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Riot REALLY has to fix their punishment system

Savagecabbage54··2 votes·424 views

So this game our jungler called top first but some other person said "give top or ill int" the jungler then swiched to jungle. I decided that I also wanted to play top and since apparently its ok, I did the same thing as him, now I have nothing wrong with this, but he did. It was a duo top and this guy kept on saying I was trolling and he started inting. He literally dived a VOLIBEAR 5 times, and not surprisingly, died 5 times, he then said he was "lagging". I call him out on his inting and he starts to say how hes only trolling because I'm trolling, he also called me a 43 year old %%%%, told me to die and a called me a little kid, I reported him, and I can assume he reported me. Now heres where Riots punishment system gets pretty dumb. I got chat restricted, but the other person, did not. There were no other chat logs with this and this is the ONLY game where I could be considered remotely toxic. Yet I get chat restricted instantly and the trolling person, who was also flaming me, quite alot more than I was flaming him, didn't get punished. I never got the notification that he got punished. Sure I get that me saying report Illaoi and, cry more, and no company would hire you (in response to him saying I work as a game developer for RIOT), but the Illaoi not getting banned is unacceptable. He flamed me far more, and he was trolling. I honestly don't know what system Riot uses to punish people, but they really have to fix it. I'm not here saying what I did was right, I'm here saying that that toxic, inting person is still out there ruining other peoples games while I'm here chat restricted.

Game 1 SavageCabbage55: yup SavageCabbage55: "pikey" SavageCabbage55: damn im offended SavageCabbage55: scary SavageCabbage55: illaoi inting? SavageCabbage55: please report SavageCabbage55: sure SavageCabbage55: idk why this illaoi keeps trying to dive a voli SavageCabbage55: how am i trolling SavageCabbage55: your the one who said they were gonna int SavageCabbage55: and you were the second SavageCabbage55: you said give me top or ill int SavageCabbage55: see your trolling SavageCabbage55: sitting there watching me die SavageCabbage55: watch irl? SavageCabbage55: that doesnt even make sense SavageCabbage55: well thats nice SavageCabbage55: more to report you with SavageCabbage55: thnx SavageCabbage55: trollinmg SavageCabbage55: wasnt SavageCabbage55: implaying you are now SavageCabbage55: so you are trolling SavageCabbage55: is what your saying SavageCabbage55: k go on SavageCabbage55: keep on talking SavageCabbage55: the more you say the more evidence riot has :) SavageCabbage55: how am i trolling anyways SavageCabbage55: so no evidence im trolling SavageCabbage55: your just saying im trolling SavageCabbage55: and using that as an excuse to troll yourself SavageCabbage55: how SavageCabbage55: how am i trolling please tell me SavageCabbage55: still no evidence im trolling SavageCabbage55: your pretty funny cry mroe kid SavageCabbage55: keep crying SavageCabbage55: hes trolling SavageCabbage55: just report him SavageCabbage55: for inting SavageCabbage55: your saying im trolling SavageCabbage55: please tell me how im trolling SavageCabbage55: lane stealing SavageCabbage55: is not a thing SavageCabbage55: you stole the junglers lane lmao SavageCabbage55: plus SavageCabbage55: lane stealing isnt a thing SavageCabbage55: riot has nothing wrong with what you call lane stealing SavageCabbage55: illaoi SavageCabbage55: you delusional SavageCabbage55: *your SavageCabbage55: im doing this simply because i can SavageCabbage55: theres no repercussions SavageCabbage55: i can go top SavageCabbage55: if i want SavageCabbage55: not to anger you SavageCabbage55: just because i want to top SavageCabbage55: and you inting is making you a team player? SavageCabbage55: 0/5 SavageCabbage55: youve dived the voli SavageCabbage55: 5 times SavageCabbage55: and died SavageCabbage55: and your saying lag SavageCabbage55: ok look SavageCabbage55: if you did that once SavageCabbage55: id be like ok SavageCabbage55: but you did it 5 times SavageCabbage55: so you know im right SavageCabbage55: and your gonna mute me SavageCabbage55: didnt you just say im 43 SavageCabbage55: hmmm SavageCabbage55: ^ SavageCabbage55: going top is trolling SavageCabbage55: hmmm SavageCabbage55: no hes not lagging SavageCabbage55: thats his excuse SavageCabbage55: if he dived him once SavageCabbage55: that might have been an accident SavageCabbage55: but he did it 5 times SavageCabbage55: you dont just do something 5 times and call it accidents SavageCabbage55: oh wow SavageCabbage55: how scary SavageCabbage55: i totally beleive you SavageCabbage55: ahaahahaa SavageCabbage55: no company would hire you SavageCabbage55: your whiny SavageCabbage55: and you get angry very easily SavageCabbage55: thanks vayne? SavageCabbage55: you are why the commjunity is bad SavageCabbage55: for inting SavageCabbage55: hes inting SavageCabbage55: its clear as day SavageCabbage55: actually SavageCabbage55: he was top first SavageCabbage55: and you said top or ill int SavageCabbage55: then he switched to jungle SavageCabbage55: this team is pretty heavy :/ SavageCabbage55: this game probably would have been easier if illaoi just afked at the start SavageCabbage55: then she wouldnt have fed 10 kills SavageCabbage55: NOOADIUAWHDIUAHDW SavageCabbage55: AIDUWHUIAWHDIAUWHD SavageCabbage55: gg

24 Comments

Jo0o5 votes

If you're truly 43 years old, you should have learned a long time ago that engaging in fruitless pissing contests with idiots on the other end of a computer screen isn't going to help anybody, ESPECIALLY when you do so in the middle of a competitive video game.

If you're getting trolled, mute/report/move on. Fighting fire with fire just gets everybody burned.

Savagecabbage542 votes

I don't think you read the whole thing, I never once said I was 43 years old, he called me a 43 year old %%%%, I was using that as an example of the things he said to me, also if you read my whole post you would know that i'm asking why he didn't get punished

Jo0o4 votes

You've got a lot of run-on sentences, so I got mixed up.

The inting Illaoi hasn't played any games since the one you're complaining about, so she may have gotten a 14-day ban or a perma for inting. It can happen quickly.

Savagecabbage541 votes

He later added me, and was playing a game, I also never got a notification saying he got punished, so all evidence points to him not being punished at all.

Jo0o1 votes

/shrug

I don't know what sort of leniency int-feeders get, since I've never done it. It's a level 16 account, so it hasn't existed long. He'll get what's coming to him eventually.

Savagecabbage541 votes

Wait though, I'm a level 14 account and I haven't done anything toxic either, I assume int feeders would get banned faster than a mildly toxic person, as the game says I am.

Jo0o1 votes

See, chat toxicity is more cut-and-dry than int feeding. You're clearly in violation of the chat rules, so you got a chat restriction. Harder for an automated system to determine that a level 14 account is intentionally feeding versus, say, being shit at the game.

He may have gotten a chat restriction for flaming you, there's no real way to tell. You usually don't get messages confirming the result of your reports.

Savagecabbage541 votes

Which proves my point, riots system is punishing a mildly toxic player over one who is very clearly inting, and has a lot of motive to do so, they even announced it in chat.

Jo0o1 votes

I'm giving you a very clear explanation of what happened, and you're very deliberately twisting what I'm saying.

Focus on your own behavior. Trolls are gonna cross your path once in a while, and if you go flame-on every time you see one, your account is gonna be toast before you know it. Feel free to report them, and they'll get what they deserve.

Savagecabbage541 votes

I'm not trying to twist anybody words I'm just saying, in this situation a player that has never been toxic before got punished, and a player who was clearly inting, did not get punished, in my opinion this is a failure of Riots system and they should fix it.

TheProfezzor1 votes

I’ll be the guy who is on your side since I’m more realistic. You were hardly toxic. I’ve seen significantly worse, and don’t worse too. Inting is a big deal which can easily cost a game which is a waste of people’s time and BM much like verbal toxicity. Other player should be banned if he INTed AND was toxic whereas you were just toxic.

Zombie Gerbil2 votes

Being more part of the problem isn't going to fix the actual issue. You won't accomplish anything by retaliating against the toxic player. I don't know what you think was going to happen by being negative back. But since you were, you got punished for it. Riot system is perfectly fine. You're either part of the problem or part of the game.

Savagecabbage541 votes

Once again, read my whole post, I'm asking why the illaoi did not get punished.

Zombie Gerbil1 votes

No thanks, I don't need to. What you need to understand is that you are either part of the game or part of the problem. You being upset over something you can easily ignore is just childish. Get over it and mute the player. If not, and you continue to listen to him, you're just part of problem for talking back. The problem in this situation is that you're worried about other players other than yourself. More you focus on other players the more problems you're going to have. Illaoi's problem and attitude is not your responsibility. None of the players should EVER be your concern. The only thing you should ever think about when it comes to players being toxic is whether you mute them or not. Nothing more nothing less. Now focus on yourself and yourself alone. Riot doesn't need to fix their system, you need to fix yourself.

Savagecabbage541 votes

How is an inting player something I can "easily ignore"

Zombie Gerbil1 votes

Mute them and don't provoke them. Simple. Either way, you talking to them solves nothing. You don't help the team by typing, you don't stop the toxic player by typing, you don't kill minions by typing, you don't get objectives by typing. Wanna know why? Because League of Legends isn't a chatroom. It's a video game you're supposed to play, not type. You need to be more concern about your behavior, not other players.

Savagecabbage541 votes

Your whole point is irrelevant, if you read my post you would see that I said I know what I did wasn't right, the point of me posting this was to point out that I got punished, and a very clearly inting player did not, prompting me to say that riot should fix their system.

Zombie Gerbil1 votes

Then you have a problem with comprehending something as simple as:

"Stop focusing on other players and focus on yourself."

But that how most of you type of players are. They are so worried about other players behavior and not worried about the outcome of their own account. You need to get out of this thread and start worrying how you're going to fix your mindset that other players outcome has nothing to do with you, your account, or anything in general. If you can't focus on yourself and play the game for what it is, then this game isn't for you.

And no, Riot doesn't need to fix anything. Only thing needs fixing is yourself and how you are so focus on other players behavior. Which needs to stop. You and you alone are responsible for your own action.

Savagecabbage541 votes

So now your attempting to insult me, please read. I said I WAS WRONG, I never said I shouldn't have been punished. The point of the post is saying that Riots system did not function correctly in this case and did not punish the toxic and inting person. You saying that I keep focusing on other players and implying that I think I should not have been banned is extremely stupid, and as I said READ MY POST.

Zombie Gerbil1 votes

Goodness, you are ... nevermind. And no, no thank you. Reading it was enough. You just need to understand this simple little thing. Here, I'll make it as simple as I can.

That player Illaoi you're talking about does not matter. One game does not matter. No one cares about her. No one cares about what she did or what she said. What happens to that player does not matter. What happens to her is no concern of yours. She'll eventually get what she deserves if she deserves it. That's that.

Simple and easy.

Savagecabbage541 votes

Actually yes, it is a concern of mine, as she intentionally fed in my game, resulting in an unfavorable experience for me. So, naturally like 99% of other people I would like to see her punished for what she does, as for you saying She'll get what she deserves, if she deserves it, your implying that INTENTIONALLY FEEDING is fine and she doesn't deserve to be punished for inting, and if she doesn't get banned she will continue to int and ruin more games.

Zombie Gerbil1 votes

It's not and never will be a concern of yours. Regardless if you want it to be. And your 99% doesn't exist. No one knows her, no one knows you, no one cares about that player, and neither should you. But I am done explaining how simple it is for you to move on and start focusing yourself. Honestly, I believe you're playing the wrong game.

Riot only care what you do. You are responsible for your own action. Disregard that, you're in for a very very bad time. Good luck. You're going to need it.

Lyndris2 votes

You don't have to read your entire post. The point Zombie Gerbil is making is your actions got you punished and that is all that matters. You have to have a history or break zero tolerance rules to get punished. IF Illoai has a history they will get a punishment as well, once the criteria is met. And, no, intentional feeding is not so cut and dry as chat, the one game they gave you was an example, not the only one that factored in. I have had games were I end up 0/16/10 I have never intentionally fed, however, I have fed my ass off.

nerak231 votes

It almost seems like you were trying to bait him. Either way I wouldn't have liked reading that in game.

Whatever your reasons, what you typed didn't help your team.

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