The league community has gotten so soft... people cant take a joke nowadays without getting butthurt. cyberbullying does not exist if you dont like what someone is saying just mute them... thats why the tribunal system is so flawed why would u report someone for bm if you can just mute them at the start? Answer. Its cuz you dumb idiots do it to yourself. man tf up and if you cant take the trash talk mute them or gtfo...
Jo0o22 votesThe league community needs to man the fuck up.
Learn how to deal with disappointment without lashing out like a damn child. Talk like an adult. Treat your peers with respect. Don't dissolve into a pathetic pile of tears and edgelord cancer memes the minute something doesn't go your way.
MotherCucker2 votesThats what im saying we all playing a goon ass game have fun. too many betas be taking this game to heart.
Jo0o15 votesYou should probably re-read what I said.
redniwediS5 votesHis comment there just made my night. Keep up the good fight Jo0o, you're doing us all proud.
Jo0o5 votes[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
HavokDash3 votesYeah I have seen far too many of this. I actually got out of a remake because our Mid laner DEMANDED (as in Not asking, but demanding) that I play a tank. I refused (I hate people that dictate to me what type of champ they demand I play). So mid throws and infantile tantrum "fine i will make sure you lose" so he picked janna and as soon as the match started, he quit. Thankfully it was able to trigger the remake option.
But alot of these players are so entitled and full of themselves, they think they are the best players ever, so the MOMENT the game presents the Slightest challenge (Hmm, they are a few kills ahead, what do we do?) thier go to reaction is to drop to the ground, kick and scream while flaming thier "trash team" "omg this fukkin team so bad. I cant carry this trash team" and then they turn around and look for the person with the worst kda to "Report for feeding" (spoiler alert, its usually support or jungle) Speaking of, as a support main: please get it through your heads people. Support is NOT A KILL FOCUSED ROLE: Supports job is to keep YOU alive. So no shit support is gonna have more deaths than kills. We often die saving YOUR ass, and letting YOU get away" "OMg report support for feeding, look at ur deaths" (alot of those times were bodyblocking shots meant for last-hit allies or peeling)
People need to grow a spine or go Melt somewhere else like the snowflakes they are. Make League Great Again (And before people say it...I am canadian)
Brotha3 votesTreat your peers with respect.
Respect is EARNED. And like anything which has been earned, it too can be LOST. Obviously Riot policy reigns supreme on this forum/game but in the real world, as an adult, you are not obligated to respect a stranger. Now if that stranger earns your respect through manners, tasteful attire, or some other means that is fine but please do not push this idea EVERYONE must be respected regardless of their lack of accomplishment or contribution to society.
Umbral Regent5 votesYou can have literally zero respect for a given person, but you're still required to treat them with some respect. Even as an adult, you have to treat others with respect - doing otherwise would just result in negative outcomes.
You wouldn't go into a restaurant, place your order, and all the while call the cashier a bitch or a bastard. You wouldn't spew insults at your co-workers in a job from the moment you clock in to the moment you clock out.
Whether you like it or not, you have to treat others with a modicum of respect, even if you hold nothing for them. You can talk all you want about how "respect is earned" and yadda yadda yadda, but at the end of the day, you still treat people with respect, or get nowhere in society.
Brotha2 votesIn your hypothetical scenario you are going out of your way to insult them. True neutrality would be an indifference to them, which is how most people these days handle servers. You see, a lack of respect does not have to equate to DISrespect. Here is a hypothetical scenario:
You go to your favorite restaurant and order a grilled cheese. The server returns 10 minutes later with your order. When you finish she ask if you enjoyed your meal, to which you respond warmly "yes". In that scenario the servers shows genuine interest in your enjoyment, therefore earning your respect at her consideration. Now imagine when she rings you up, she tells you the price of your meal will be significantly more than what you ordered. When you point out her mistake, the server stands by the price until you call over a manager who acknowledges she was wrong. Bam, the server loses all of the respect she had just recently acquired. No disrespect needed.
Jo0o3 votesSurely not everybody is deserving of respect. But when they're your teammates, they should be TREATED as such, or at least be ignored.
I'm only speaking in terms of League games, I'm not some sort of new-age cult leader type.
Xidphel1 votesRespect is EARNED
Doesn't mean "I can treat them however I want." If that were true, not a single person deserves respect.
Umbral Regent16 votescyberbullying does not exist
Wrong.
thats why the tribunal system is so flawed
The Tribunal hasn't been active for years.
why would u report someone for bm if you can just mute them at the start?
Because it doesn't matter if the mute feature exists, rules are rules. If you want to be an ass, you do so at the risk that someone will report you.
The existence of the mute feature does not exempt you from the rules.
MotherCucker3 votesbro your so soft the point of the mute is for if you cant handle the trash talk... What im saying is the rules shouldnt even be there.. whats the point of having an all chat to begin with? So we can say GL Guys Have Fun? thats wack as hell people like you are the reason why the communities ass
Umbral Regent8 votesbro your so soft the point of the mute is for if you cant handle the trash talk...
The point of the mute feature is if you don't want to deal with another player's chat/pings/emotes, it doesn't matter if you "can't handle" anything.
What im saying is the rules shouldnt even be there..
Thankfully, people saying "the rules shouldn't be there" won't magically make the rules disappear. A fact that I thoroughly enjoy.
whats the point of having an all chat to begin with?
A little playful BM (albeit it has to be infrequent), and idle chatter with your enemies. Besides, you never know when you could make a new friend from the opposing team.
So we can say GL Guys Have Fun!?
Yeah? It's not mandatory by any means, but it's considered good sportsmanship to wish your opponents GL/HF. And, as mentioned above, there's still stuff you can do in terms of chatting with your enemies.
Warios10 votesSo how long was your ban?
MotherCucker3 votes[deleted]
MysterQ1 votesDoesn't change the fact either.
General Esdeath 6 votesquality shitpost my friend [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Kei1434 votesyou need to man the fk up and admit you were toxic.
man the fk up to your responsibilities.
MotherCucker3 votessmh boy were talking about league... we play a game with cartoon like characters bruh if your gonna get salty over a stranger trash talking you, you should just delete the game...
Bettnachleger1 votesOr report the trash talking stranger, so he will get a ban ;^)
Modi2 votesYou are upset over the exact same game, enough to create this is post. Do you not see the irony in that?
BeatzBoyFTW4 votesYou literally called someone a "bitch boy" when someone asks how long was your ban. Look who's talking.
Anastaecia3 votes"Manning up" means to do the right thing. It doesn't mean to drag your knuckles on the ground like the other toxic trolls around here.
MysterQ1 votesAnd the right thing is to cause someone to lose their account, lose their time, lose their money?
That is harsh over a few small words in a game. Sounds almost unmanly to want them banned instead of mute and play (official Riot recommendation).
The Cream Reaper3 votescan't handle how the rules work
calls everyone who doesn't agree with him "soft"
kek
fraternity2 votesI agree. People can't take criticism for shit. Most people criticize another so they can get better at the game. But of course most people rely on the report system and completely ignore the criticism and report the other. Of course, he/she gets ban and the reporter doesn't get better at the game. A lose-lose situation.
MotherCucker2 votesThats what im saying trash talking is a win-win situation you get in the other players feeble mind and you force them to play better while getting mad at the same time... People should all strive to be a better version of them self and the report systems and the bans is league trying to help stop bm but in the real world the league system aint gonna save you
Umbral Regent2 votesIf you're getting punished for giving criticism, there are three things that are likely to be in play in such a scenario:
Besides, people don't play this game for backseat gamers and critics. If you want to criticise, do so amongst friends who are learning the game and want the criticism, not amongst random players who don't know you.
fraternity1 votesWhen I first started playing League, I received a lot of criticisms, some were harsh, others were constructive, regardless of which types, they helped me tremendously in improving my game play. Without those "Uninstall noobs", "Get good kid", "Fucking trash", I wouldn't be the player I am today, and I thanks them for that.
But what if no one said when I first started. What if everyone applauds and cheer me when I make a mistake, now that mistake is a goal instead. There is no failure since every move and decision are right and people are being positive, hence, I cannot get better. There is no criticism, no correction, no failure. Everyone is a winner.
Umbral Regent2 votesYou're seeing things way too much in their logical extremes. From what I'm reading, you seem to think the following:
Any criticism is good criticism, and without criticism, you're just being lauded for fucking up.
That's...Not it. At all.
For starters, those instances of "uninstall", "get good", "fucking trash", etc - those are destructive criticisms. Their only goal is to insult and harm, and there is nothing to be gained from them. If those somehow helped you, it was more than likely through negative reinforcement and your own desire to prove them wrong. Their criticism was still terrible.
Second - just because you willingly took criticism from any source, and managed to learn the game through volition and determination, doesn't mean everyone else will. Be mindful of others, and don't start bearing down on people just because you think they'll improve if you get on their case. Odds are, they won't.
And a part of that unwanted criticism helping nothing would very likely be - as I said - it being non-constructive. If you just criticise with no effort made to point out possible other directions to take, and your goal is to help them get better, you are failing, miserably.
But what if no one said when I first started.
You'd likely still learn, perhaps at a slower pace. Perhaps at an equal pace, even.
What if everyone applauds and cheer me when I make a mistake...
They won't. The thought of it alone is asinine, and that you propose it as though it's the only alternative to criticism is even moreso.
There is no failure since every move and decision are right and people are being positive, hence, I cannot get better.
No, there are still failure states. Just because people are being positive or neutral doesn't mean you can't still fail.
Non-social failure states include:
And there are also non-social, non-failure states you can use to determine your growth, like comparing your score to the enemy or your teammates.
But to say "nobody's criticising me so I can't get better" is ignorant, asinine, and just plain wrong. Improvement is an act of volition, and you can only improve if you see room for it and act on it. It doesn't exclusively take criticism to spark it.
Everyone is a winner.
Even when that big, red banner coalesces on the screen with the announcer reading "DEFEAT"?
No. Like I said - even without people telling you "you suck", there are lots of signs to tell you that you can improve.
redniwediS2 votesHow does one man up while still trash talking other people over a game? Seems like the two are mutually exclusive to me, because one requires you to be an adult instead of a fucking child.
Ellis Dee2 votessomebody get this guy out of my safe space he's hurting me.
DestructoDave1 votesIts not soft; its being vindictive. You know you can punish someone with reports. Play games where you dont really have that option, and its amazing how thick your skin is. Its weird how that works. Like me personally; I can go play a game without report options, and get flamed to the ends of the earth, and it doesn't really bother me. But in league, it ACTUALLY bothers me. Because I have recourse for action. I have no way of punishing those people in other games, so I just have to deal with it. But in league, I have the report system, so if that guy says one thing out of the way to me, you bet your ass I'm dropping the hammer on him as soon as we get to post-game; out of pure spite. Its actually kind of interesting how that works and affects me, and other players.
Now, I'm not saying the system should be gone. Some people need reported. But the system is abused to "punish" other players in vindictive ways. Which is why nearly every single game I'm in, someone is asking for reports on someone. Its rare, I mean REALLY rare, that I'm in a game that no one asks for reports or threatens a player with reports.
If I made one change to the system, it would be punishments for false reports, more punishment for threatening with reports. Nowadays, report spam is used as a strong-arm tactic to get someone to play like you want them to. Threatening players with reports is one of the most toxic things in LoL. Its a strong-arm tactic, and nearly every game that happens, that game is over. It just falls apart. Those people asking for reports in all chat should have the hammer dropped on them, and told why. If more and more people would get banned for using reports in vindictive ways, then the system would be better overall. Less trash reports clogging up the system.
fatherdarius1 votesPeople do not need to 'man up', have 'thick skin', etc.
Yet I also suggest there should be no need for a 'safe space'.
Perhaps we should all treat each other in a civilized fashion. conducting ourselves with gentlemanly manners and playing sportsmanlike games.
What ever happened to simple respect? Perhaps It died when the great glorious interwebz allowed people simple anonymity.
But we don't HAVE to be jerks to other people. Even with our electronic anonymity, we can still treat each other with respect.
