Insight on my punishment

Harlus·9/24/2017, 3:50:02 AM·5 votes·1,957 views

Hi there. For some context, I was banned yesterday for my toxic behavior spread throughout several games as you can see from the chat logs below. I was at the lowest tier of punishment at the time of the ban (meaning that my account has been punishment-free for a long time). However, even while maintaining this reputation, my in-game behavior caused my punishment to escalate past the first AND second tier, resulting in a 14-day ban. The chat logs I am posting are the complete chat logs I have recieved on my reform card and I am not hiding anything.

Note: I have not created this thread to prove my innocence, nor to claim that I was not toxic during my games. I admit it, I was toxic in these games and possibly made someone's playing experience unenjoyable. I'm here to explain why I believe that a 14-day suspension for this behavior is unreasonable, and to see others' unbiased perspectives on this. A lot of the time when I am playing alongside my friends I type excessively in chat and make silly jokes to try and get them to laugh. And with this, I sometimes go overboard with the chat and my words negatively affect someone who isn't premade and might ruin their experience. I am aware that this is not acceptable.

This is my first time posting on the forums and I thought I would post on here to listen to other players'/rioters'/arbiters' opinion on the matter and if the punishment given is reasonable. Please feel free to provide your insight. I have numbered every line so it is easier to refer to a specific part of the chat. Below, I am going to mention every part of this chat that I deem to be "toxic behavior" and explain further.

  1. Game 1
  2. Harlus: elise is spider
  3. Harlus: and all girl is scare of spider
  4. Harlus: that means i have big DICCCCCCC
  5. Harlus: LOL X?d
  6. Harlus: am i getin out jg or no X?D
  7. Harlus: baited n outplay
  8. Harlus: matter it does
  9. Harlus: bait n oat ple
  10. Harlus: puny idiot dumb head
  11. Harlus: u have erectile dissonance?
  12. Harlus: one day u come
  13. Harlus: XDDD
  14. Harlus: LMFAO
  15. Harlus: fidsojgdsoigkosdgopdsmhds
  16. Harlus: LOPLLL
  17. Harlus: no he scripted
  18. Harlus: akali u are messing with Wrong Person
  19. Harlus: LL
  20. Harlus: waiot
  21. Harlus: wtf
  22. Harlus: LOL
  23. Harlus: WHAT AM I WATC
  24. Harlus: racist
  25. Harlus: LOL
  26. Harlus: did u see that
  27. Harlus: ?
  28. Harlus: for
  29. Harlus: LOL
  30. Harlus: LOL
  31. Harlus: KIK
  32. Harlus: LOL
  33. Harlus: I
  34. Harlus: IM
  35. Harlus: ;LAUGHING
  36. Harlus: SO
  37. Harlus: HARD
  38. Harlus: GRAGAS
  39. Harlus: KILLED ME
  40. Harlus: DID U SEE HIM
  41. Harlus: IM LAUGHING SO AHRD
  42. Harlus: HJOLY FK
  43. Harlus: LOL
  44. Harlus: sb?
  45. Harlus: it's a normal game
  46. Harlus: ppl dont tryhard in norm
  47. Harlus: and sweat
  48. Harlus: like you
  49. Harlus: and then gloat
  50. Harlus: LOL
  51. Harlus: wait
  52. Harlus: what
  53. Harlus: how did u not activate
  54. Harlus: holy FK
  55. Harlus: LMFAO
  56. Harlus: LMFAO\
  57. Harlus: LMFAO
  58. Harlus: HOLY
  59. Harlus: SHOI]T
  60. Harlus: LOOOOOOOOOO
  61. Harlus: did u have 3
  62. Harlus: LOL
  63. Harlus: LOL
  64. Harlus: XD
  65. Harlus: LMFAO
  66. Harlus: HOW DO U KNOW
  67. Harlus: akali is trolling u
  68. Harlus: vasc
  69. Harlus: u are feed trol l A Subway Pizza
  70. Harlus: LOL
  71. Harlus: FIORA
  72. Harlus: fiora are u sb
  73. Harlus: vasc read what fiora said
  74. Harlus: U Are Messing With Riot Son
  75. Harlus: Father will BAN u
  76. Harlus: village wall with ur dad
  77. Harlus: TriHard Kappa
  78. Game 2
  79. Harlus: Mark My Word, This Summoner IS Carrier Of Teaam!
  80. Harlus: LOL
  81. Harlus: fuck off
  82. Harlus: fuck
  83. Harlus: u
  84. Harlus: lux %%%
  85. Harlus: hHAHA
  86. Harlus: lux %%%
  87. Harlus: LMFAOO
  88. Harlus: HE SB UR MOM
  89. Harlus: Rng Rengar JG??
  90. Harlus: 5 hp
  91. Harlus: omg
  92. Harlus: fffffffffuc
  93. Harlus: she hit me with Silver Bolt Attack
  94. Harlus: this lux maked me wetted
  95. Harlus: top lane
  96. Harlus: is so intensse
  97. Harlus: holy fk
  98. Harlus: wtf she got full hp
  99. Harlus: LOL
  100. Harlus: does u penis have a Bone?
  101. Harlus: LOL
  102. Harlus: LMFAOOO
  103. Harlus: SHE'S SB
  104. Harlus: y?
  105. Harlus: why dont they shoe ahri recall naked with her actual bob n vagen
  106. Harlus: wanna see lol
  107. Harlus: LOL
  108. Harlus: they stream sniping u
  109. Harlus: LOL
  110. Harlus: dude i legit cant do anything
  111. Harlus: can we like switch wtfff
  112. Harlus: ok i go mid
  113. Harlus: thx
  114. Harlus: LOL
  115. Harlus: im mid
  116. Harlus: ok
  117. Harlus: fk u
  118. Harlus: LOL
  119. Harlus: we are different champ
  120. Harlus: ok
  121. Harlus: fk U?
  122. Harlus: shes mid
  123. Harlus: now
  124. Harlus: L
  125. Harlus: holy fk im ded
  126. Harlus: now kaynme is topo
  127. Harlus: L,L
  128. Harlus: what
  129. Harlus: sorry
  130. Harlus: lmfao
  131. Harlus: LOL
  132. Harlus: wait
  133. Harlus: trynd
  134. Harlus: is farming jg
  135. Harlus: wtf
  136. Harlus: wtf
  137. Harlus: OMG
  138. Harlus: LUX
  139. Harlus: ILY
  140. Harlus: DID U SEE HOW LUX SAVED ME
  141. Harlus: they all coming
  142. Harlus: croc
  143. Harlus: i got u bb
  144. Harlus: holy
  145. Harlus: shit
  146. Harlus: i just got dingle dogged
  147. Harlus: taiwan hot dog
  148. Harlus: she fucking
  149. Harlus: dodged my q
  150. Harlus: i
  151. Harlus: hate
  152. Harlus: i cant
  153. Harlus: touch her
  154. Harlus: ik
  155. Harlus: i was gonna say
  156. Harlus: i hate vayne
  157. Harlus: bc
  158. Harlus: i cant
  159. Harlus: touch her
  160. Harlus: LOL
  161. Harlus: "bate like a master"
  162. Harlus: dude wtf
  163. Harlus: did u see that glitch
  164. Harlus: lmfao
  165. Harlus: holy
  166. Harlus: shit
  167. Harlus: trynd
  168. Harlus: press r
  169. Harlus: lmao
  170. Harlus: u had ult
  171. Harlus: holy fk LOL
  172. Harlus: lol no?
  173. Harlus: fk off idot
  174. Harlus: LOLFGSDLOPGDSKJPOHGDSJK
  175. Harlus: LMFAOOO
  176. Harlus: HOLY SHIT
  177. Harlus: I TRIED TO BAIT
  178. Harlus: IT ALMOST WORKED
  179. Harlus: BUT
  180. Harlus: SHE STUNNED ME
  181. Harlus: SOMEHOW?
  182. Harlus: NO
  183. Harlus: i was
  184. Harlus: TRYND LOL
  185. Harlus: omg
  186. Harlus: lux
  187. Harlus: sex
  188. Harlus: me
  189. Harlus: im smurfette
  190. Harlus: u sha bi
  191. Harlus: vayne ur penis is Bone Voyage?
  192. Harlus: lmao
  193. Harlus: aareiu hfseiu jiosdpgjopik ds
  194. Harlus: wjat thje fuck
  195. Harlus: LMAOO
  196. Harlus: ULT
  197. Harlus: TRYND
  198. Harlus: ULT
  199. Harlus: BRO WTF
  200. Harlus: HE DOESNT ULT
  201. Harlus: press R
  202. Harlus: JUST PRESS
  203. Harlus: R
  204. Harlus: HOW
  205. Harlus: IF UR DYING
  206. Harlus: XXXXXXXXXX
  207. Harlus: LOL
  208. Harlus: LOL
  209. Harlus: it's ok brooooooooooo
  210. Harlus: but seriously how do u not notice
  211. Harlus: if ur gonna fucking die
  212. Harlus: the first thing u do is look
  213. Harlus: at ur ult
  214. Harlus: LUX
  215. Harlus: i will report
  216. Harlus: gj !!
  217. Harlus: ok
  218. Harlus: LOL
  219. Harlus: vayne ult
  220. Harlus: trynd

Lines that I think have been flagged by the system, resulting in my punishment:

Line 10: This line probably got flagged because it seems like an insult towards another player. However, my use of the words "puny idiot dumb head" was not intended to be taken as an insult, but it is rather to be taken lightly, as a joke (hence the word "head").

Line 45: This might have been flagged, I'm not certain but I'll explain anyways. Over here I am typing in all chat to an Akali that called my friend really bad (or something like that) and I simply tried to defend my friend

Lines 81-86: I believe what I had said in these lines is the main reason for why my punishment had actually skipped to a 14-day ban (correct me if I am wrong). In the first part where I say "fuck off" and "fuck u", that actually isn't directed to anyone other than my friend. I believe nobody else had even said anything in chat before this so there would really be no way that it could be directed at anyone else. The second part (lines 86 and 84), unfortunately I cannot defend in any way, as it was incredibly stupid on my part and cannot be justified. You can see me saying "%%%" to my Lux, which I understand is completely unacceptable and that saying something like this is up there (in terms of seriousness) with homophobic and racist chat.

So why I said that to Lux (sounds really stupid I know)....:

My friend was playing the "DeLux Jam (LuxMix)" song in Discord (which I hate because it gets stuck in my head every time and she knows that) and at the same time coincidentally, we had a Lux on our team. I decided that it would be a good idea (clearly not..) to express my "attitude" towards the song by saying what I did in chat. I am ashamed of what I did and have definitely learned my lesson to not immaturely say such kind of things, especially towards players I do not recognize. I did not mean what I had said to our Lux and I would never wish that upon anyone, it was just impulsive and irresponsible.

Line 117: Me replying to my friend saying "how u losser to this guy" as funny banter (it's clear that I directed this to nobody else) Line 121: Me replying to my friend saying "ur mom is champ" again just banter that means nothing Line 173: This is me solely replying to my friend as he said "your nob" and then pinged me multiple times (as a joke). He would keep taking my kill at the last moment (which I thought was funny, nothing toxic here)

proof: https://gyazo.com/0edcaea7c24b7f69c3667669582ae904 https://gyazo.com/e9285fc09e2613f0598d4e8540ab9716

As you can see it isn't directed at anyone but my friend as a joke.

That's all for the lines that I think are worthy of a punishment. If you guys see any other parts I missed let me know.

In conclusion, I know that I deserve a punishment for this (especially what I said in game 3) but I don't think a 14-day ban is reasonable considering my history and considering that I'm honour level 5 which tells me that a lot of people have actually enjoyed playing with me in the past. I don't intend to ruin the game for anyone, but I can get carried away in my own fun sometimes

EDIT: I have every game recorded (thanks to plays tv) and I can send both recordings and screenshots from these games to support my claims

11 Comments

ModThe Djinn9/24/2017, 4:30:01 AM4 votes

Assuming the censored portion was an encouragement to self harm or a slur (the two three letter phrases censored on the boards), that is why. Both are subject to a zero tolerance policy and earn a 14-day ban on the first confirmed offense.

Reket DeAlk9/24/2017, 4:27:12 AM3 votes

Lines 84 and 86, the words that got changed to %'s would be what jumped you up. There is a zero tolerance policy for that kind of language.

If you had not said that, you would've just ended up with a chat ban instead. But that is definitely enough to escalate you to a 14 day ban.

Bothkinds9/24/2017, 8:42:57 AM2 votes

......... So... How do you have time to type that many messages AND play league?

Estayopid9/24/2017, 12:10:21 PM2 votes

It's 100% reasonable sorry to say for you to earn a 14-day ban. What i find interesting is the difference in you're way of talking in game as compared to what's written here. Bare in mind, even if whatever you type in chat isn't directed at anyone, it still creates a negative environment and mood. Imagine saying FU%% THIS SH%% in a children's hospital, what do you think nurses/doctors will do? (They'd warn you several times.. then kick you out)

Rodder9/24/2017, 6:43:08 PM2 votes

Harlus: elise is spider Harlus: and all girl is scare of spider Harlus: that means i have big DICCCCCCC

OMG i remember that. I have been in that game too or someone stole your jokes with typos.

If yes, i was the Lux rocking bot who got flamed for KSing all the time :D that game was real fun ( well, not for the wannabecarry who rather loses then not be the hero ). That game was all friendly banter and some sweet mid tears bcs, you know, better lose then getting carried by a sup ...

Problem: No matter how friendly, you cant say certain things. People got banned ( appealed and unbanned after a human took a look ) for flaming themself with sentences like "OMG i am so stupid, i should kill myself". There is an automated chat analysis that doesnt get "complicated" grammar, and Customer Support sees it all out of context. Its better to just not write things that can be seen as toxic, if out of context. The customer support doesnt know that the guy is your best friend, all they see are the chat logs and that somebody reported you.

Voldymort9/25/2017, 10:37:51 AM1 votes

Harlus: fuck off Harlus: fuck Harlus: u Harlus: lux %%% Harlus: hHAHA Harlus: lux %%% Harlus: LMFAOO Harlus: HE SB UR MOM

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