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Bring back Tribunal

SoulSteaIerVayne··7 votes·1,083 views

I honestly think they should bring back the tribunal and remove the laziness system that they have in place now, People manipulate it and feel they are free to be the same way since "ill never get banned lololol, im just gonna int and ruin games because I know how the system works." It's honestly true as well, its an automated system and it can be worked like a pole in a club.

The Tribunal however is a community driven and community led banning system, you cant tell the community that someone whos calling their team "Nrs" and "How they should kill themselves" isn't banworthy on the first game but someone who taunts the enemy in all chat ignoring his own teams insults is? The system is not working if the latter is whats banworthy and the former is just scoffed at. Especially when said person add's you later to say "hahahaha enjoy your ban fucknugget", "nrs like you ruin this great game" "I have 36 accounts and ill never get banned from this game"

Add IP banning to the list and this shit would stop instantly, and if someone circumvents that ban the MAC address. They don't deserve to play the game if they continue to show the same behavior over and over again. Toxicity begets toxicity, or for you non-Shakespearean readers, It takes a toxic player to make another player toxic it's not a one way street. People question why this community is so toxic well, a human being can only take so much abuse before they just stop caring about consequences of their actions.

Long story short, Automated systems are bound to being abused, let the community decide whats toxic and what isn't again. You'll see less toxicity in game like back in S2-S3

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Zezockary3 votes

The tribunal was very slow and had many false positives. Almost everybody that used it just hit punish without reading anything as soon as it let them.

IP bans are very, very easy to circumvent and can lead to collateral damage at places like college campuses, where everybody has the same visible IP.

SoulSteaIerVayne2 votes

But it worked, the levels of toxicity now did not exist back then. You were more scared of getting banned than you are now. You were unlucky if you got a feeder or a troll, now its just about every game you get one and you just pray to RNG that its not on your team.

Thats also why I suggested MAC bans, you can't easily change your MAC address, and while Yes as the other poster said it would screw over internet cafe's they keep logs, Last person on said cafe gets a permaban from the cafe as well as having to replace the NIC that he got banned from League servers. Simple fix?

Zezockary1 votes

I have ess toxic peopke in my games nowadays than when the tribunal was open by far. They are pretty rarefor me unless I am playing with a low level friend and that is because of the banned people that make a new account.

I can agree with trying mac bans, but I am not well researched in them. I know what it is, just not so much the pros and cons.

Kei1432 votes

IFS is essentially the same as the tribunal. The system learns from the community reports of what is acceptable and what isn't.

People think they can game the system cos they don't see the system at work, others think the system isn't working thus others are getting away with gaming the system.

In truth, both of those parties don't see the system working when it does work. Thus having misconceptions about the system.

What you need is not bringing the tribunal back, but increasing the visibility with something like this.

SoulSteaIerVayne1 votes

I could actually get behind this, since it would fix both problems

Sarutobi2 votes

As someone who has used the tribunal it wasn't as great as people make it out to be. Hence why Riot took it down. Like others have said people abused the punished mainly because getting the correct action (punish or pardon) got you a small amount of IP, so people basically hit punished just to get the IP. When they stop giving out IP people stop using it.

It was a great way to get the community involved, but they are revamping it. They are suppose to start working on it once the new client is out which is still in beta. With that said though what you are asking for needs to take time. Even if something like this could be implemented a bunch of rioters and the community need to be on it basically 24/7! And don't expect punishment that is basically seconds out of your games especially for first offenders!

Naked Baby Thief2 votes

Tribunal was just as bad. It led to 8 year olds being the deciding verdict the majority of the time. Most adults don't take the free time out of their day to address the issues.

This is aside from my typical rant which I inform people that punishment only has exacerbated the issues in the league community, as it does with all communities, both digital and real world.

People learn through positive reinforcement. Not from punishment.

EvilDustMan1 votes

Tribunal was for edge cases only.

You may have mixed up what is ban worthy. Kys and the n word are bannable first game. Being a turd is not. There are bad days.

MAC addresses would screw Internet cafes.

If permaban rate is .006%, I highly doubt you repeatedly meet multiple repeat offenders.

SoulSteaIerVayne1 votes

I have, several times in ranked matches. These kids usually spout how they don't care if they get banned and idolize Tyler 1 in the respect that they have another account lined up why should they care if one accounts banned they just hop onto the next and continue the same behavior.

Wheres the punishment for such repeat behavior?

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