TUCK FOU RITO

Oceans Breath··2 votes·1,253 views

Straight the fuck up, ritos feedback system is beyond garbage. YOUR TEAM CAN FUCKING FLAME WHOEVER THEY WANT BUT THE MOMENT YOU DEFNED YOURSELF OR YOUR TEAM MATES FROM A DOUCHE BAG, BOOM, YOURE FUCKING MUTED,SUSPENDED, BANNED. FUCKING RETARDED. I do not understand why RIOT doesn't fucking CHECK the TEXT history themselves NO THEY USE A FUCKING MACHINE that detects what words you said and if its "TOO HARSH" it punishes you. LAZY FUCKING DUNTS MAN. FUCKING BROKEN ASS FEEDBACK SYSTEM BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST TRYING TO DEFEND THEIR TEAM MATES GET BANNED TOO. ITS FUCKING STUPID AND IDGAF if I lose all rights to using board which is also funny how they actually have a mod to watch this shit BUT READING FUCKING COMMS NONONO THATS TOO MUCH WORK. LOOK AT ME, I RATHER MAKE A FUCKING BOT BAN ANYONE WHO SAYS THE WORD "%%%GOT" literally you get insta punished. fucking stupid. this game has dropped to a fucking 10 years and under game. garbage.

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ModUlanopo13 votes

LOOK AT ME, I RATHER MAKE A FUCKING BOT BAN ANYONE WHO SAYS THE WORD "%%%GOT" literally you get insta punished. fucking stupid.

I'm gonna stop you right there. Both the League community and Riot have ZERO tolerance for that, regardless of context. That's never going to change, regardless of what you might consider more important.

As to the larger point, "defending yourself" isn't a thing. If you bumped your cart into someone at the supermarket and got into a screaming match with them, the manager isn't going to come ask which of you started it. He or she is simply going to ask you both to leave. That's just the reality of life as an adult.

DarkPh0enix1 votes

Context should always matter, but that's my take.

ModUlanopo4 votes

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Context should always matter, but that's my take.

This brings up the question of competing rights. We're not saying that context is irrelevant. We're saying that context is significantly less of a consideration than the experience of the other people in the match not involved in the conflict.

unreformed af1 votes

Both the League community and Riot have ZERO tolerance for that, regardless of context.

not only is this sentence inaccurate, you are expecting me to believe the League community and Riot have zero tolerance? if that's really true, please explain the 90% of the posts in PB&M full of complaints of trolls/feeders/afkers/flamers. yet the perpetrators continue to litter our games like an infectious virus. yet riot, a game company that has a net worth of 1.6 billion, is doing absolutely nothing to come up with a solution that actually works. they [riot] and we [summoners] don't give a SHIT about it. i say we have 110% tolerance for the utter cancer and disgusting filth this game has become. those that actually care about this issue is minuscule -- a microorganism compared to this can of worms. stop trying to sugarcoat with your public relation bullshit. it's going to smell like shit even if you sprinkled sugar on a pile of shit.

If you bumped your cart into someone at the supermarket and got into a screaming match with them, the manager isn't going to come ask which of you started it. He or she is simply going to ask you both to leave. That's just the reality of life as an adult.

this is the most retarded analogy that i have ever heard. how the fuck does bumping your cart into someone compare to getting harassed from trolls or getting reported multiple times from premades? as for "defending yourself", i'm from the old school. i'm not going to sit idle like a fucking pansy and cry about my feelings when my back is against the wall. you're getting a nice knuckle sandwich to the face.

ModPrandine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=unreformed af,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Ani0whVN,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2017-02-13T02:20:02.383+0000)

not only is this sentence inaccurate, you are expecting me to believe the League community and Riot have zero tolerance? if that's really true, please explain the 90% of the posts in PB&M full of complaints of trolls/feeders/afkers/flamers. yet the perpetrators continue to litter our games like an infectious virus. yet riot, a game company that has a net worth of 1.6 billion, is doing absolutely nothing to come up with a solution that actually works. they [riot] and we [summoners] don't give a SHIT about it. i say we have 110% tolerance for the utter cancer and disgusting filth this game has become. those that actually care about this issue is minuscule -- a microorganism compared to this can of worms. stop trying to sugarcoat with your public relation bullshit. it's going to smell like shit even if you sprinkled sugar on a pile of shit.

You act like it's a simple problem that can be solved with just the snap of the finger. Unfortunately this is not the case. The behavioral systems have to make sure that someone is actually trolling before it can actually ban them. How does it find out about specific types of trolling? Through player-made reports. Obviously the system isn't perfect (there's always room for improvement with it) and players can sometimes slip through the cracks from time to time but gameplay trolls do get punished as well. In case you don't believe me Here are two examples of gameplay trolls being banned. Yes it's just two examples, but it proves that they do get punished.

this is the most retarded analogy that i have ever heard. how the fuck does bumping your cart into someone compare to getting harassed from trolls or getting reported multiple times from premades? as for "defending yourself", i'm from the old school. i'm not going to sit idle like a fucking pansy and cry about my feelings when my back is against the wall. you're getting a nice knuckle sandwich to the face.

Being harassed by trolls? Use the mute button on them or kill them with kindness. A premade group troll reporting you? As long as you do nothing to actually validate their reports against you then you won't get in trouble and the reports will be thrown out.* Accidentally bumped your shopping cart into someone at the store? Just apologize, see if they're okay and then just move on, or alert an employee or a manager if they're the ones who keep bumping into you on purpose.

None of these choices involve becoming a jerk and making everyone else around you miserable. More importantly none of these choices put yourself at risk of getting in trouble for poor behavior.

*From Riot Tantram:

Actually, Erdrik is correct here.

A report flags a game for review. They do not establish guilt. The game is then reviewed for harassment, feeding, etc. This is why 'troll reporting' or 'gang reporting' do not work. False or inaccurate reports are thrown out.

You cannot ever be punished for saying nothing .. unless of course it's for something gameplay related like feeding, afking or cheating. But, you can never be punished for offensive language, hate speech or verbal abuse if you said nothing.

unreformed af1 votes

You act like it's a simple problem that can be solved with just the snap of the finger. Unfortunately this is not the case.

and you're acting like this shit happened just now. this has been happening since season 2 when i started playing. ever since riot killed tribunal and haven't brought it back for years, the cancer is ever growing and they are doing absolutely nothing to stop it, even with the resources of a 1.5 billion net worth. you can probably create the most articulate security/toxicity control program with that money. but what's riot's priority? "TWO THOUSAND MORE REPORTS? NAH, GOTTA FINISH THESE BLOOD MOON SKINS SO WE CAN EXTORT MORE MONEY FROM THESE IMBECILES DURHUR". i know you can't fix things with a snap of a finger, but it's been happening for 5 years. that's half a fucking decade. if riot was an independent business, it would be in fucking shambles from the toxicity.

In case you don't believe me Here are two examples of gameplay trolls being banned. Yes it's just two examples, but it proves that they do get punished.

laughable and utter garbage examples. two examples compared to how many reports coming in? compared to how many trolls/feeders/afkers/flamers ruining our games? no wonder this game is the cancer that it is. what i'm more interested in is some actual fucking data that riot is actually working to solve this.

Being harassed by trolls? Use the mute button on them or kill them with kindness. A premade group troll reporting you? As long as you do nothing to actually validate their reports against you then you won't get in trouble and the reports will be thrown out.

i've tried mute. i've tried report. i've tried every possible thing and it doesn't work, hence the numerous amounts of posts in PB&M that continues to grow. i'm repeating myself -- and no, multiple reports work. which is why i have a 25-day ban from merely 3 games. done by 3 different premades. which i don't really care for anyways, since i started playing SC2. a game that you can actually enjoy and has competent admins that fixes problems.

Accidentally bumped your shopping cart into someone at the store? Just apologize, see if they're okay and then just move on, or alert an employee or a manager if they're the ones who keep bumping into you on purpose.

what is this? the fucking SIMS? take care of your problems yourself since the store hasn't done shit for 5 years.

From Riot Tantrum

what a trash quote that contradicts my predicament and hundreds of other summoners. he can't even manage his team, even worse the game so why should i believe anything that comes out of that clown's mouth?

ModPrandine1 votes

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and you're acting like this shit happened just now. this has been happening since season 2 when i started playing. ever since riot killed tribunal and haven't brought it back for years, the cancer is ever growing and they are doing absolutely nothing to stop it,

I've been playing since S2 myself as well (never been warned or banned though), and I'm well aware that toxicity has been around forever. Obviously as the game grows so too does its playerbase, but from what I've seen Riots ways of encouraging people to reform has actually gotten better over the years. Not only because the systems they've implemented since they started have gotten better (Tribunal was a good start, the Instant Feedback System improves on that system), but players also have more incentives to reform now than they did before with the implementation of Mystery Gifting and Hextech Crafting.

Now with that being said obviously the IFS could still be improved and yes Riot could still do a better job at helping people understand why they were punished. I just think it's silly to claim that Riot is doing nothing to help curb toxicity when we have proof that they are (i.e. numerous Riot posts on the subject, a dev blog discussing Prisoner's Island, multiple people complaining about their "unfair" punishments, etc.).

even with the resources of a 1.5 billion net worth. you can probably create the most articulate security/toxicity control program with that money. but what's riot's priority? "TWO THOUSAND MORE REPORTS? NAH, GOTTA FINISH THESE BLOOD MOON SKINS SO WE CAN EXTORT MORE MONEY FROM THESE IMBECILES DURHUR". i know you can't fix things with a snap of a finger, but it's been happening for 5 years. that's half a fucking decade. if riot was an independent business, it would be in fucking shambles from the toxicity.

It's a common misconception that Riot has one team working on everything one at a time. This is untrue-the skins team is different from the player behavior team. Also, Riot is fully aware that there will always be people who only care about making others miserable, but they're also aware that people will have bad games from time to time.

laughable and utter garbage examples. two examples compared to how many reports coming in? compared to how many trolls/feeders/afkers/flamers ruining our games? no wonder this game is the cancer that it is. what i'm more interested in is some actual fucking data that riot is actually working to solve this.

You claimed that Riot doesn't ban griefers. I provided two examples that prove otherwise.

i've tried mute. i've tried report. i've tried every possible thing and it doesn't work, hence the numerous amounts of posts in PB&M that continues to grow. i'm repeating myself -- and no, multiple reports work. which is why i have a 25-day ban from merely 3 games. done by 3 different premades. which i don't really care for anyways, since i started playing SC2. a game that you can actually enjoy and has competent admins that fixes problems.

There's no such thing as a 25-day ban. There is a 25-game chat restriction yes, but the only bans are for 2-weeks or are permanent. Also I read your ban complaint thread: you constantly called people autistic, claimed that someone had downs and just constantly whined and complained about your teammates using whatever insult you could think of whenever they did something you didn't like. It doesn't take a genius to tell that that kind of behavior is definitely punishment worthy, and whether or not a premade reported you is purely coincidental and nothing more.

what is this? the fucking SIMS? take care of your problems yourself since the store hasn't done shit for 5 years.

I said and I quote:

or alert an employee or a manager if they're the ones who keep bumping into you on purpose.

Yes you can ignore it or try to solve the problem yourself, but if you know that they have no intention of stopping with the harassing of you or others then that's when you need to alert the people who are actually paid to handle it rather than make the situation worse yourself.

what a trash quote that contradicts my predicament and hundreds of other summoners. he can't even manage his team, even worse the game so why should i believe anything that comes out of that clown's mouth?

You were punished based on your behavior alone. At this point it's clear that you're still mad that you got busted for behaving poorly and seem to have some sort of vendetta against Riot because of it. If you don't want to believe them that's your choice, but who would you want to believe?

Riot, the company who has a proven track record with player behavior and is actually working on ways to improve their PB systems.

OR

A banned troll rager who is more interested in raging and dismissing evidence than they are at actually improving the system or their behavior.

I don't know about you but I'd rather go with the former than the latter.

unreformed af1 votes

Not only because the systems they've implemented since they started have gotten better (Tribunal was a good start, the Instant Feedback System improves on that system), but players also have more incentives to reform now than they did before with the implementation of Mystery Gifting and Hextech Crafting.

except for the fact that mystery gifting and hextech crafting is just a switch and bait tactic because you only gain a limited amount, whether you are reformed or not. it's not an incentive and it never was. i don't know where you are getting the assumption that people are reforming since their implementation.

I just think it's silly to claim that Riot is doing nothing to help curb toxicity when we have proof that they are (i.e. numerous Riot posts on the subject, a dev blog discussing Prisoner's Island, multiple people complaining about their "unfair" punishments, etc.).

none of the examples you listed "curb toxicity". it has actually increased the amount of ragers/feeders/afkers/flamers. in fact, you listing that people are complaining about "unfair" punishment is a testament that the cancer is still growing. i can say what riot is good at, is making examples out of people. scapegoating. a fucking shady, out-of-pocket, simp shit, which is a perfect description of what riot is.

Also, Riot is fully aware that there will always be people who only care about making others miserable, but they're also aware that people will have bad games from time to time.

and yet numbers and statistics are proving time and time again that the latter is just bullshit.

There's no such thing as a 25-day ban. There is a 25-game chat restriction yes, but the only bans are for 2-weeks or are permanent.

when i said a 25-day ban, i was implying the 25-game chat ban. it was a mistype.

Also I read your ban complaint thread: you constantly called people autistic, claimed that someone had downs and just constantly whined and complained about your teammates using whatever insult you could think of whenever they did something you didn't like. It doesn't take a genius to tell that that kind of behavior is definitely punishment worthy, and whether or not a premade reported you is purely coincidental and nothing more.

i think "whenever they did something you didn't like" is a fucking understatement. sure i was defending myself. but team was intentionally feeding. team was taking my cs because they didn't get their role. team was flaming me. what they were doing was ruining the game experience of other players. wait, isn't that what riot calls "unacceptable"? yet they are still playing the game without consequences. GOOD JOB riot! you punished the person that was calling shit, shit! and the shit that continues to be shit is still playing your shit game!

Yes you can ignore it or try to solve the problem yourself, but if you know that they have no intention of stopping with the harassing of you or others then that's when you need to alert the people who are actually paid to handle it rather than make the situation worse yourself.

here we go again, repeating myself. you keep saying the word "alert". so should i mail a letter the size of a fucking billboard to riot about this? cause they sure are silent about it. the people that i have reported are still playing, even at this moment.i told you that i've done everything i can. and it's not working. stop giving solutions that don't work.

You were punished based on your behavior alone. At this point it's clear that you're still mad that you got busted for behaving poorly and seem to have some sort of vendetta against Riot because of it. If you don't want to believe them that's your choice, but who would you want to believe?

thanks for your false, and very imprudent presumption of what i feel about my chat ban. for your info, i'm not mad at all and i don't have a vendetta. i've given a game company a chance to prove themselves and they didn't show up. so i'm taking my money, and my sanity elsewhere. since i've started SC2, i'm seeing a better community, fast fixes on bugs and issues, and a competent administration that supports and works with their population. riot has none of those.

Riot, the company who has a proven track record with player behavior and is actually working on ways to improve their PB systems.

OR

A banned troll rager who is more interested in raging and dismissing evidence than they are at actually improving the system or their behavior.

I don't know about you but I'd rather go with the former than the latter.

loving that little snide, passive aggressive comment . acting just like a little bitch that dick rides a game company that doesn't give a shit about you. quite sad really. and nope, you nor riot has given any evidence that a solution is being implemented to fix this cancerous problem.

Reket DeAlk9 votes

Looks like the system is working just fine actually.

Oceans Breath1 votes

look guy, everyone in this community knows that the league community is one of the most toxic ones out there. but fucking FORCING everyone to play with /mute all is stupid as well. its literally coming down to just not talking at all and acting like a bot. if you think that's a fucking good game your're out there man.

LostFr0st8 votes

They aren't forcing /mute all though. They just want people not to flame back since it doesn't help anything and just makes it worse. You don't have to ignore it, just don't make it worse.

Zezockary4 votes

I have never once typed "/mute all" until just now replying to you. It is rare that I mute anybody, actually. I talk to my teammates all the time. We share stories, jokes, and helpful advice.

ModUlanopo6 votes

look guy, everyone in this community knows that the league community is one of the most toxic ones out there.

I have yet to meet someone making this assertion who has any evidence of it. It's always anecdotes and confirmation bias.

Limmie1 votes

Well it's not like anyone besides Riot (and the owners of the other games) has access to any hard data regarding it in the first place.

ModUlanopo3 votes

{quoted}

Well it's not like anyone besides Riot (and the owners of the other games) has access to any hard data regarding it in the first place.

Exactly. That's why all the "it's well known" arguments are pretty useless.

It would be much better to say things like "this is what I see in my League matches and this is how I feel about it."

SavageConcordia1 votes

I talk regularly in games and have never gotten so much as a warning but, you know, it's probably Rito

Limmie1 votes

They don't force anyone to play with mute all. Which is probably the whole problem, the game would be so much better if they actually did that.

YerroFever2 votes

You are responsible for your actions and others are responsible for their actions.

Your response is what got you punished. You could have chosen to respond differently, but you didn't.

Ambient Snow2 votes

sniff sniff is.. is is that a ban I smell?

seriously if a game upsets you that much that you have to come and rage on forums -.-

you may want to rethink the types of games you play and go play something else

Alpha Samsuni1 votes

....tuck you

TehChaosWolf1 votes

I have never received a warning or ban.. and I've been playing for years. saying riot "makes you play with mute all" or punishes unfairly is just blame shifting.. You said what you said, and they punished you for it. for all you know, they punished the others as well. However, having some self control and simply not responding has left me with a nice account, all champs, and not a single fear of being banned.. You can't blame riot for you flying off the handle. Its a game. if you aren't having fun, play something else?

Rory691 votes

best comment 2017 contender you have my upvote these cry babys get hand held over the stupidest shit.........use the report system for intent feeding, afk, trolling we don't need it for baby liberal snowflakes that QQ worse then my 2 year old. atleast take both sides of chat into context and have it either mitigate the punishment if defending yourself was what you were doing.............. GARBAGE SYSTEM LAZY PEOPLE RITO I WILL NEVER SPEND MONEY ON THIS GAME AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO STOP SPENDING MONEY

Challenger Ahri3 votes

{quoted}

best comment 2017 contender you have my upvote these cry babys get hand held over the stupidest shit.........use the report system for intent feeding, afk, trolling we don't need it for baby liberal snowflakes that QQ worse then my 2 year old. atleast take both sides of chat into context and have it either mitigate the punishment if defending yourself was what you were doing.............. GARBAGE SYSTEM LAZY PEOPLE RITO I WILL NEVER SPEND MONEY ON THIS GAME AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO STOP SPENDING MONEY

That poor 2 year old...I can't imagine him/her dealing with a father like you. Ugh.

Jorencice1 votes

Lol right?

Lets hear him say that when his daughter kills herself after near constant harrasment in school.

Hell be like "she deserved it, fucking snowflake"

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