So I got banned for 2 weeks for being toxic in one game...

SEAN1212·Dec 28, 2017·3 votes·665 views

I was never banned before. I never cheated, inted, griefed, leaved a minimum amount of times only when my internet fails me. And I get straight up banned for two weeks when I have my winter holiday... So the only time in 4 months when I have a lot of spare time to play lol they ban me for being toxic. I mean I didn't say I don't deserve a punishment, in fact I do, but restricting chat is an okay punishment I wouldn't mind that and it would teach my a lesson. There are people that straight up cheat, or grief and they don't get punished for literally ruining the game for 4 people and I get maximum punishment for having a bad day and typing some text. You can hate me, but we all rage at times.

19 Comments

OnlyYouCanHearMeDec 28, 20173 votes

If you would like for us to let you know why your punishment was escalated, feel free to post your chat logs.

SEAN1212Dec 29, 20171 votes

Basically I got ganked 6 times in 10 minutes and I was so mad and frustrated probably because that's why I lost the lane. So I told the jungler and the top laner in their team that they are homosexual. I know it sounds bad but I have been frustrated the whole day and needed a little to explode. I didn't say I should not be punished at all, I should receive a punishment based on my BM.

Imperial PandaaDec 29, 20171 votes

Did you say homosexual or did you use a slur?

SEAN1212Dec 29, 20171 votes

I basically told the top laner and jungler that they are a homosexual couple (in slang).

TheEvilQueen135Dec 29, 20171 votes

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I basically told the top laner and jungler that they are a homosexual couple (in slang).

it was possibly interpreted as hate speech, which is an instant ban. chat logs??

OnlyYouCanHearMeDec 29, 20171 votes

Did you call them a couple of f@@s? If it was something like that, then it's definitely hate speech, as that is a racial slur, and Riot has zero-tolerance for it. It would automatically escalate you to a 14 day suspension for a first offense.

SEAN1212Dec 29, 20171 votes

If a player gets offended easily he probably has chat filter on so he could not have seen the slur. I don't get the point of chat filter nor the chat in general. If I get back to playing lol I'm just auto muting every game so I don't get triggered and fire back.

OnlyYouCanHearMeDec 29, 20171 votes

Muting all is a very good idea. You can also mute the pings if a player begins to ping spam you for any reason. Just keep in mind, if you have them muted, it doesn't mean that they have you muted, and if you type something, they can still read it.

So, there's nothing wrong with you telling your team in champ select that you prefer to /mute all during matches so you can concentrate, and that they can communicate with you with pings. There's no need to tell them that you are doing it because of a ban, or to avoid dealing with flaming. Let them think it's so you can play your best. If they think it's so you can help them win, they will be much more inclined to respect you as a good teammate. Good luck, and happy hunting on the Rift.

Naked Zoe Dec 29, 20172 votes

Same I played 1 game with my premade on 24 Dec and I told him in-game to kys as a joke. After that game i get 2 weeks suspension without ever having any other suspensions/chat restrictions etc. on this account. I talked to the support and they didn't know how to respond to me so they just said the ban won't be lifted under any circumstances.

edit: Also it was auto-ban as stated by the support

SEAN1212Dec 29, 20171 votes

Yeah it sucks to hear that, the enemy team kinda fired a couple of shots back so It is kinda hypocritical if they reported me.To be honest getting banned is both good and bad, maybe I stop playing for good and find a more productive hobby.

exxposeDec 28, 20171 votes

Actually, you can receive a 10-game chat restriction punishment for saying "you're bad" one time in a game or saying "report xyz for feeding/inting/trolling" one time in a game.

You received a 10-game chat restriction.

But because you were higher up on the punishment tier (since you didn't decay your previous punishment tiers), you received the 14 day ban.

If you had decayed your 25 game chat restriction punishment tier, you would have only received a 25 game chat restriction instead of the 14 day ban.

The next punishment tier is a permaban... so if you don't want to lose your account forever make sure you decay your punishment tier before doing anything that might get you a 10-game chat restriction.

The system is retarded, but that's how it works. Literally do not say "you're bad at this game" one time in any of your games for the next 3 months. It takes on average 3 months to decay 1 punishment tier (with regular game play on good behavior).

OnlyYouCanHearMeDec 28, 20173 votes

It doesn't go by a time limit for punishment tier decay. It's based upon number of positive games played. In the case of a player who has a 14 day suspension, that is usually more like 6-9 months of fairly regular play.

exxposeDec 28, 20171 votes

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It doesn't go by a time limit for punishment tier decay. It's based upon number of positive games played. In the case of a player who has a 14 day suspension, that is usually more like 6-9 months of fairly regular play.

It takes on average about 3 months of regular game play to go down a tier. You don't go down a tier by logging out of your account for 3 months. But the average player with average games played (on good behavior) will move down a tier at ~3 months. Faster if you play more, slower if you play less.

OnlyYouCanHearMeDec 29, 20171 votes

While it does decay faster if a player plays more games, the decay isn't the same for all punishment tiers. It takes considerably longer to decay down from a 14 day suspension to the 25 game chat restriction tier than it does to decay from the 10 game chat restriction tier back to neutral. It may be around 3 months for the 10 game chat restriction, possibly even for the 25 game chat restriction to drop to the 10 game tier if the player plays a lot. But a 14 day suspension tier is not going to decay down to the 25 game chat restriction tier in 3 months.

exxposeDec 29, 20172 votes

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While it does decay faster if a player plays more games, the decay isn't the same for all punishment tiers. It takes considerably longer to decay down from a 14 day suspension to the 25 game chat restriction tier than it does to decay from the 10 game chat restriction tier back to neutral. It may be around 3 months for the 10 game chat restriction, possibly even for the 25 game chat restriction to drop to the 10 game tier if the player plays a lot. But a 14 day suspension tier is not going to decay down to the 25 game chat restriction tier in 3 months.

Do you have a source for your claim about different decay rates for different tiers? Because everything I've read on the forums states that it takes approximately 3 months of honorable playing to decay down 1 tier.

OnlyYouCanHearMeDec 29, 20171 votes

Sure do! I'm actually glad that you asked me for the source, since this is one of those situations that changed, but most people tend to follow the old rule of thumb. (Kind of like how 9x reports used to carry more weight, so you still have players asking for reports, when it doesn't work like that anymore.) I'd learned of this system changing after seeing some things that Deep Terror Nami posted, and a couple of things that Lyte had said a few years back, but unfortunately, I don't have access to most of the things Lyte posted off-Boards.

One of the first posts that comes to mind is this one from Deep Terror Nami from a little over a year ago.

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=le6rYEIB,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-10-16T13:34:24.687+0000)

A lot of newer information suggests that the 3-month thing changed to a system similar (but not connected to) Hextech eligibility, where you only drop by playing games and showing reform.

And when asked if he had a source on it, this was the reply:

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=le6rYEIB,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-16T13:45:30.894+0000)

It's not a specific source, it's more like a collection of vague tidbits that add up, including internal chat with some of the player support guys we have in the volunteer Discord (though there was a support ticket that more clearly stated this was the case, and I never saved it). Like you said;

Even if you got Tantram to answer you directly I don't think you're getting more than that. It's not worth pursuing imo, just encourage players to focus on reforming.

(The volunteer Discord being an avenue that the arbiters and other Boards helpers have for direct contact with Riot for information and clarification.)

But the simplest, and most direct source that I can give you is this one from Riot Tantram. It's also one of the more recent ones, at roughly 8 months old.

The question asked by Deep Terror Nami was:

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=t4BNHARj,comment-id=00030000000000000002000400000001,timestamp=2017-05-09T23:20:45.487+0000)

Hope you're still around. I'd like to know if the average time to decay one punishment tier is different per tier, as in, does it take longer to go from just being 14 day banned down to the 25 chat than it does to go from a 10 game chat restriction down to a clean status?

The answer from Riot Tantram was:

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=t4BNHARj,comment-id=000300000000000000020004000000010000,timestamp=2017-05-09T23:26:58.812+0000)

More severe behavior and behavior histories take longer to get to a clean slate than a less egregious/persistent behavior.

If you look at that thread, there's a couple of comments there, and different versions of people asking the same question.

If I may add my own opinion, and this part is purely conjecture, players who are at the 14 day suspension tier as a result of moving up the punishment ladder are much more likely to be periodically reported, because they have a well-established pattern of toxic behavior. And that will also cause the decay time to increase. I base my opinion upon a Riot Support response to a ticket submitted by a player, referenced in this thread.

{quoted} Hey Summoner,

For an account's negativity to decay, it takes both a function of time and games played where no toxicity is exhibited to reduce, and effectively reset, the hidden "toxicity level" of an account.

That said, as each account is unique, even with a hypothetical query of perfect behavior I would not be able to calculate how long that reset would take. Nor do other positive games matter if an account continually will have negative games every so often as this account has.

Furthermore, a prior history of positive behavior will also have no standings on this case. Just as a lifetime of not doing crime wouldn't suddenly make committing a crime okay.

Templar Iytsuna Player Behavior and Game Support "Let's admire me"

ZezilianDec 28, 20171 votes

You deserve if you was warned ingame of getting banned and you still ignored it. That would be sweat sweat ban when you laugh in your ignorance but after 5 min your realize you got banned.

SEAN1212Dec 29, 20172 votes

I was never banned before, nor did I get a warning. I'm usually cool headed. I like how you deduced what happened based on nothing.

Broken BandleDec 29, 20171 votes

but restricting **chat is an okay punishment I wouldn't mind that **

This right here is why the ban issued is severe. You would be okay with the punishment and then go on to make other games feel terrible to play with you because the punishment didn't hurt. You didn't mind it. Now, you will remember or think twice about hitting that enter key and what you put into the game. It sounds to me like it was an appropriate punishment just based on your response.