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Would like to appeal a 14 day Suspension for Intentionally Feeding.

ChadThunderCóck··3 votes·1,881 views

Yes, I did Intentionally feed, there's no point in lying but let me explain exactly what happened.

So I created this new account so I could play with my friends, I didn't really want to ruin new players experience by playing against them in a blind/draft mode so I have been playing against bots mostly , at least 90% of my games are against bots, the other 10% are when I'm playing blind/draft with my friends.

So today I woke up and was a bit bored of playing vs bots so I decided to try and go for a normal draft pick game alone, I pick Zoe in champion select and my Janna bans Zoe so I can't pick her and starts dehumanizing me for playing Zoe saying how it's a retarded champion & so on.

So I proceeded to intentionally feed.

I realize this wasn't the proper course of action, however, this only happened because a summoner decided to flame me & ruin the game for me and yet he didn't get any kind of punishment. I did NOT flame him at all, not even a single insult word in the whole game which I'm sure a Rioter could testify if you see my chat logs and I usually just mute them at the start of the game, but what he did really tilted me because he obviously did it on purpose so he could troll.

I would like to have my 14 day Suspension removed because I honestly believe that it wasn't deserved, I have never been reported or inted before, it was the first time I ever did this and it was an immediate ban simply because a guy decided to ruin others people game.

51 Comments

Imperial Pandaa9 votes

So you got mad at 1 person for ruining your game, so you decide to ruin the game for everyone else in that match?

You admit to int feeding and you int fed which resulted in a ban. How was it undeserved? You ruined the game for 9 others

Edit: Looked at op.gg. your first item was boots at 3 minutes. Mobis at 6. Took cleanse and smite. Didn't bother to even try farming the first 8 minutes. All in a 16 minute game.

ChadThunderCóck1 votes

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archerno14 votes

{quoted}

Oh so ruining the game for me was fine but getting back at him isn't. Seems like fine judgment. This is exactly why people complain about LoL where players are such special snowflakes, 95% of the players would probably commit suicide if they ever played CS GO or any game without such a retarded system.

Flaming, revenge, grief, agony, enjoyment are all emotions felt in a competitive environment, this happens all the time in real life sports but I guess happening in a GAME is too much because that's just how special kids are today, beta males at its finest no wonder feminism and cucks are running rampant.

Tribunal system was 100x better.

This is like someone raping a women, the women kills him and the family complains that she ruined her family by killing him in a self defense situation.

Yep perfect judgment right here boys

He ruined game for you. You ruined it for 9 players. You are right. It shouldnt be 14 days ban. Should be perma

Kitty Cat Tosha6 votes

If the woman killed her rapist "in the act", no judge would call it anything other than self defense.

If she looked him up a week later to shoot him between the eyes, it's murder in any justice system.

Where your analogy fails however, is that intentionally feeding in a game can in no way or reason be constructed as "self defense". It was just petty retaliation. And not only did you give the real bastard EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTED (thus rewarding him for his behaviour), you screwed over at least three other people in the process as well.

But yeh, keep on acting like you're the tough guy. All you are showing to the world is the image of a little child who is not used to the word "no".

ChadThunderCóck1 votes

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Kitty Cat Tosha3 votes

well then, you should embrace your ban if you are proud of your behaviour. Mark of honor, amiright?

ModPeriscope2 votes

It doesn't matter if others wanted to report. It only takes one report to trigger a review of one's game.

Modi1 votes

Honestly, I'm glad I screwed the game for the others, considering how they didn't want to report Janna for his toxic behaviour.

You do realize that only you need to report someone for that player's chat to be reviewed, right? Who cares if everyone else doesn't want to report them, multiple reports in one game don't hold any more weight than one report in a single game.

I guess retards like to be around retards

If you chat like this in game, then I can imagine you will be back here soon. Might I ask, if this is how you really feel, why are you appealing for a removal of your suspension?

literally

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/9e/9e7e9dea082b041d688e0bd10e2cc0ec984947d11aab246df8cf1be99c09c58e.jpg

Imperial Pandaa4 votes

Did I say his actions were okay? Nope. Did I point out that you did the same as him but worse? Yes.

1 person ruined your game. And no, that isn't right. You went and ruined the game for 8 other people. It wasn't just you and him, there were 8 other people besides you two. As you said in your OP "simply because a guy decided to ruin others people game." Maybe you both deserve punishment, but yours isn't in error.

I play CS:GO and other games without a problem, so your argument is kind of moot.

You are killing your own credibility with these pointless accusations. You say this happens in real life sports? Perhaps, but should an official/ref witness it, there is probably going to be a penalty. And now here is the beta/snowflake claims. What next? Gonna throw in the safe space?

Tribunal would have punished you too.

This analogy you chose is weak because they aren't even close to being similar because as you put it. It is a game.

ChadThunderCóck1 votes

Tribunal system didn't ban people left and right like you're banned now, the system in LOL is the most ridiculous system in any current game in the market ATM, it's literally a joke.

And yes it happens in real life sports all the time & the penalty isn't anywhere near as severe as "lul now you can't play for 14 days"

Imperial Pandaa4 votes

Really? No punishment from things in real life sports? Looking at a list of suspensions involving the NFL, included are:

Conduct detrimental to the league

Conduct detrimental to the team

Violation of the league's personal conduct policy, stemming from an argument during a game with Falcons head coach (oh snap a personal conduct policy)

Violation of the league's anti-violence policy

Unsportsmanlike conduct, stemming from multiple personal fouls in a loss against the Denver Broncos

Violating team rules.

Violation of the league's personal conduct policy, stemming from fighting teammate .

Stomping of... List player and team.

Violation of the team's social media policy

Removing and swinging Miami Dolphins guard Richie Incognito's helmet

Detrimental conduct

And these usually had them barred from a certain amount of games ranging from 1 to indefinite. Mind you this was just NFL, but am sure you could find more examples with other sports. Worth mentioning, I did exclude ones that involved scandals or things involving the law.

Timethief491 votes

Yeah it didn't Ban left and right cause it was 1000 Times slower. If you Look Back at it with a hgih Speed it did exactly the same.

Verxint1 votes

Actually one of the problems with Tribunal is that people often didn't read the cases and just hit punish on every one

Barkhoof1 votes

Checklist:

[ ] Denying it happened [ X ] Blaming SJW [ ] My brother/sister/dad hacked my account while I was at school [ X ] HORRIBLE analogy [ X ] Use of "snowflake" [ ] Reply uses attempt to pander to board members then insults board members. [ X ] "I should be able to defend myself" [ ] Wall of text [ ] Posting obvious text that completely disproves OPs original assessment [ ] Tantram smite

I can come back and edit as necessary.

Modi1 votes

[ X ] HORRIBLE analogy

Not horrible, just incorrect. More accurately, this is like a person being assaulted. Then, after the assault, the victim decides to assault the original perpetrator in retribution.

In the original analogy, the OP describes a situation that could be terminated by the counter attack (herein: defend one's self). Where the analogy breaks down is that no matter how much you try, a counter attack won't end the assault.

Barkhoof3 votes

The OP goes to play a normal game, has the champ they hover over banned and get insulted, so they enter the game and intentionally feed. This is the equivalent of a person getting raped, defending themselves, then being accused of ruining the family? There's almost no one on God's green earth that would look at that situation and place any guilt on the person being raped. That analogy abdicates ANY guilt of the OP. The minority of people would side with the OP when he/she should've just dodged if it meant that much to them. I'm sticking with my "horrible analogy".

ModPeriscope2 votes

you're submitting this punishment to peer review right now. You intentionally fed. There is no available reason that would absolve you of this. You just want freedom to retaliate in whatever manner you see fit.

Modi4 votes

Oh so ruining the game for me was fine but getting back at him isn't. Seems like fine judgment.

Thank you for admitting your intent was purely retribution. At least you aren't trying to say you were "defending myself".

This is exactly why people complain about LoL where players are such special snowflakes, 95% of the players would probably commit suicide if they ever played CS GO or any game without such a retarded system.

Another case of "I can't do/say whatever I want, so that means everyone is a special snowflake".

Flaming, revenge, grief, agony, enjoyment are all emotions felt in a competitive environment, this happens all the time in real life sports but I guess happening in a GAME is too much because that's just how special kids are today, beta males at its finest no wonder feminism and cucks are running rampant.

Oh what a sadly narrow view of the world. I love comments where people talk about "feminism" or "beta males", as if it were a disease to be ridden from the world. Here's a little secret: you are not an alpha male. You are at home, complaining about a video game. That is not alpha behavior.

Tribunal system was 100x better.

The tribunal didn't ban for inting. The tribunal's focus was on chat related offenses. Sorry to burst your bubble, but if you were found inting in the old system, you would have been punished just the same as you are now.

This is like someone raping a women, the women kills him and the family complains that she ruined her family by killing him in a self defense situation.

Was your life in danger? Did the big bad words of Janna hurt you so much? If so, then I don't think the internet is for you. That aside, you have three main tools to deal with people who are flaming you: mute (basically taking away any weapon that they have), report them (the expected behavior of this community, when you see unacceptable behavior), and move on (the most healthy way to deal with the stress of someone flaming you is to just not dwell on it).

If your ego is so shallow and and fragile that the opinion of a complete stranger on the internet can get under your skin and trigger you so easily, then I rest my case, that you are one of the "beta males" as you call them. If you want people to believe that you are an alpha, then do the following:

Build a bridge, and get over it.

Yep perfect judgment right here boys

Hey, the first logical thing you have said (as far as I can see)! You are absolutely right, it is perfect judgement. You inted; you were punished for inting; your punishment fits the violation, as described by the guidelines.

Punishment deserved.

Kei1436 votes

So the flamer blames the troll/inter for his reason to start flaming.

The inter blames the flamer for his reason to start inting.

The cycle of toxicity continues. They will get banned, and so will you. Nasus

ChadThunderCóck1 votes

Wrong. The troll/flamer blames me for playing Zoe.

I blame him for trolling on purpose & banning my champion & proceed to flame me. Yet he did not get any punishment at all meanwhile I got instantly punished when none of this would've happened if the guy didn't troll/flame in the first place. The fact that I have been reported 0 times prior to this should be proof enough.

Umbral Regent1 votes

Did you report them? Because if you didn't, then of course they're not going to get punished. And them walking away scott-free is on you.

ChadThunderCóck1 votes

Yes, I did

Umbral Regent1 votes

Then, if they trolled and flamed, odds are high they'll get punished.

Final Spark Lux5 votes

If you'd like to appeal your ban, your best bet is submitting a ticket directly to Riot Support.

Regardless if you flamed the other player, you still intentionally fed, which still warrants a punishment. It sounds like you had prior punishments since this one resulted in a 14 day ban. No matter what the offense is, if it comes after a 25 game mute, the next punishment is guaranteed to be a 14 day ban. If not, then it sounds like Riot found something more than 1 game of feeding to me.

It might give us some insight into the situation if you post your chat logs.

BeatzBoyFTW3 votes

I'm pretty sure according to Riot, Intentional Feeding's first punishment is a straight 14 days suspension.

Final Spark Lux3 votes

Can't say I've heard of too many cases involving a 14 day off one game of feeding, so I'm not too familiar with it, though it is entirely possible. I'd still be interested in seeing their chat logs though.

Imperial Pandaa3 votes

There aren't chat logs. He didn't flame, just int fed.

Cleanse/Smite, boots first item at 3 minutes, mobis at 6, and didn't farm first 8 minutes.

Int feeding starts with 14 day ban because there is no chat to punish/restrict.

JeLLö1 votes

If you are actually caught and registered as inting it is a 14 day ban first punishment. The problem is it usually takes more games than 1 for the system to catch (at least historically) since RIOT has said their trolling/inting detecting needs improvement so there is a perception that you have to do it habitually to get punished.

Imperial Pandaa2 votes

It was super easy for the system to detect with this case. It was his first lose with Ashe and the previous things have mentioned.

First items seems to be boots at 3 minutes. Second item Mobis at 5. Not farming until 8 minutes. (12 cs) Cleanse and Smite 15 deaths in a 14 minute game.

So going from like a 15 game 100% wr on Ashe to that, it got flagged real quick.

Oxyrotten4 votes

{quoted}

Yes, I did Intentionally feed, there's no point in lying but let me explain exactly what happened.

No. There is no excuse. None.

There is a special place in hell for int'ers, trolls, and quitters. 2 weeks is the least of your worries now.

ChadThunderCóck2 votes

I'm sure you'd have a lot of fun playing an account with a handful of champions and a guy bans one of the couple champions you can play with on purpose and proceeds to flame you.

Judging other people is easy because you're not the one in their shoes.

Oxyrotten4 votes

You can dodge just like the rest of us.

You can talk all you want, but there is no excuse for int'ing. None. Period. End of conversation.

A good excuse or not, it's still an excuse. And what you did was still wrong.

ChadThunderCóck1 votes

I never said it wasn't wrong, I know it was wrong but I don't think it was worth a 14 day suspension considering the situation & what led to it. I have never been reported a single time before this and then I instantly get suspended for 1 single game where the guy did his best to get me banned.

Oxyrotten3 votes

{quoted}

I never said it wasn't wrong, I know it was wrong but...

But nothing. It was wrong. Period.

You got punished. Period.

You knew it was against the rules and wrong. You chose to do it anyway.

You don't get to complain about the punishment. You chose this. The end.

ChadThunderCóck1 votes

Killing IRL is also against the law, but doing it in certain situations is allowed & not punishable.

Shit I forgot this is a game and everyone is a special snowflake where proper judgment doesn't apply. Everything is black and white

Oxyrotten4 votes

Killing is not against the law. Murder is against the law. Manslaughter is against the law. Self defense is allowed.

Your argument is invalid. It has nothing to do with judgement. You knew the rules. You broke the rules.

It's called int'ing for a reason. It stands for intentionally feeding. You intentionally broke the rules. You have no ground for argument.

ChadThunderCóck1 votes

I forgot murder & manslaughter aren't the act of killing.

I also forgot that in self defense you're still INTENTIONALLY killing someone to defend yourself.

Kei1434 votes

your goal in self defense is not to kill, it is to defend.

if you intended to kill someone during defense, then it becomes manslaughter or murder.

In your specific case, you decided to kill out of revenge. Intent, plan, action and motive are clear, thus it is murder.

Oxyrotten2 votes

Well I am glad you remembered. Because the act of killing is not in question. The act of killing has been defined by law based on the intent of the killer.

In your case it would be intent to throw the game. It would be intent to ruin other people's fun. It would be intent to waste people's time. It would be intent to ruin other people's experience. It would be intent to be toxic.

Your not helping your case, you should probably stop before the hole you are digging gets too deep.

hshtagniemehrcdu3 votes

{quoted}

Killing IRL is also against the law, but doing it in certain situations is allowed & not punishable.

Yeah.. in self-defense situations, where the killing would safe your life, or that of another. Tell me how your action does anythign to protect you or to improve your situation? Your actions do nothign but make the situation worse, including for 8 other people who didn't have anything to do with it.

Shit I forgot this is a game and everyone is a special snowflake where proper judgment doesn't apply. Everything is black and white

So. Someone bans your champ, and flames you. You get so pissed off about it that you int. Then, afterwards, you come crying here that you want your ban lifted.

Proper judgement is handed out. There's just one snowflake here and it's you.

gtfo..

Umbral Regent4 votes

considering the situation & what led to it.

No, the situation and what led to you intentionally feeding are not in the equation. It doesn't matter if someone banned your pick intent, it doesn't matter if someone flamed you, there is no excuse for you to feed. Hell - the amount of people who get punished for "defending themselves" or counterflaming flamers should tell you that Riot has a firm stance against retaliation of any sort.

On top of that, the immediate 14-day Suspension is the baseline punishment for Intentional Feeding, and any other gameplay-related offense. You, by feeding, ruined the game for the rest of your team, and potentially those on the enemy team. And because you said it yourself - you didn't flame, you didn't argue, you didn't insult - a chat restriction wouldn't be a suitable penalty if you didn't chat, now would it?

Whether you like it or not, it is worth a 14-day suspension. No other punishment on the ladder would cut it - save maybe a permaban, but Riot believes in reform, so, you can never get permabanned on your first offense.

But, this does mean any offense of any variety - chat related or gameplay related - will result in a permanent ban. And you'll be on thin ice for quite a while.

Imperial Pandaa3 votes

I might be incorrect, but I think the punishments run separate. Been a bit but I remember someone being confused how they got two 14 day bans in a row within like 10 days of the other.

1 was for chat and the other was for game actions (troll/int/account sharing)

Umbral Regent2 votes

It's very likely. I could very well be wrong, but without any knowledge to that end, I kinda just defaulted to the assumption of them being on the same line.

That case does sound interesting, though. I'm not going to ask for you to look it up - wouldn't want to burden you - but if you happen to do so of your own volition, I'd be interested in checking it out.

Imperial Pandaa3 votes

Work is dead because of snow, so here you go.

{quoted}

Hmm possibly.

One for intentional feeding and one for Toxic language. You're prob right.

I would prefer a Riot source but it was interesting to learn.

Grimspeake2 votes

Can we make it 28 days because of his name too.

nerak231 votes

OP, could you copy and paste the reason they gave you for the ban? This could clear up things a bit .

Negativity1 votes

You are so narrow minded it almost funny, you "getting back" at the guy who trolled you caused the rest of your team to suffer because you are to immature to understand the impact you're having on the players who didn't do anything wrong to you.

Like how is this not obvious? 1 guy upsets you so you destroy your whole team, I'm sure they didn't do anything to you yet they had to sit there and have a bad game because of you

You will not be unbanned so you can cry up a storm and insult me for calling you the moron that you are, that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that you'll need to grow up :) good day kiddo hope playing hooky isn't keep ur grades down

Siegfriedx21 votes

"Yes, I did Intentionally feed, there's no point in lying but let me explain exactly what happened."

Case closed, appeal denied.

EvilDustMan1 votes

Try having a name that doesn't make you seem 13.

nerak231 votes

Everyone needs to stop comparing the game with Rape and Murder ! This is wrong!

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