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I come back after a long time, I play 5 games of the 10 paired and I'm perma-banned.

Mr Rico Taco··1 votes·674 views

Sorry if my english is not so good, hope u can understand.

I believe Rioters from high elo should review the games, i didnt dodge those games because i didnt want to dodge my first 10 ranked of the season, from the selection of champion you can realize your chances of winning, and with bad compositions it is much easier to see the mistakes from the beginning and give up if things turn bad in early game.

Game 1 Mr Rico Taco: come on shaco Mr Rico Taco: i was freezing lane and u are wasting my time Mr Rico Taco: the easiest lane to gank Mr Rico Taco: f_ck u guys... what the f_ck are ug uyys doing Mr Rico Taco: dont ever do that Mr Rico Taco: if u dont have the damage Mr Rico Taco: fuck u r_t_rd Mr Rico Taco: this game i sover Mr Rico Taco: we cant vs tanks Mr Rico Taco: cd Mr Rico Taco: ff Mr Rico Taco: we cant fight anything...we dont have a frontline, neither vision Mr Rico Taco: thats why u cant kite Mr Rico Taco: this game is over Mr Rico Taco: shaco fix ur st_p_d mentality, u pick an assasin champ, and u dont even build duskblade Mr Rico Taco: not always

The first report game, a shaco n teemo as last picks for our team low cc comp vs tanks with engage (sion + volybear)., shaco with bruiser build no full damage I mean it was simple thing to build a duskblade, camp squishys and climb from there, I mean , u pick something for a job, u dont pick tryndamere for a tank build, there was a yi mid, until level 6 he cant really do something and shaco didnt gank while I was freezing the lane, instead the enemy junlger appear , flash from both and boom ...shaco took those kills but that build was terrible, they told me "u can kite them" ...the last fight started with sion ulti in front of a half team and u cant dodge that with some cc, half of the team death in 2 seconds because of the comp, the worst part is that shaco only ganked top...a Sion, 0 teamfights, 0 early game , 0 drakes, nothing, not a single play from those last picks , that was a free lategame ...again, same history , and I answered angry spam pings.

Game 2 Mr Rico Taco: id__t Mr Rico Taco: f_ck this Mr Rico Taco: no becuase i dont want to Mr Rico Taco: i dont care Mr Rico Taco: u piece of sh_t Mr Rico Taco: this game is over since champ select Mr Rico Taco: sure ...taly top Mr Rico Taco: pls report top Mr Rico Taco: and support

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Second game, champ select the last pick is a Talyha top (I want to dodge the game but it would be another loss in the first 10 ranked of the season, at least try.... or plan B let those 10 games go and climb), we invade, the top troll Talyha does not follow the team when being the champion with better early between us / the support Braum after being saved from dying during the fight he gets back with low health in a fight of level 1 where he had full vision and ignored pings, only staying with nonesense giving first blood to my line opponent (the issue becomes tilting), at lvl 2 the support Braum suggests me to change the line with top, when I dont want to , if it's better for roam Talyha ...yes, but why should i change the lane with a troll ? , even if Talyha was mid and roam to botlane, I could not follow Renekton and my poke would not be something good against someone with sustain, plus Taly is better champ in long walks , spam that Q , and for me is a better champ to disengage a Renekton or Volybear plus the tp for a long journey to the lane and passive, total to his insistence I gave him an insult to Braum and mute for spamming,...I was against a Galio with teleport and jungler was afk farming, I could not get him out of the line because of his tp and firstblood item with sustain and he had everything to roam in addition to my jungle that never came to mid thinking that we could take the tower with my w , whatever, they blame you because you do not have tp, or you do not have a roaming ulti and a lot of wards and u dont want to facecheck a fed champ tank with a stack item, everything was lost . a mistake from Top pick , the inting support at early game and 0 pressure in the splitpushers lanes, the blame for me continue because I didnt want to change the lane , or follow a galio into a bush or facechecks some bushes...still i warded but obviusly is not the same.

In a third that does not appear in the report but appear in the history, a warwick started ganking my lane in a terrible moment , stealing minions since earlygame , giving lvl 2 to my rival first, plus I wasted my summoners in a lvl1 invade that ww didnt participate, since then this game was over, poked out of the lane, the jungler didnt help with smart ganks, with a normal level 3 -6 gank from from a skarner I was done, plus another tp to save the botlane. Jayce coming top to just steal some minions and ww pushing my lane at some moments, trying to tp or use ulti to help others everytime , at somepoint I was far behind from GP and ww and jayce baiting me or refusing to follow my ulti when they are starting the teamfight, they just leave me to die everytime instead to keep fighting (thats the reason of my kda, my mistakes too , shouldnt trust in those players and maybe a bad build from me).

Whatever i ll start again, just wanted to share. Thanks for reading.

24 Comments

ModPeriscope3 votes

Pretty much most of your lines were negative, so I do think a punishment was warranted. If you had a prior 2-week ban, then this was the next stop, even if it were 4 months ago. You have to play non-negative games to get your account into good standing.

Mr Rico Taco1 votes

Tell me something, Do you like to lose games? ,Do you like to have a bad composition? or...Do you like to have a good composition like most LCS teams?

I can accept if i lose with a good comp and teamates, It can be a funny match, but i cant support people that are actually trolling and spamming or afk until min 2:59 and because of that i cant remake and get the same chance to win ,yes I muted them still the problem persist because u ignore them and the only problem are they trying to force u to do bad calls, thing what they are doing is putting you under pressure, at this point are u happy? ...of couse not, Any man can express himself in many ways and perspectives, whos wrong? n who doesnt?, at this point, RIOT is against the culture of television and cinemas now? How many athletes do not say curses?...Sneaky is cursing a lot in a funny way maybe but still a curse is a curse, there are a lot of streamers cursing right now more than I did , How many video games do not include curses? a 70%, 30% with curses , music? , etc..a lot of things, people from every country,

The main problem here is that RIOT doesnt want an option to permaban ur chat, because they want to permaban ur account, and u ll spend money or time to start again.

Do u remember that "toxic" guy from apple? , Steve Jobs. Not everything can be shiny gold and diamonds in this world, not everything is good, sometimes the worst part of u is the best that u can do for others.

AraMoOse5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mr Rico Taco,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AvLiEtQA,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-25T07:45:13.157+0000)

Tell me something, Do you like to lose games? ,Do you like to have a bad composition? or...Do you like to have a good composition like most LCS teams?

I can accept if i lose with a good comp and teamates, It can be a funny match, but i cant support people that are actually trolling and spamming or afk until min 2:59 and because of that i cant remake and get the same chance to win ,yes I muted them still the problem persist because u ignore them and the only problem are they trying to force u to do bad calls, thing what they are doing is putting you under pressure, at this point are u happy? ...of couse not, Any man can express himself in many ways and perspectives, whos wrong? n who doesnt?, at this point, RIOT is against the culture of television and cinemas now? How many athletes do not say curses?...Sneaky is cursing a lot in a funny way maybe but still a curse is a curse, there are a lot of streamers cursing right now more than I did , How many video games do not include curses? a 70%, 30% with curses , music? , etc..a lot of things, people from every country,

The main problem here is that RIOT doesnt want an option to permaban ur chat, because they want to permaban ur account, and u ll spend money or time to start again.

Do u remember that "toxic" guy from apple? , Steve Jobs. Not everything can be shiny gold and diamonds in this world, not everything is good, sometimes the worst part of u is the best that u can do for others.

no YOU tell ME something.

Do you like to be insulted by random strangers on the internet? No, you don't so don't do it. That is all.

Somehow I think you may have misunderstood Jobs' message if you believe he meant "Rage at strangers in video games".

SorenAlucard1 votes

I think YOU and many others miss the point that it doesn't matter if we like what you say or not, because we all have agency to silence each other.

I say mute more nit pick less

(no nitpicking does not mean exclude racism etc from punishment, but if someone says "ur fkn stupid" you can giggle as you click the button that shuts them up)

Problem Solved. Do we really need a whining system on top of that? I think unless they're talking like a KKK member you can keep your big kid pants on and click the button.

AraMoOse2 votes

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I think YOU and many others miss the point that it doesn't matter if we like what you say or not, because we all have agency to silence each other.

I say mute more nit pick less

(no nitpicking does not mean exclude racism etc from punishment, but if someone says "ur fkn stupid" you can giggle as you click the button that shuts them up)

Problem Solved. Do we really need a whining system on top of that? I think unless they're talking like a KKK member you can keep your big kid pants on and click the button.

The mute button is only useful to avoid FURTHER abuse. If I have to mute you, it's because you're already abusive and it means you will get a report as well.

You're allowed to have different expectations. If you are interested in tolerating abuse, that is your business. I am not interested in being abused, and I am using the means at my disposal for preventing it. That is my business.

SorenAlucard1 votes

I've heard that argument before, but past the point of agency what you deem as abuse is subjective. Does that make sense?

Like if I say to you "that play was stupid man cmon" might be as offensive to you as "you're an effin moron". Then another person hears the same thing and isn't offended. There will never be a way to draw a defined line in the sand as to what's "toxic" vs "mean" vs "not nice" vs "not bad at all".

But its all even at the mute point. You make the call and its over for you. No debate needed.

AraMoOse1 votes

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I've heard that argument before, but past the point of agency what you deem as abuse is subjective. Does that make sense?

Like if I say to you "that play was stupid man cmon" might be as offensive to you as "you're an effin moron". Then another person hears the same thing and isn't offended. There will never be a way to draw a defined line in the sand as to what's "toxic" vs "mean" vs "not nice" vs "not bad at all".

But its all even at the mute point. You make the call and its over for you. No debate needed.

If I punch you in the face and you are then able to protect yourself with a helmet, have I still caused damage?

(Edited to add)

Better still : Is the existence of helmets justification to punch people in the face? After all, if they didn't want to get hurt, they'd just put a helmet on, right?

SorenAlucard1 votes

That would be a good counter argument if physical violence was really equated to "verbal" assault.

But its not. A hit to the face is a hit to the face. Pretty easy to draw a line. Words are different. Theres X ways to use them and X ways for the recipient to get the wrong message. Re read what I said the first time about subjectivity.

Also Last I checked (depending on the helmet) yes it was indeed created for the effect of absorbing punches to your head. People who wear them indeed are expecting punches to the face in some cases. But that doesn't really matter because this is a bad analogy for the topic lol

AraMoOse1 votes

{quoted}

That would be a good counter argument if physical violence was really equated to "verbal" assault.

But its not. A hit to the face is a hit to the face. Pretty easy to draw a line. Words are different. Theres X ways to use them and X ways for the recipient to get the wrong message. Re read what I said the first time about subjectivity.

Also Last I checked (depending on the helmet) yes it was indeed created for the effect of absorbing punches to your head. People who wear them indeed are expecting punches to the face in some cases. But that doesn't really matter because this is a bad analogy for the topic lol

If it were the case that people were getting banned for saying "That was a stupid play", once, to a single person, then I'd take your argument about subjectivity a bit more seriously. Unfortunately (for your argument), this is NOT the case. It isn't even remotely the case. In fact it's a complete red herring and I almost wonder if it is intentionally thrown in here to distract from the actual conversation.

You can read the chat logs of the people who come here complaining about their 'unfair bans for saying something super mild'. I'll let you guess how often the 'something super mild' is actually the vilest verbal abuse imaginable (I will give you a hint, it's roughly 100%).

If I don't want to be told I made a mistake, I can mute the annoying guy who thinks he's helping and be done with it. No harm, no foul. The situation is not the same when we talk about verbal abuse.

Verbal abuse hurts. Sometimes it can hurt as much as a punch in the face, sometimes more. Muting them does not repair the harm that has been done, nor does it do anything to change the abusers' behavior. What we want is for that person to stop abusing people, not just me.

SorenAlucard1 votes

And there is the difference. Verbal abuse is subjective so you can't draw a line across it. You think that someone's feelings getting hurt is the same as physical violence.

Its not.

AraMoOse1 votes

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And there is the difference. Verbal abuse is subjective so you can't draw a line across it. You think that someone's feelings getting hurt is the same as physical violence.

Its not.

Well, mister mind reader sir, I wonder if you can make your point without misrepresenting mine. If you can't, it seems like a passive admission that your point is not valid.

SorenAlucard1 votes

No mind reading required? And the following statement is illogical?

ModPeriscope1 votes

Curses in and of themselves are not punishable. It's when you use them to harass and insult others that it becomes a problem. You've been told previously through other punishments that this is not acceptable.

Permanent chat restrictions were previously tried, and people just found other ways to be toxic. Frankly, a permanent chat restriction seems like an easy pass for someone who's unwilling to change their behavior.

Mr Rico Taco1 votes

" unwilling to change their behavior." , sure bro, SEEMS LIKE U KNOW ME FOR SURE, YOU MUST BE MY SOULMATE, I am trying to be toxic that is the reason that i didnt mute them...o wait , i did ;

7 words in what....50 minutes aprox, plus with:

  • teamates with bad picks
  • bad behaviour because that doesnt appear in this report, a lot of spam pings and terrible tryhard calls.

BUT WHO CARES ABOUT A FACT , the fact that u cant win easily , the fact that no one want to lose a game, the fact that if u are not playing with some champs in the meta and instead u are trying to play shaco as a tank will be better , "oooooh yeeahh!!!! ,I ll be happy to play a norma champ for u to troll this game with a bad squishy pick everyone vs tanks, and still u change ur mind and u build warmog in shaco and still u ll keep trying to be somekind of assesin shaco"..."SO FUNNY!!!" then whats the point of the tank build if u are not a frontline????, BECAUSE, for me this game is a strategy game from 5 peoples and people can cooperate or not, thats a problem, , another way to be a toxic or troll players is to keep feeding, let people die for nothing when the shotcaller refuse to follow his own call, or people who want to be shotcallers and they are terrible because they dont think what they are doing, but lets put some pressure in the teamates and spam ping until they follow , things like "oooooooo YEAHHH lets gooo baron with 0 vision while top and mid splitpush and when the enemy team is alive and near", who fucking cares if is a terrible call i need to follow his call because if not they are going to report me and permaban me.

ModPeriscope1 votes

There's a very low threshold for toxicity following a 2 week ban.

Your account standing only improves after playing clean games.

Sorry I can't bring you better news. If you haven't already, you can contact support and discuss your case with them.

Omg Hay Gurl3 votes

Let the hate flow my child.

SorenAlucard1 votes

ABSOLUTE, UNLIMITED POWAHHHHH

S1ckAduCk2 votes

Totally deserved toxic abusive and negative

Mr Rico Taco1 votes

Now it turns out that I have to be someone happy and cooperative, when they choose garbage for the team composition, for their mistakes I have to pay the price, change ur lane, who cares that u are the midlane, go top, and top go mid, or this will much better, Janna go mid, because they go with terrible picks that compromise the game from the beginning and neither the statistics are good i still need to follow their terrible call, ooooohnh what fun it is to lose games, oooo it s fun to waste the time, lets give the enemy free lp, afk farming gusy and surrender at 15 because our early picks need more farm to lategame items , yeah...lets surreneder , ohhh yeahhhh , as a support braum I want a kill at level 1 so I will stay with low health near the fight and I will walk into them get in the enemy range and die, just to help them not even use flash ,,, WHAT A FUNNNY GAME, then i will blame the midlane because i just fed a Galio.

thefourtysn1 votes

Toxic=Banned (latta bi***)

Ifneth1 votes

You were toxic and got banned. Good riddance. Don’t make another account. I hope not to see you in my games.

Mr Rico Taco1 votes

So I need to be happy when players are picking troll champs because they refuse to buy or play some 450 be champ like garen in a ranked , trying to play talya vs renekton and leaving a team w squishys vs meta with 2 tanks support and carrys, to end in a squishy team vs tanks where they are focusing in fight vs the tanks instead to the kill the carry, when some of those squishy players build things from tanks and still keep trying to be an assasin with nonsense, or lets make a bad call and spam, then let them die, and blame them because they followed my terrible call, dont expect me to be a nice guys if u are trying to force me with spamm and terrible calls to do something i dont want to.

Ifneth1 votes

Taliyah “Sounds like somebody needs a nap!”

Edit: I shouldn’t have said this. It makes Amumu look bad.

AraMoOse1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mr Rico Taco,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AvLiEtQA,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-02-26T01:34:31.375+0000)

So I need to be happy when players are picking troll champs because they refuse to buy or play some 450 be champ like garen in a ranked , trying to play talya vs renekton and leaving a team w squishys vs meta with 2 tanks support and carrys, to end in a squishy team vs tanks where they are focusing in fight vs the tanks instead to the kill the carry, when some of those squishy players build things from tanks and still keep trying to be an assasin with nonsense, or lets make a bad call and spam, then let them die, and blame them because they followed my terrible call, dont expect me to be a nice guys if u are trying to force me with spamm and terrible calls to do something i dont want to.

No, not be happy. Simply not rage at them.

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