In my opinion perm-banned accounts, should be unbanned next season, and see if their behavior has changed what so ever, if their behavior hasn't changed in any ways, they should remain perm banned if so, my point is people work hard just to get banned, If someone has had a bad day they cant help it to take it out on someone who pisses them off more, but you can't blame them, there's a mute button for a reason and it's not there to be looked at, or hovered over
RallerenP4 votesNo. They already ran such an experiment, and it had a 95% failure rate.
If someone really cared about their account they wouldn't have been permabanned. They'd just play by the rules even if they didn't agree with them.
If someone has had a bad day they cant help it to take it out on someone who pisses them off more, but you can't blame them,
I absolutely can, everyone is 100% responsible for their own account, and the activity on it. If you lack the self control to not be toxic then you shouldn't play.
there's a mute button for a reason and it's not there to be looked at, or hovered over
That is so not an excuse. If I have to mute you it means you already, intentionally, ruined my mood.
Lord Thresh1 votesBut yeah, What if you're drunk and half dead not knowing what you're doing
Killer30001892 votesYou chose to get drunk, you're responsible
RallerenP6 votesYou aren't excempt from the rules if you're drunk. What a bad argument. If you can't avoid be a dick when drunk, then don't play when drunk.
elo trash1 votesmetios sure was exempt :) although I still agree with what you are saying
Chermorg2 votesYou’re responsible for your actions while drunk...
Actually, in many cases, being intoxicated actually carries higher penalties in real life. You don’t get to use that as an excuse.
Sarutobi4 votesSo despite them already getting a number of chances (assuming they follow the tiers of punishment) you want them to get yet another chance? Let alone the fact (like others have said) they had tried this and it failed. If you really cared about your account, you wouldnt get it ban. Yes people have bad days, everyone has. Yet if thats the case why is it that most people havent been punished? Ive been playing for a great number of years and yet i havent even see so much as a warning for my behavior. Do you know why? Because I dont break the rules. When i see a toxic player I ignore/mute them. What a lot of people like yourself dont realize, and is possibly one of the oldest rules of the internet, is to not Take the Bait. People do these things to get your reaction. You dont give it to them they will either keep on doing it (which in turns gives more incentive to report them and get them ban) or stop. But no, people like you NEED to react and thus let them win. Not sure why anyone would want them to win.
But no, i dont believe they need yet another chance, especially since statistically speaking they will more than likely continue to be toxic, or troll, or do what ever rule breaking they have been doing which got them ban in the first place. Riot is pretty ease with the punishment, and at least to me, seems pretty difficult to even get ban. If ive been playing for this long and havent seen so much as a warning, what exactly is the difference between me and you?
Killer30001893 votesRiot has tried reforming players before, and rarely works so they kinda just gave up on that.
THE HUNTERS1 votesRiot has tried reforming players before, and rarely works so they kinda just gave up on that.
well they need to try again people can change the people that they ran that program on was retarded and didnt know anything
Killer30001892 votesYou can say the same thing about the next set of test subjects, fact of the matter is they had like a 95% failure rate, they're done trying. Just don't be an asshole, play the game, and don't get banned period.
ModThe Djinn3 votesRallerenP is correct: Riot did try a "one last chance" experiment a few years ago, and it met with catastrophic failure rates. All evidence points to the fact that unbanning permanently banned accounts will simply lead to more toxic Behavior and that the same players will ultimately be banned again.
Now, I fully understand this is probably not true in every circumstance, are there some players might legitimately be able to reform. The past experiments have shown that this is extremely rare, however, and since there's no way to tell in advance of unbanning everyone weather in individual will reform or revert to toxic behavior, it doesn't seem worth the risk to the innocent population.
It's all rather immaterial though, because Riot has stated that they do not and will not ever unban permanently banned accounts unless the ban was erroneous.
THE HUNTERS1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AnhTxG9n,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-09-08T11:58:12.408+0000)
RallerenP is correct: Riot did try a "one last chance" experiment a few years ago, and it met with catastrophic failure rates. All evidence points to the fact that unbanning permanently banned accounts will simply lead to more toxic Behavior and that the same players will ultimately be banned again.
Now, I fully understand this is probably not true in every circumstance, are there some players might legitimately be able to reform. The past experiments have shown that this is extremely rare, however, and since there's no way to tell in advance of unbanning everyone weather in individual will reform or revert to toxic behavior, it doesn't seem worth the risk to the innocent population.
It's all rather immaterial though, because Riot has stated that they do not and will not ever unban permanently banned accounts unless the ban was erroneous.
but just think about it if someone is perma ban for a month or 3 months and they get their account back do you think they will behave the same no thats what riot is missing people learn from their mistakes is that simple. if you get banned again then the account is gone but perma baning someone after 14 days ban will not solve anything but just get rid of good old players from the game riot needs to really need to consider this matter
ModThe Djinn2 votes[{quoted}](name=THE HUNTERS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AnhTxG9n,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2017-09-08T19:50:13.845+0000)but just think about it if someone is perma ban for a month or 3 months and they get their account back do you think they will behave the same no thats what riot is missing people learn from their mistakes is that simple. if you get banned again then the account is gone but perma baning someone after 14 days ban will not solve anything but just get rid of good old players from the game riot needs to really need to consider this matter
You're missing the part where Riot DID an experiment to let people earn back their accounts, and found that most people did NOT learn from their mistakes. Like -- they TRIED it. The success rate was terrible.
Plus, "good old players" do not end up banned. Perhaps some SKILLED players do, but I would call a "good" player one who is a well-behaved community members. It's more important for the game for someone to make the community better at whatever skill level they play at than it is for them to to be at the top of the skill curve.
Plus, if they need another warning after the 14-day ban, why would ANOTHER warning help? They clearly aren't listening to warnings, even when they say "this is your final warning."
THE HUNTERS1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AnhTxG9n,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2017-09-08T20:03:11.179+0000)
You're missing the part where Riot DID an experiment to let people earn back their accounts, and found that most people did NOT learn from their mistakes. Like -- they TRIED it. The success rate was terrible.
Plus, "good old players" do not end up banned. Perhaps some SKILLED players do, but I would call a "good" player one who is a well-behaved community members. It's more important for the game for someone to make the community better at whatever skill level they play at than it is for them to to be at the top of the skill curve.
Plus, if they need another warning after the 14-day ban, why would ANOTHER warning help? They clearly aren't listening to warnings, even when they say "this is your final warning."
i understand riot ran the program long ago but they dont just have to let it go just because some dumb kids didnt learn from their mistakes im different aight and i know alot of good players who got banned because of 1 negative game. Riot need to try something because people are getting banned for talking, nowadays riot focus more on logs than focusing on scripters and trolls i cant believe this is what this game has become, if they somehow run that program again man its a celebration. because i know what i should do and shouldnt do i learned from my mistake i would even ask riot to get rid of my chat so i dont talk at all if thats considered toxic.
Lord Thresh2 votesWe all know "OCE" is full of toxic players
Dammsexy1 votesI agree give the fellow league players one last chance!! We can reform!
Lord Thresh1 votesi agree
WarWithReality3 votesOf course you agree..
SavageConcordia1 votesYou had 3 chances to reform (unless you were excessively toxic), why would this time be any different
THE HUNTERS1 votesI agree give the fellow league players one last chance!! We can reform!
agreed
Ilovemobas1 votesGiven that only 0,006% of league players get permabanned and they usually have several chances to reform prior to a perma ban (usually it starts out with chat restriction then a ban for a set ammount of time and permaban is a last resort to protect the league community) I think it is for the best to keep these people out of league.
1Hav3B1g1 votesI got permabanned from one game below is my chat history
Game 1 1Hav3B1g: Im not talking to some salty jungler so muted 1Hav3B1g: great gank 1Hav3B1g: im guessing ww will be campin gmid 1Hav3B1g: mid lost due to warwick camping 1Hav3B1g: what is this shet 1Hav3B1g: this is all bullshet 1Hav3B1g: they be playing like they all five have communication 1Hav3B1g: these minions omfg 1Hav3B1g: no cooldown on R??????? 1Hav3B1g: camp more 1Hav3B1g: babysit?!?!?? 1Hav3B1g: LOL 1Hav3B1g: THIS WW COMING MID ALL THE TIME 1Hav3B1g: sure ill keep crying stupid yasuo main 1Hav3B1g: you just lucky you have a jungler moron 1Hav3B1g: and you a yauso main cant even get the rune right 1Hav3B1g: your life is so funny that you laughing haha :) 1Hav3B1g: did i ask autism? 1Hav3B1g: when i play yasuo i never get junglers like you 1Hav3B1g: so you just lucky 1Hav3B1g: when i play yasuo 1Hav3B1g: i dont get ganked 1Hav3B1g: but i still lose due to enemy botlane coming 24/7 1Hav3B1g: we have a yi? 1Hav3B1g: its a yasuo main 1Hav3B1g: most disgusting being on earth 1Hav3B1g: what can i do this yasuo and warwick is annoying me 1Hav3B1g: camp more 1Hav3B1g: i swear 1Hav3B1g: its like you all 5 have communication 1Hav3B1g: I dont get how nasus is losing 1Hav3B1g: bot and mid is getting camped hard 1Hav3B1g: yet top is always solo and still loses 1Hav3B1g: 60 stacks in 15 mins 1Hav3B1g: Dota way better than this 1Hav3B1g: toxic and salty teammates and enemied 1Hav3B1g: yi constantly pinging me 1Hav3B1g: jhin constantly moaning 1Hav3B1g: nami spamming 1Hav3B1g: i did not 1Hav3B1g: you dont understand what yi is doing to me 1Hav3B1g: spamming pings at me 1Hav3B1g: .... 1Hav3B1g: listen here you disgusting creature 1Hav3B1g: at least i dont main yasuo 1Hav3B1g: yi just said fed more 1Hav3B1g: tilting me 1Hav3B1g: DO you not see what yi is doing??? 1Hav3B1g: that warwick is just good 1Hav3B1g: Im just tilted 1Hav3B1g: yi tilting me more 1Hav3B1g: beginning i wouldve kept quiet if yi said something like PLEASE shut up 1Hav3B1g: if only you guys can see what yi is writing 1Hav3B1g: tilting me so hard 1Hav3B1g: whats funny is your pathetc life yi
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