rank without runes or masteries?

Kenchi Ramora··2 votes·1,427 views

should new players without any previous ranked experience be allowed to play duo without runes or masteries on both partners? cause i just had a case where this happened and they fed the lane pretty hard and seemed to not have a very good understanding of the game.

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Onegarion1 votes

runes and masteries aren't going to stop that. They only give a small early game boost to stats for champs. Good play will overcome not having them. You are referring more to bad play and the runes/masteries are just being tagged on for no reason. Bad play is bad play and no amount of runes/masteries can solve that.

Also who is to say they will have well planned out runes masteries? Mana regen on Zed? Full tank ADC? Just having them doesn't meant they are good.

disregardable1 votes

It's more likely though, as the cheapest masteries are the ones used in most rune pages.

Kenchi Ramora1 votes

no i mean they had 2 tier 1 runes thats it and no masteries, with no normal games under there belt only AI games going straight into ranked

Onegarion1 votes

probably a bot. Also could be a smurf. Either way you have to learn some way and bad play won't be overshadowed by having any amount of runes/masteries. There have been professionals who took none and out performed their opponents.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

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runes and masteries aren't going to stop that. They only give a small early game boost to stats for champs. Good play will overcome not having them. You are referring more to bad play and the runes/masteries are just being tagged on for no reason. Bad play is bad play and no amount of runes/masteries can solve that.

Also who is to say they will have well planned out runes masteries? Mana regen on Zed? Full tank ADC? Just having them doesn't meant they are good.

Having them vs. not having them is HUGE. And if you don't understand the MAJOR boosts masteries give, even if wrong for the champion/role, then I can't help you.

Simply put, an ADC with tank masteries is 1000x better than a adc without masteries at all. Same goes for runes. Always has been, always will be. Don't believe me? Try it (in bot games please...).

Onegarion1 votes

I don't really need your help with anything. I've run no runes/masteries multiple times and still outplayed my opponents. I've made it to plat just fine on my own. I've learned how helpful Runes/masteries are, but you don't need them to be good or have an edge. Out playing your enemy bot lane with support runes/masteries back in season 3 was a big deal. Support masteries now aren't as bad in comparison as they were.

These aren't going to make or break your game by any means. These are all based on personal feel and what you want. You could have none and still be LCS level or have the perfect runes/masteries and be bronze. Many people don't take them when they are new because they don't know anything about the game.

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

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I don't really need your help with anything. I've run no runes/masteries multiple times and still outplayed my opponents. I've made it to plat just fine on my own. I've learned how helpful Runes/masteries are, but you don't need them to be good or have an edge. Out playing your enemy bot lane with support runes/masteries back in season 3 was a big deal. Support masteries now aren't as bad in comparison as they were.

These aren't going to make or break your game by any means. These are all based on personal feel and what you want. You could have none and still be LCS level or have the perfect runes/masteries and be bronze. Many people don't take them when they are new because they don't know anything about the game.

Well, you may be some sort of pro that has done a lot of foolish things but to the average player it matters. The average player can't go without runes and masteries and shouldn't be allowed in ranked without them because it's a purely false idea to think they can do ANYTHING but lose in that situation. I believe in setting people up for success, not teaching them by failure.

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