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Is this fair? Is this really fair?

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I was harassed by two teammates (and a half, but he later in champ select told me that it was unfair how the Ivern and Malphite were acting and reporting me, and that he was sorry).

As far as I know, they did not get punished at all. They were beyond toxic...

These are my chat logs, from only one game, though I took some screenshots from in-game if you want to see what I was responding to. I will group them and explain them anyway:

Game 1 ºˆˉˆº: Rumble and Syndra definitely not duo (I was joking cause they had almost the same name in all chat) ºˆˉˆº: Dia 5 isnt good (Teemo was afraid he'd lose bot cause he was matched against a Diamond 5) ºˆˉˆº: dia 2 or 1 is (I was just trying to motivate him by saying Diamond 5 is basically Gold) ºˆˉˆº: yeah

ºˆˉˆº: STFU ºˆˉˆº: stfu (these two were because Ivern ping spammed me at least 15 times while Warwick was ganking me, which distracted me and I died)

ºˆˉˆº: Ivern give me a gank when Im in lane and syndra gone ºˆˉˆº: I got BF ºˆˉˆº: And she has NO FLASH

(here I am asking for a gank cause he was pretty rude, and I was encouraging him because I had gotten items and got Syndra's flash so it should be easy)

ºˆˉˆº: dude just do tit to win omg (here he was being toxic, and I meant 'it' of course; I just wanted one gank since I had a temporary advantage and he was really stubborn)

ºˆˉˆº: I had no ºˆˉˆº: mana (here he was toxic when I took so long to kill Syndra, even though we both lived and I killed her, and she CC'd me to hell)

ºˆˉˆº: She pressed R when I was full health ºˆˉˆº: What the fuck are you on about? (here Ivern/Mal started asking for reports cause I was apparently inting etc, even though I got one-shot by Syndra)

ºˆˉˆº: What? ºˆˉˆº: WHat have I even done??? ºˆˉˆº: ? ºˆˉˆº: Mal ºˆˉˆº: You ºˆˉˆº: DO ºˆˉˆº: Realize ºˆˉˆº: You ºˆˉˆº: Cant ºˆˉˆº: Report ºˆˉˆº: For ºˆˉˆº: Going ºˆˉˆº: OFf meta? ºˆˉˆº: Aight imma full mute im done with you guys

(here they are mocking me and harassing me and keep asking for reports, and I'm trying to defend myself, and then mute them for a bit)

ºˆˉˆº: nj (Blitz got a nice hook and got me a kill)

ºˆˉˆº: I was dead cause Varus ulted me ºˆˉˆº: Map awareness bro (here Ivern asks me where I was, and I answer, cause he was like right next to me when it happened)

ºˆˉˆº: I turned off pings btw ºˆˉˆº: Cause you spam too much (here team asks why I did a certain misplay after they countlessly pinged me, and I tell them I muted pings cause they spam)

ºˆˉˆº: If you werent unnecessarily toxic from the start maybe this wouldnt have happened ºˆˉˆº: But oh, who knows (they flame me further for losing etc)

ºˆˉˆº: Dude ºˆˉˆº: ALl I said was "stfu" cause you ping spammed me (they want to report me for being toxic and Ivern says that I was the one to be toxic first)

ºˆˉˆº: Um ºˆˉˆº: No? ºˆˉˆº: Screenshots? ºˆˉˆº: I won't be banned but ok

(I tell them I have screenshots to prove that they are being toxic and that I wouldn't be banned (which I still did????))

ºˆˉˆº: And why? Tell me please? ºˆˉˆº: You guys flamed me all game ºˆˉˆº: See? ºˆˉˆº: What you're saying is pure toxic ºˆˉˆº: Mocking me ºˆˉˆº: THAT should be banned ºˆˉˆº: How blind are you?

(This is until the end of the game)

Thanks for reading through, I know I could've said certain things better, and I really tried not to be toxic, yet this this happened, while they full out mocked me, flamed me, etc....

77 Comments

Vhan876526 votes

Sounds about right; since when did Riot punish toxicity? You could send them a replay file of someone running it down mid to int and Riot still wouldn't do anything. In fact I have, and nothing happened.

BardKnockLîfe2 votes

Keep QQing, you and i both know they try their best.

Snake Prince3 votes

Draven item 3117 item 3070 item 3070

cmon dude he is just playing off meta , with all that mana stack and item 3043 passive we win late game !!

This Is Your Dad11 votes

If you have no prior punishments this does not deserve a 14-day ban by itself, end of story. However, I do want to see a Rioter come in and give us the full story. Edit: I see you have a previous restriction, and I THINK what happened is they judge you based on when you FINISH the punishment, not when you receive it, so to the system you literally just got off restriction.

ºˆˉˆº3 votes

So what should I do? A Rioter probably won't look into this, and if I send a support ticket I'll receive the infamous automated text, as literally every other player receives, even if innocent. I know it's not a perma, but goddamnit man, I wasn't even that toxic! And the others got off scot-free?

The things they said were WAY more unacceptable than what I had said. In my opinion, the only actual "toxic" thing I had said was stfu, which isn't even that harsh compared to how much he had ping spammed and such...

(I'm not arguing against you don't worry, just venting...)

Stay Close Dear1 votes

{quoted}

So what should I do? A Rioter probably won't look into this, and if I send a support ticket I'll receive the infamous automated text, as literally every other player receives, even if innocent. I know it's not a perma, but goddamnit man, I wasn't even that toxic! And the others got off scot-free?

The things they said were WAY more unacceptable than what I had said. In my opinion, the only actual "toxic" thing I had said was stfu, which isn't even that harsh compared to how much he had ping spammed and such...

(I'm not arguing against you don't worry, just venting...)

but you dont get banned for 1 game, this one you just got marked for the system and it decided it was enough.

ºˆˉˆº4 votes

If I had gotten marked for other games it would have showed up in the chat logs.

Unless you mean for previous restrictions, this one was for only one game, which is why I'm upset in the first place. What I had been punished for before was WAY more harsh than this, and I was rightfully punished. This? This is just unfair.

This Is Your Dad3 votes

This is relatively light. It could be from the fact that most of your chat is negative (Riot doesn't look at any other chat but yours) or that about halfway through you spammed the chat with a message you could have put in one box (chat spam is technically an offense). I totally agree with you, it looks like you were being bullied and it looks like you lost your cool but were trying to just get them to stop. This isn't very bad compared to what I've seen 14 day bans for. I also suggest you write a ticket in, and then post back what they said so we can go over how Riot handled your case.

ºˆˉˆº1 votes

I sent the ticket as a report, and mentioned me getting punished, and linked this thread

ºˆˉˆº1 votes

Yup, they responded to me, and I feel the way s/he handled it was pretty fair.

Skins Project1 votes

wdym riot is pretty responsive, what I would recommend is not asking for an unban but rather report them thru support.

ˉˉˉˉˉˉ1 votes

sup c:

Skins Project1 votes

hoi

ˉˉˉˉˉˉ1 votes

######plz get on steam

Skins Project1 votes

######wait ;-;

ºˆˉˆº1 votes

But I'm trying to get unbanned so I can play too.... (and I guess start perma muting players, or at least try to get used to it...)

Skins Project1 votes

ehhh, mention this post near the end?

Like in the optional link thingy

ºˆˉˆº1 votes

I sent the ticket as a report, and mentioned me getting punished, and linked this thread

Skins Project1 votes

k

ºˆˉˆº1 votes

I got response back, still banned, but satisfied.

Skins Project1 votes

Wat was the response :3

ºˆˉˆº1 votes

You want a summary, or a screencap of the response itself?

Skins Project1 votes

errr whatever

ºˆˉˆº1 votes

http://i.imgur.com/BGnj99U.png

DuskDaUmbreon7 votes

14-day suspension. This means that you had been toxic enough on other occasions to warrant past punishment. This means Riot is already watching you, and you're more likely to be punished than someone who hasn't already been punished.

A misconception you seem to have is that them being toxic prevents you from being punished. It most certainly does not. Your actions are weighed separately from theirs. If you were toxic, you'll be punished, regardless of what they were doing.

You had a very passive-aggressive attitude throughout the entire game. And, in some points, you came off as borderline toxic.

It also could be that this was just the last match you were reported in, and it was a previous one that actually got you punished.

archerno15 votes

Could ya just post log without footnotes? Hard to devipher

ºˆˉˆº2 votes

Sure, I'll post a screenshots from League client, that ok?

archerno12 votes

{quoted}

Sure, I'll post a screenshots from League client, that ok?

Sure. Also is that just 1 game or there are more and have u had 14 days ban?

ºˆˉˆº2 votes

Yes, one game, and 14 day ban

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

Was this your first punishment, or have you had prior chat restrictions?

ºˆˉˆº2 votes

Prior Chat restriction, I know Riot gets sensitive if you've had previous restrictions...

archerno13 votes

{quoted}

Yes, one game, and 14 day ban

This is pretty tame. I suppose they perm u for "stfu" cuz u had 14 days ban. 14 days is last warning, any sign of negativity can get u perma banned

[sona-playing]

Try contacting support

ºˆˉˆº2 votes

Oh nono, sorry I misunderstood, this one IS the 14 day ban

archerno13 votes

{quoted}

Oh nono, sorry I misunderstood, this one IS the 14 day ban

When was 25 chat restriction? Also this shouldnt have been 14 days ban.

They also dislike people calling for reports and since u have tendency to type word by word instead of sentences when u mentioned how "you cant report for off meta" it might have made system think u were calling reports

ºˆˉˆº2 votes

Alright, done

Auroramancer5 votes

Something tells me that it wasn't the toxic players whose reports were validated, but the other non-toxic players whose reports were validated.

You may not have instigated, but you responded and perpetuated the situation. And as someone who is frequently a bystander, having the victim of instigation complain and spam chat is just as annoying/irritating as the instigators themselves.

From someone who has been 2-week suspended before due to responding to instigators, your reformation process will not consist of "don't be toxic". It will consist of "don't feed the trolls who are attacking you".

zPOOPz3 votes

Seems pretty mild to me. Word of advice, if you go to the trouble of saying "imma full mute", ACTUALLY DO IT and stop typing....might save you from the perma.

ºˆˉˆº1 votes

Yeah the thing is, I did fullmute, but the unmuted and only muted pings, I don't know why but I always get anxious after a while of not knowing what my teammates are saying about me...

This Is Your Dad2 votes

Don't worry dude. Trust me, they can say all the shit they want about you BUT in real life they wouldn't know you from Jack and THAT is why you need to place more value in who you know you are and less in what others see you as. Don't let these guys run your life. I bet you're a pretty cool dude in real life, much cooler than people raging behind a screen.

Stay Close Dear2 votes

Just imagine : an argument starts you are mad your teammates are mad teammates start being shitty towards you ( or you towards them )

now you mute them instantly. the end.

it doesnt matter what they say - nothing they say will impact anything it doesnt even matter if they talk to the enemy team and try to get them to report you because if you ve done nothing wrong you will never get banned, nothing to be afraid of. "but now we cant communicate effectively!!" Pings are more than enough for communication, if you need to say something important just type "we should group baron, or ahri no flash" you dont have to unmute them to say that.

People often do this pathethic shit of "I'm muting you" but they re lying, they just stay quiet for a minute and then keep replying, as if they just want to keep fueling on the raging of another person

instead of focusing on how bad their behavior is you think what can you achieve in this game to win it there probably is at least one person you dont need to mute - be happy to have them on your team and try to work with them if the rest doesnt want to

finally, if they see you are playing to win they might start doing that too. "this guy doesnt give a fuck about what I say, im getting no attention so I might aswell try to play"

Luckily in league of legends you dont need to deal with people, you can just ignore them and do your thing.

ºˆˉˆº1 votes

Thing is, they never saw I was playing to win, they were too blinded flaming me. They were gone. They were far off, just.. gone. No changing their minds.

Stay Close Dear2 votes

{quoted}

Thing is, they never saw I was playing to win, they were too blinded flaming me. They were gone. They were far off, just.. gone. No changing their minds.

then why did you argue in the first place? You were also blinded and gone by their offensiveness (is that a word?) I just realised you were banned for 14 days, take this as an expensive lesson, its really simple to fix what you re doing wrong. There was literally no reason to keep talking to any of them, only you are responsible for what you type. If you did nothing instead, now you would be playing another game while they get banned.

Sleepcoma2 votes

send a ticket to riot support, hopefully they can help. there was a post like this a few weeks back and it seemed to get resolved fairly quickly. good luck!

ºˆˉˆº2 votes

Ok but what should I even say in the support ticket? I feel like anything I'd say would come off as rude...

Friendly Ram1 votes

normally i'd just ask for the reasoning behind the ban but i think Deep Terror Nami would have some better ideas when he comes around to the thread.

ºˆˉˆº1 votes

What, I didn't know she was female....

Anyway, will she though? Or is it only a matter of luck?

Friendly Ram1 votes

generally he swims around PB&M but you can also fish around riots discord server.(also DTN is male just always put she when i see nami, sorry for the confusion.)

ºˆˉˆº1 votes

Also uh, how long does he take on average? Cause I'd really like to be able to play again soon...

######even if it means to keep teammates muted

Frostmorne2 votes

you have a mute button. yet u want to hear them flame you all game. [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

WorstLoLplayerEU2 votes

1- 14 day ban means you already had restrictions, so you didn't learn anything from your previous mistake

2- if you can't handle other people just mute them, but you said you get anxious when you don't know what other people say about you.... man, I think you should work more on your self confidence and learn to do your thing without caring too much about others IRL and then in League

3- your chat is idd a bit toxic, I myself would have muted you

4- take this 14 days time as a chance to improve your behavior toward yourself and others, take your time to learn how to handle other's people words and feelings IRL before than in LOL.

LoL is a game. RL isn't

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