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I feel like player behavior has been neglected

Dr Rick Report·1/14/2020, 3:48:51 PM·1 votes·2,432 views

I'm gonna try and keep myself as civil as possible and I'd like to ask commenters and the (very common) downvote bombers to do the same

I just got chat restricted (woohoo) for toxicity. It was a good thing, I totally deserved it. However it made me realize how easy it is for you to get away with doing action based damage to the game. You can do soft inting, you can AFK while moving around once a minute (or with rangers, you can just have it auto the gromp and it'll periodically reset), you can do a lot AS LONG AS YOU HAVE CHAT OFF

The last publicly announced update (on the punishment side so excluding honor 2) was 4 years ago when the new IFS system launched. Since then we have replays (so we could have the community review these cases and judge inting), Riot probably got a lot better in using machine learning so they could probably train a model to figure these out as well..

I just want to try and get someone at Riot to realize that the approach they are taking (to honor positivity rather than discourage negativity) is a bad direction and I genuinely don't feel good playing ranked cause every time I get an inter or a mini faker that thinks he's the best and goes AFK after dying once, I know I'm completely powerless. I won't be able to do anything cause the report system won't get it for sure, I totally feel like player support isn't doing anything with those tickets either so the only thing you can do is break the summoner's code yourself and just go AFK too (no, I don't believe in 4v5 comebacks.. it happened to me twice since Riot made it impossible back in season 6)

I'd really love to see this post reach someone at Riot and try and get them to push towards a feature CS:GO has been using for a while to clean up cheaters (with great success rates I may add.. most blatant cheaters are gone after 1-2 games while less blatant ones are gone within 1-2 days) or at least improve on their non-existent reporting system.

I'm going to be disabling chat from now on (why is that a thing when the game is clean of toxic ppl?) with the hopes of seeing this system come to life in early 2030 ;)

20 Comments

GatekeeperTDS1/14/2020, 3:53:37 PM7 votes

I'd really love to see this post reach someone at Riot and try and get them to push towards a feature CS:GO has been using for a while to clean up cheaters (with great success rates I may add.. most blatant cheaters are gone after 1-2 games while less blatant ones are gone within 1-2 days) or at least improve on their non-existent reporting system.

Why are you trying to prove a (bad) point by comparing apples and oranges? Cheating is a totally separate offense from everything else that you're describing.

Let me clue you in to a couple things.

1.) "Soft" inting doesn't exist. You are either intentionally feeding or not. The issue boils down to determining the person's intent. Players are very, very bad at determining the intent of other players. They call EVERYTHING inting, trolling, & griefing whether accurate or not.

2.) Being AFK is handled by a separate system.

Neither of these are cheating.

Additionally, you really don't know how massively huge the player base of League is compared to CS:GO, do you? There are reasons why player-reviewed cases of gameplay offenses don't work for League. They tried it before. Please do some research.

Zyniya1/14/2020, 3:59:11 PM1 votes

This is my 2nd chat restricted THIS YEAR 6th or 7th time in the last 8 months. Yet to get suspended. Saying it's "neglected" is likely right. I believe the more money you've spent the more chances you get tho it's the only reason I can think of that I haven't got a 14-day ban yet.

I called my Morg a whore today after she tilted me telling me Varus didn't have an escape that why the Nami/MF lane was killing me. Told me I should have picked Ashe or Vayne ADC that have "Escapes". Still tilted at that stupid player. "Escapes"

Butterwood1/14/2020, 4:32:37 PM1 votes

Been playing for 8 years, never been chat restricted. You can have all of the conspiracy theories you want about punishments and throw out "what about"s, saying what other people do is much worse than whatever you've done, but at the end of the day you need to take responsibility for your own actions. Pointing fingers and saying "sure I'm bad BUT" gets you absolutely nowhere.

Yin Yang Taoist1/14/2020, 9:01:19 PM1 votes

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I'm gonna try and keep myself as civil as possible and I'd like to ask commenters and the (very common) downvote bombers to do the same

I just got chat restricted (woohoo) for toxicity. It was a good thing, I totally deserved it. However it made me realize how easy it is for you to get away with doing action based damage to the game. You can do soft inting, you can AFK while moving around once a minute (or with rangers, you can just have it auto the gromp and it'll periodically reset), you can do a lot AS LONG AS YOU HAVE CHAT OFF

The last publicly announced update (on the punishment side so excluding honor 2) was 4 years ago when the new IFS system launched. Since then we have replays (so we could have the community review these cases and judge inting), Riot probably got a lot better in using machine learning so they could probably train a model to figure these out as well..

I just want to try and get someone at Riot to realize that the approach they are taking (to honor positivity rather than discourage negativity) is a bad direction and I genuinely don't feel good playing ranked cause every time I get an inter or a mini faker that thinks he's the best and goes AFK after dying once, I know I'm completely powerless. I won't be able to do anything cause the report system won't get it for sure, I totally feel like player support isn't doing anything with those tickets either so the only thing you can do is break the summoner's code yourself and just go AFK too (no, I don't believe in 4v5 comebacks.. it happened to me twice since Riot made it impossible back in season 6)

I'd really love to see this post reach someone at Riot and try and get them to push towards a feature CS:GO has been using for a while to clean up cheaters (with great success rates I may add.. most blatant cheaters are gone after 1-2 games while less blatant ones are gone within 1-2 days) or at least improve on their non-existent reporting system.

I'm going to be disabling chat from now on (why is that a thing when the game is clean of toxic ppl?) with the hopes of seeing this system come to life in early 2030 ;)

I read all of that and I never got the point of it all. Not being sarcastic at all, I'm genuinely confused. What are you trying to say, OP?

You were talking about AFK's and then you jumped to cs:go cheaters? Hmm.. cheating is taken very seriously in League! I don't see any cheaters at all. In comparison to cs:go? Its littered with cheaters. Or used to be when I was playing it a few months back, atleast!

As for AFK's, they get punished if they do it often enough. I agree that it can be annoying though!