Overwatch for LoL like CS GO (LETS END THE TROLLS)

I Chewie I·Mar 23, 2016·2 votes·1,153 views

Hi,

I am a gold 5 players so you can say I'm still a noob in some eyes but beast on others. Let me ask you a question how many times are u tired of LEGIT TROLLING. Not the dude sucks and cant play his champion but walking into mid lane and just giving free kills or walking right next to you for the whole game and not playing. Now i propose league starts overwatch like in Counter Strike Global Offensive. If your not familiar with Overwatch, its basically a VOD of when someone gets reported. I think it works like 5 min before and after they get reported or something like that. After watching the VOD you as a community member can decide if they are doing something wrong. At the end of the video you are able to conclude him as guilty or not guilty for various reports such as griefing, cheating. But since you "cant" cheat in league options such as unsportsmanlike conduct, hate speech, leaving the game/afk , and the other usually reports should be available. Having chat in the VOD will be helpful to make correct predictions.

Now I know what your thinking that a lot of power int he community, what if some bronze player overwatches a diamonds and get him banned that would suck right? Ive got a solution for that, I think that only diamond and higher should be available for overwatch. That way we have some of the higher skilled players who make a decision. I bet streamers would love the idea cause it gives them a short break and maybe even a funny time watching the person. Now just because the diamond player thought he was guilty doesn't mean it should be an auto ban, riot you would still need to look at these report seriously but you would have reports that are more accurate. Now this is just me in my thoughts on how to improve the game. Lets get this read by RIOT and LETS INCREASE OUR ELO TODAY (without trolls).

Comment on it, if you have an questions/ concerns and ill try to answer.

12 Comments

LITTLE TlMOMar 23, 20163 votes

part of the reason they took down the tribunal is that many will vote to punish no matter what. people love to see others get banned and the less they deserve it, the more funny it is.

I Chewie IMar 23, 20161 votes

thats why i said diamond and challenger players, i would feel they would be more responsible but just cause they say its guilty doesnt mean its a ban, its just a confirmation for riot to look over and choose

Awkward CouchMar 23, 20162 votes

There are several problems with this.

LOL matches are much longer than CSGO matches, that's a lot of data that Riot would have to store. Not only that, that's a lot of footage to watch.
You would have to watch almost the entire match to determine if someone is trolling. It would be really easy to edit to make it look like someone was trolling, when in reality, they weren't.
There is no clear definition of "trolling" and that means that's up for interpretation for every judge.
The number of players in Diamond are less than 2%, that's not a lot of people to watch hundreds of hours of footage to watch.
Riot has tried this with the old Tribunal, and there was a massive backlog for that. I foresee the same problem with this sort of system.

I Chewie IMar 23, 20161 votes

So ill comment on each one

IF they add the report button during the game, and someone was to report, recording 5 min before and after would be suffice. The instanct someone reports it, you would be able to see something, if it doesn't look like anything then say not guilty, would save some time for riot, so they can skip that report. 2 & 3) Trolling would not be an option but griefing would. People who just purposefully refuse to group, "troll" would go under this category. If the "troll" is reported guilty, it is riots job to decide the outcome.
Diamond + is enough i think, maybe platinum can be added.
i didnt know that

I do see your point with the footage. That would take up a lot of space, but there are a lot of smart people in there company im sure someone could figure out something decent like this.

Awkward CouchMar 24, 20161 votes

Sorry I took so long to respond, I'll try to lay out my responses as best as I can.

While the in game report button would be a decent solution, you run into 2 problems. 1, people accidentally hitting the button if it's easily accessible with your left hand. For example, when I first started playing and I was level 15 or so, I was able to go solo top, when I got ganked, I would press every button just to try and get away. I could see people in lower ranks doing this frequently. The second problem I foresee is how does the judge know what player is trolling? If you just hit the report button (in game) the judge would have to look at each player and what they are doing. Myself, I report someone for trolling even if it's on the other team (I may be in the minority here) so I want to make sure that the player is punished, whether on my team or the enemy. I suppose one way you could fix that would be to fix that problem is at the end of the game, write in who the troll is.

On a side note, I'm not sure if hitting the button and recording 5 minutes (I think it would be more like 2 minutes just for storage space purposes) after the event happened is possible under the current Riot structure. It could be possible, I just don't know. It might be difficult since there isn't a replay system already (though I desperately want one).

Points 2 and 3 are valid.

I still think even with plat involved you're going to run into issues with lack of judges. Even plat makes up 6% of ranked players, so in total you're looking at a grand total of 8% of players (roughly) to judge the 90% left in the community, that's a really big descripency. I would say a better way would be give players who's accounts are in good standing be judges. This would be more of the community.

A potential problem would be, what would you give to incentivize players to be judges? Under the old Tribunal system, you got a small amount of IP for judging, and even then the participation was very lacking. With most big events, there will be huge support at the launch, but as time goes on, the participation dwindles significantly, whereas the amount of reporting would stay roughly the same. So Riot would have to come up with some sort of incentive to keep players in participating. For me, I own all the champions in the game, so IP doesn't really help me at all (along with the champion shards but that's a rant for another time). I'm sure a majority of high elo players (excluding smurfs) would have most if not all of the champions, IP is no incentive for them. I suppose with the new Hextec crafting system they could give out some chests or keys maybe? Just something to think about.

My biggest issue still is the video storage. For this I'll be referring to this source. If we say that one report for trolling produces roughly 5 minutes of footage (I'm just taking a stab in the dark with this so take this point with a grain of salt) you're looking at a gig of raw footage at 480p. There are roughly 27 million games played each day source, so out of the 27 million games let's say there are 500,000 reports for trolling (again taking a stab in the dark, but I think this number is fairly realistic). You're looking at 500 TB of storage. Now granted there are really smart people out there who could shrink that down through algorithms, but even then you're still looking at TB of storage for a system that, quite frankly, would be hard to get people to go through and watch the footage.

AstôlfoMar 23, 20161 votes

no.

I Chewie IMar 23, 20161 votes

why not

I Chewie IMar 23, 20161 votes

gets rid of the actual trolls, people can make a good judgement sent it to league, and then they can actually ban people instead of going through thousands of stupid reports.

AstôlfoMar 23, 20161 votes

Takes too much time, manpower/effort, needs people's judgment, and is pointless, because the current system works fine, and is automatic.

I Chewie IMar 23, 20161 votes

I think it works "okay" not fine. Cause people forget to ban after the game since they are so outraged and just wanna play another. It would take manpower and time but the man power and time spent on our reports would be minimized and instead spent on the ones that get through overwatch.

AstôlfoMar 23, 20161 votes

Not worth it.