Perma Ban

WhisperOfLove··1 votes·1,805 views

after playing this game for 3 years and spend lots of money for it i got perma ban and the only reason is that i was negative enough to those who arent able to play in ranked and made us lose riot care alot about positive experience and has punishment for negative ones, so what have i done with all those negative experience i had in these years? those players who trolls whole game, and at the end they report me cuz i said something to them and riot cant see the whole headache i got in whole game ! riot just see my message its so sad, wish an admin or someone in riot at least watch my 2-3 games then judge me your judgment was not fair to me, there are alots of pc game that i can play but i prefered to play lol cuz i loved it i tried to collect all those rare skins and hexteche ones and now riot perma banned me without any warning atleast i could ask for perma mute me, so i could handle those troll players like this i dont know if someone in riot hear me, but its all not fair to me not at all wish you could unban me, and mute me instead.

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Umbral Regent4 votes

First off, let's make a distinction:

...is that i was negative enough to those who arent able to play in ranked and made us lose...

those players who trolls whole game...

You say these things as if people who get their asses beat and people who troll are one in the same. They aren't.

However, ironic as it is, you have to deal with them in very similar fashion. In other words: Don't flame them.

If they're getting beaten, flaming them won't make them magically pull a super-hard turnaround and 1v5 the enemy team and carry you. It'll just make them play worse, because the match has gone from 5v5 to - for them - 1v6. Don't be the asshole who flames your teammates when they're doing poorly.

If they're trolling...Flaming them won't magically make them realize "wow, I'm being such an asshole, maybe I should stop and actually play the game, just to be considerate to my fellow teammates. Gosh, I really gotta thank this random person I was trolling for giving me that eye-opening 'ur trash, uninstall' that helped me turn my life around."

They're fucking trolls. They want you to be pissed off and flame them. You flaming them is you feeding the trolls.

Do not feed the trolls.

and riot cant see the whole headache i got in whole game ! riot just see my message

Whether or not you got a headache from a given match doesn't matter. You still flamed. The rules specifically state that you're not allowed to flame.

its so sad, wish an admin or someone in riot at least watch my 2-3 games then judge me

If you flamed, human review would come back with exactly the same results. If you really want a peer review, feel free to post your chat logs for the community to provide their input.

your judgment was not fair to me, there are alots of pc game that i can play but i prefered to play lol cuz i loved it

If you loved the game, you wouldn't have flamed...Just sayin'.

...and now riot perma banned me without any warning

Riot doesn't up and permaban someone without them already having a history of prior punishment - with some rare exceptions, like botting, other cheats, etc. - so you obviously had some form of punishment beforehand. 14-day ban? 25-game Chat Restriction? 10-game Chat Restriction?

You've had warnings. Your ignoring them doesn't make them not exist.

i dont know if someone in riot hear me, but its all not fair to me

Of course it's not fair to you - you expected to be able to break the rules without consequence. Now there's consequences, and you don't like them.

Y'might wanna get used to unfairness, because life is chock-full of it.

atleast i could ask for perma mute me...

wish you could unban me, and mute me instead.

Perma-mutes don't work. Riot used to issue effectively infinite-scaling chat restrictions, and most people under longer chat restrictions just started trolling.

They then decided on the punishment ladder we have now - 10-game chat restriction > 25-game chat restriction > 14-day ban > permaban.

Unless you're the kind of person who uses hate speech, you had three warnings. You ignored all of them, and Riot no longer sees potential in you to reform.

If you can't be bothered to play by the rules, Riot can't be bothered to have you playing at all.

Imperial Pandaa2 votes

Because these is no way to completely rid of all negative experiences.

Trolls do eventually get punished in most cases. They try to avoid punishing simply had players.

You weren't permabanned out of no where. You had at least a prior 14 day ban if not chat restrictions too.

You are responsible for your actions, not Riot.

It is fair.

WhisperOfLove1 votes

so that means, players do trolls on purpose and you just think to yourself why there is no punishment for them? what if i try to not speak at all? anymore is there any chance to play again? or no?

Umbral Regent2 votes

...why there is no punishment for them?

There is punishment for trolls. It's a 14-day ban from the gate.

The issue is, the playerbase as a whole is not great at telling trolls apart from bad players. Like Imperial Pandaa said, Riot tries to avoid issuing incorrect punishments.

what if i try to not speak at all? anymore is there any chance to play again? or no?

On this account - no. You were permabanned, the punishment was not in error, your account's gone.

You could create a new account and take the lesson you learned from the previous one into it, but you're not getting back any of the experience, Honor, or content you previously had.

WhisperOfLove1 votes

none of troll players i had reported got punishment, so dont tell me there are rules fro trolls/feeders so that means, there is no chance for second shot? i thought everyone deserve a chance

Umbral Regent2 votes

First off, if you're going to reply to people, actually click the "Reply" button under their comment. It makes your responses easier to track.

none of troll players i had reported got punishment, so dont tell me there are rules fro trolls/feeders

You don't know whether or not the players you reported got punished, and, no, don't tell me you do know because you didn't get an Instant Feedback Report. Those are unreliable at best.

And if you didn't get an Instant Feedback Report, that means it either didn't send, or they weren't trolls. I'm gonna err on the latter.

And, yes, there are punishments for trolls and intentional feeders. Here are two examples to that effect - an intentionally feeding Trundle, and a trolling Anivia.

Both got banned. You can't tell me there isn't punishment for trolls and feeders when I have proof that there is.

so that means, there is no chance for second shot? i thought everyone deserve a chance

You had a second chance, and as far as we know, you've had three extra chances.

You still have yet to confirm your punishment history, so we've only got to assume that you blew all three chances. You don't need a fourth.

WhisperOfLove1 votes

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First off, if you're going to reply to people, actually click the "Reply" button under their comment. It makes your responses easier to track.

You don't know whether or not the players you reported got punished, and, no, don't tell me you do know because you didn't get an Instant Feedback Report. Those are unreliable at best.

And if you didn't get an Instant Feedback Report, that means it either didn't send, or they weren't trolls. I'm gonna err on the latter.

And, yes, there are punishments for trolls and intentional feeders. Here are two examples to that effect - an intentionally feeding Trundle, and a trolling Anivia.

Both got banned. You can't tell me there isn't punishment for trolls and feeders when I have proof that there is.

You had a second chance, and as far as we know, you've had three extra chances.

You still have yet to confirm your punishment history, so we've only got to assume that you blew all three chances. You don't need a fourth.

first of all im talking about my report and not yours second of all, im talking to the riot , and i cant understand your rage on this forums, i would report you for useless replys also all im talking about is asking for another chance, cuz i did many things to reach at this place, so many skins so many good things i dont want to lose all the times/money/joy so riot please !

Umbral Regent2 votes

im talking about my report and not yours

...I am also talking about your report. Nowhere did I bring up a report of my own.

second of all, im talking to the riot , and i cant understand your rage on this forums, i would report you for useless replys also

Just because you don't want to acknowledge my replies doesn't make them useless.

If you want a Riot response, file a Support ticket. You come to the community forums, you get community responses.

Regardless, I already told you - if you got banned for flaming, Riot won't overturn the punishment.

WhisperOfLove1 votes

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...I am also talking about your report. Nowhere did I bring up a report of my own.

Just because you don't want to acknowledge my replies doesn't make them useless.

If you want a Riot response, file a Support ticket. You come to the community forums, you get community responses.

Regardless, I already told you - if you got banned for flaming, Riot won't overturn the punishment.

one more time, its not you who have to decide about my punishment, and if im here cuz i have problem to make a ticket and i dont have to answer you that why im here, im here cuz i need to talk to the riot and its the only way i have

if you report someone , you will get notification when they got punishment or no, thats why i said no one got punishment of troll/feed cuz i already reported many players and nothing happened

riot care about positive experience and has punishment for negative ones, so where is good experience for me in these 2-3 years? when i played all time with troll player and i did report, where was responsibility? you just ban for flame? just flame is negative experience? and not troll? a single player make other 4 players lose ranking game on purpose and thats not negative experience? dont tell me they do punish that guy again, cuz as i said i did already reported and nothing happened

so if riot cares about positive experience, where have you been all those times i had headache? where where you when i kept losing 5 games in a row cuz of afk/troll players? wasnt that negative enough to punishment? and if i say "stfu" to a player that enough to perma ban? Riot you didnt show me your responsibility, it made me sad and angry i saw how easily some make you lose without getting ban, they all laughed at me when i said i gonna report you, you know why? cuz there was no punishment for trolls so yes, thats so unfair of me perma ban someone who had negative experience all time and there was no one from riot to help me

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