. Riot already has a system in play that allegedly looks at all of that. Why not use it for your LP? Nothing is more demoralizing for me than to have an S+ game where I can 1v3 the adc support and mid on the other team only to lose anyway because my adc and mid may as well be afk. I know I'm not alone or special in that feeling either. Everyone has been there a few times. That's a pretty extreme example, but you know you've played games before that you deserved to win, but didn't because one or two people on your team absolutely deserved to lose. Why should you be punished for that? If you only play that poorly 1/20 games it wont make a difference. if you're playing that poorly 1/5 games, maybe Riot needs to put their foot on the gas and place you where you belong more quickly than the current system will.
RiotRiot Tantram13 votesWhat if your first pick is an immobile ADC, and the entire team picks assassins.
This just changes the dynamic of how each player plays. You can still win or lose the game, but your ADC has to be much more careful in this situation. Their job becomes staying alive and joining the fight late. This would result in lower damage.
What if your top lane plays a low DPS tank, and they are just soaking damage and dying so the team can do what they need to do? What about a split pusher who buys time for the team to take objectives.
Why would a support not play a DPS mage in this case? The they would ensure they lose less LP.
Why would a top lane play a tank instead of DPS?
League of Legends is a team game.
I'm a football fan. Different teams play differently. One team may stack up the running yards, creating huge stats for the running back. Does this mean the loss should count less for the running back than the receivers? Other teams are pass heavy or defense heavy.
Why is it that you want to punish people for having a poor game? In the vast majority of cases, they were trying hard .. just like you. Why should they be punished because the comp wasn't in their favor? Why should they be punished if they are against the best player on the enemy team while you may have done well because you were against their worst?
Intentional feeding is not as prevalent as you may think. Most reports for intentional feeding are because someone did poorly in a game and the reporter needed someone to blame. Remember, when you reach your correct matchmaking rating, you will win/lose 50% of the games.
Burklight2 votesThe question isn't "Why should they be punished for a bad game?" it's "Why should I be punished for another player's bad game?" The line Riot keeps spouting every time anyone complains about being punished unjustly for poor behavior in reaction to another player's poor behavior is typically "The only person you can control is you." Why cant that same logic be applied to LP? Take responsibility for the choices you make. If you pick a short range adc into a bunch of assassins, you need to step up your game. It isn't your team's job to carry you if you make a poor choice in champ select or under preform in game.
A very large amount of ladder anxiety I experience (and this is likely true for most people) is feeling like the climb is all based on luck. Sure, everyone has a bad game sometimes. But it's being punished for other player's poor choices multiple games in a row is the quickest way to have me not play league for 2-3 weeks straight. If I make a handful of bad plays that makes my team lose, it just makes me want to get better. And it isn't fair to my team to lose LP for my bad choices.
ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BAazeesU,comment-id=00010004000000010001,timestamp=2016-10-06T21:11:59.706+0000)
What if your first pick is an immobile ADC, and the entire team picks assassins.
This just changes the dynamic of how each player plays. You can still win or lose the game, but your ADC has to be much more careful in this situation. Their job becomes staying alive and joining the fight late. This would result in lower damage.
What if your top lane plays a low DPS tank, and they are just soaking damage and dying so the team can do what they need to do? What about a split pusher who buys time for the team to take objectives.
Why would a support not play a DPS mage in this case? The they would ensure they lose less LP.
Why would a top lane play a tank instead of DPS?
League of Legends is a team game.
I'm a football fan. Different teams play differently. One team may stack up the running yards, creating huge stats for the running back. Does this mean the loss should count less for the running back than the receivers? Other teams are pass heavy or defense heavy.
Why is it that you want to punish people for having a poor game? In the vast majority of cases, they were trying hard .. just like you. Why should they be punished because the comp wasn't in their favor? Why should they be punished if they are against the best player on the enemy team while you may have done well because you were against their worst?
Intentional feeding is not as prevalent as you may think. Most reports for intentional feeding are because someone did poorly in a game and the reporter needed someone to blame. Remember, when you reach your correct matchmaking rating, you will win/lose 50% of the games.
Actually, I have a bone to pick with your analogy. Regardless of wins/losses; that running backs statistics ARE important and DO effect what happens over time. The guy who runs 100 yards a game (I'm making this up at the moment but bear with me) is open for better contracts, better trades, better endorsements and IS ranked higher than the guy who ran for 20 yards a game but whose team won more. Does he get a super bowl ring out of losing each game even though the player put up monstrous statistics? No, but does his ranking among players improve. YES.
I feel like it's false logic EVERY time you or anyone else at RIOT stress how much it's a team game. Yes. Wins and Losses are team related. Who wins the super bowl is team related. Who wins Nascar is team related, who wins the world series is team related. but in EVERY one of those sports. The INDIVIDUAL performance of any player in the league regardless of wins or losses is taken into account ESPECIALLY for ranking them. Typically the win/loss does play a large factor but it's not everything.
And I feel like that's just it. There's no respect for the consistent player that may not win as much but makes the most out of each game. I've watched heartbroken as my 8/1/11 lead evaporates as my team runs headlong down mid to die. I've been there for the 500 cs, 70 minute game where I'm praying that the zed actually targets their carry this time instead of their full build tank T_T... I've seen the frustration of my duo winning bot lane, pressuring mid lane, taking dragon, only to have top and jg die 32 times.
And the examples go on... and on... and on... the big difference in many real sports is that when you look at those sports, the teams are on similar levels. Each player on the team is on a similar level. They're the 0.01% who made it into professional sports. They're the freaks of nature that can hold 280 lbs on their frame and run a 3.8 40 yard dash. But it's just not comparable to LoL outside of LCS. And honestly, I'd be happy with my teams being on similar levels most of the time. I'm fine with legit losses. Even blowouts. When my teams actually trying, doing what they're supposed to be doing and just losing the plays, I accept it. But from where I'm sitting it's 1 in a dozen losses. I see it all the time. Whether it's 4 people with 2/1/2 type kda's and the random 5th wheel 0/10/0 or the Yasou that went 12/28 and thinks they did the team a favor or a million other scenarios I think there's a VERY BIG PROBLEM with presenting a ranking system that doesn't incorporate ANYTHING about our individual play. I can literally get an S every game (and I've gone on losing streaks where I've had an S in every game) and it's not worth anything? Jokes about the validity of the grading system aside, I've really yet to hear a convincing argument for why we're RANKED in accordance with how our team performs when no other sport in the world does it that way. If Faker was forced to play with B5 trash that fed 10 kills to every kill he got and lost every game... would that make him anything but the single best player to play the game?
Before this becomes a novel I'll make my last point. If it's supposed to be a team game and only a team game... why is the chat so lackluster? Why is finding a team so frustrating? The Team Recruitment forums are honestly a joke. The websites you can go to are just that... other websites and they're not all that great. If there's "team game" win as a team, die as a team... then why isn't there a more concerted, RIOT approved, effort to help players find teams?
Mãge1 votes[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BAazeesU,comment-id=000100040000,timestamp=2016-10-06T19:29:03.337+0000)
So you think having a bad game should be punishable?
What type of punishment do you think you should get for your 0/8 Nasus game?
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2208457265/206718547?tab=overview
What about your 0/7 game?
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2193562514/206718547?tab=overview
Every single person has a bad game from time to time. Even the best pro players have uncharacteristic games and deliver poor scores. There is a serious difference between having a bad game and 'intentionally feeding'.
You are absolutely right that calling someone bad is not acceptable. No, it is not negated by mute. I see this excuse all the time, and it doesn't hold up. You've already seen it, and your other teammates are now being exposed to and affected by your attitude. Negative attitude negatively affects performance of everyone exposed. There are many studies and a lot of data to back this. It also makes a game that is supposed to be fun .. not fun. What are you accomplishing by insulting others? Does it make you feel better? Do you think it's going to make the other person play better?
I don't know about you, but I don't log onto League in the hopes of being discovered by a pro team. I play League and many other video games because I enjoy playing.
Hmm... I wanted to expand on this from my personal perspective, I enjoy playing League specifically because I have a firm belief that Riot is looking out for its players and constantly updating the game in order to make it competitive. I love competing in games and winning - the very clear and in-your-face outplay moments are the moments I play League for, personally.
Plus points if the outplay was so good your opponent most likely threw their hands up in frustration. Yum.
KVbqbFsC8e2 votes[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BAazeesU,comment-id=000100040000,timestamp=2016-10-06T19:29:03.337+0000)
So you think having a bad game should be punishable?
Absolutely. At the very least it should make it so your teammates are not punished. You linked a game where I was 0/8. I had to lane vs the at the time, completely broken recently buffed Irelia, but I did feed and play poorly. I would not mind in the slightest if there was some sort of penalty for that. The second game you linked, 0/7 is irrelevant. My entire team got stomped in that one.
But anyway, you cherry picking some games I had is irrelevant anyway. I could link a bunch of games where I earned an S rank, but was punished with LP loss because my teammates played poorly. It doesn't change the fact that playing poorly in ranked has no punishment whatsoever, but a teammate reacting to it is bannable.
You are absolutely right that calling someone bad is not acceptable. No, it is not negated by mute. I see this excuse all the time, and it doesn't hold up. You've already seen it, and your other teammates are now being exposed to and affected by your attitude. Negative attitude negatively affects performance of everyone exposed. There are many studies and a lot of data to back this. It also makes a game that is supposed to be fun .. not fun. What are you accomplishing by insulting others? Does it make you feel better? Do you think it's going to make the other person play better?
Honestly, I think this entire paragraph is nonsense. Yes, the point of the game is to have fun. But ranked is entirely different. Your logic here is that I could troll ranked games in a not so obvious way, but just use the "im just having fun its a game bro" excuse. That mentality has absolutely no place in Ranked.
I don't know about you, but I don't log onto League in the hopes of being discovered by a pro team. I play League and many other video games because I enjoy playing.
And what is enjoyable about trying to climb but being punished for your teammates playing poorly?
xReadyPlayerOnex1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BAazeesU,comment-id=00010004,timestamp=2016-10-06T05:01:59.677+0000)
Calling an 0-10 player "bad"- harassment and permabannable but completely negated by /mute.
Being 0/10- no punishment whatsoever, teammates cannot do anything about it, you make them lose LP and get them banned if they say anything.
Do you seriously not see any problem with that?
Apparently not. Welcome to ELO hell.
Dominick Destine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=BAazeesU,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-10-05T21:28:16.665+0000)
Your penalty wasn't from not being a plat player. The reports against you were also valid
OH SNAP. Hard 
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This is the best entertainment.
[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]
Zielmann2 votesJust getting a bunch of reports doesn't put you in bad standing, but getting a bunch of valid reports will. Is there something other than supposedly getting a large amount of reports that makes you believe you're not in good standing (recent punishments/still not earning hextech loot/etc)?
Cptn Sodium1 votesstill not earning loot, i got reported afk and had a leaver buster of 10mins each match, i never went afk and my score was like 4/13/7 wasnt feeding, i am just not that good at this game.
SonicÐeHedgedawg1 votesHave you actually received an email of a formal punishment recently though? If not, you should be eligible for rewards again. You may want to file a ticket
KVbqbFsC8e1 votes/mute all at the start of each game.
Oh Look Kaede1 votesI recently recieved a notification in League three weeks ago notifying that I am in good standings now. I never flames or was toxic, I just had bug splats and dced sometimes. My advice would be to just don't leave/afk from games and don't be toxic and flame. Is it worth it to spend months of hard work only to get banned or perma even?
