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I got banned on the account for intentionally feeding before i even understand what that term means

NewHorizonPluto··1 votes·2,616 views

So instantly get banned in my first day of gaming. i played like 3 or 4 beginner games, then start playing pvp, after i played two or three pvp i got banned. I seek help at the live chat beta support ticket, but @Skiwi said i am intentionally feeding without extra explanation. I thought hes mocking at me cuz humans dont feed. then i call again. Another guy called @Opti was a bit nicer, he explained that intentionally feeding is: dying on purpose to lose the game. Wait a moment, did i die on purpose? I dont see any problem of dying, i die alot in my current account too, check my profile. You can say i am pretty bad cuz in beginner game i died alot, but that doesnt mean u prevent me from playing.

According to the guy, i used riven in that game and killed someone, died 20 something. Hell i literally die that much almost every game in my current account, and i still blow em up? i once killed 53 and died 20 using xinzhao, u call that intentionally feeding?

the above link is my nickname, you can check my replays, the live chat beta @Opti told me that 'we know everything'. But seriously, if u r doing ur work, check my replays, u wont just say that ban is reasonable. Clearly u didnt check my replay at all.

Ok then this guy said I am not new, after i explained to him that my friend used his email to create a new account for me on the same computer, so the email is same and the two account is twin. He said he wont cancel my ban/suspension, even though i explained that, he just apologized for libeling me for not a new player. But the ban is still there! I at least need a valid explanation.

old account: MaoZeDongSiXiang new account: NewHorizonPluto my friend's account: uh i dont know if he allow that, i didnt ask permission, anyways he played this game for a long time, and taught me some basic concept about this game, like top, mid, bot, jg, he also taught me how to buy items, where to go, etc

The two guys that 'helping' me: @Skiwi, @Opti

Opti is fine, Skiwi is ... she acts like robot with pride and prejudice. I dont want to ever talk with her again in the future. Riot pls remove her from her office ty, put her somewhere else or have a talk with her. Next time i start live chat, i make it clear, I ABSOLUTELY DONT WANT TO SEE HER AGAIN, I DONT WANT TO SEE HER AGAIN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.

conclusion: so at the first place i dont even know what is intentionally feeding, and i dont see a problem of dying, and i didnt die on purpose. And then, before explaining the issue they just end the chat with 'good night' i think its just a polite term to calm people down so u wont need to fix and problem. I only played a few game, if not in great ardent of this game i woulda just thumb down it and never touch it again. Unfortunately i come back and registered a new account, i had greater fun on this new account but i am afraid, will u ban me again cuz i intentionally feeding every game? even with 53 kills?

  • 38 minutes ago Here is my match history on the curent account: NewhorizonPluto 8/17/3 garen 9/16/3 brand 5/27/5 garen 9/16/0 shyvana 4/20/5 xinzhao 44/17/6 xinzhao 17/25/7 xinzhao 13/22/2 xinzhao 12/17/9 xinzhao 14/19/4 xinzhao 27/27/4 xiznhao 33/18/4 xinzhao 22/21/8 xinzhao 19/20/2 xinzhao 21/28/1 xinzhao 17/29/5 xinzhao 21/18/3 udyr 24/13/6 xinzhao 53/20/7 xinzhao 11/25/7 xinzhao

i managed to find my old account match history: MaoZeDongSiXiang 6/9/19 ahri 1/29/4 riven; thats the one i got banned for

34 Comments

Chermorg8 votes

You died 3 times in bot lane (in the game you reference from your other account), once under the enemy turret, before 3 minutes into the game.

Sorry, I don't think it takes a genius to know that intentionally dying to the enemy repeatedly is not how to win the game.

NewHorizonPluto1 votes

my first pvp game? i do that in bot? and i am still doing it now?

Chermorg5 votes

It doesn’t take a genius to understand that the objective of League does not include “die as much as possible and keep charging the enemy under their turret”.

Just like how in basketball it doesn’t take a genius to know that you don’t pass the ball to the enemy team repeatedly on purpose.

NewHorizonPluto1 votes

by bot i mean beginner bots, not bot lane, just to clarify it. i usually go mid or roaming around

Onecimus3 votes

Glad to see the system is working as intended.

And people say inters don't get punished...

Silent Gravity2 votes

I checked out a couple matches on op.gg and seriously, it looks like you're trying to die as much as possible. It looks like dying to the enemy is your goal.

If you're just really bad at the game, I would suggest playing intro difficulty bots until you can go 10 games in a row without dying once. Then, advance to beginner bots, until you match the same feat of 10 games in a row without dying. Then, advanced bots. Again, make it a goal to go 10 in a row without dying.

Once that is complete, the next step is learning basic csing, that is, getting the last hit on the minions so that you earn gold. Once again, I'd suggest starting at beginner. Your goal is to get 3 cs (out of 6 [or 7 with a cannon]) per wave. Move to the next difficulty when you're confident in your csing and not dying.

NewHorizonPluto1 votes

cs is useless, killing em let me stronger way faster, i figured it out just recently. so i never cs, or try to hit the last hit. i played beginner bot for like 1 match, its too easy, even though i die i do kill a lot.

Fegone2 votes

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cs is useless, killing em let me stronger way faster, i figured it out just recently. so i never cs, or try to hit the last hit. i played beginner bot for like 1 match, its too easy, even though i die i do kill a lot.

LOL. that sentence shows you're an inting troll ;) punishment deserved imo

Azure Hamster5 votes

{quoted}

cs is useless, killing em let me stronger way faster, i figured it out just recently. so i never cs, or try to hit the last hit. i played beginner bot for like 1 match, its too easy, even though i die i do kill a lot.

Woa... you really do not understand LoL if you think cs is useless. 19 cs is worth one kill. Any ADC main (I'm one) will tell you cs is deathly important.

Also, if you need to die to get a kill, you're accomplishing nothing. That's just giving both teams gold. Learn how the game works, listen to experienced players. This is not some podunk game with 100 players where it's easy to find something the rest of the community missed. You're up against literally millions of players who have learned how this game works.

Caitlyn

NewHorizonPluto1 votes

i get one kill per minute so i think its enough

Silent Gravity1 votes

No.

Azure Hamster1 votes

{quoted}

i get one kill per minute so i think its enough

You don't get it.

Caitlyn

Dolyna1 votes

{quoted}

i get one kill per minute so i think its enough

Useless if you give the enemy team one kill per minute in exchange. And you don't win the game by getting the highest number of kills.

I looked up the damage you did to objectives in your last six games:

0 91 0 0 26 18

Those numbers should be in the THOUSANDS. The goal of the game is to take out the OBJECTIVES.

You can win the game_ without killing a single enemy_. All you have to do is destroy the enemy NEXUS. Destroy turrets and inhibitors along the way to open paths to the NEXUS.

When killing enemies, you need to do your best to avoid getting killed yourself.

NewHorizonPluto1 votes

but when i was in that account, i dont even know what is gold

Silent Gravity2 votes

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he also taught me how to buy items

Unfortunately, your own version of events includes the prior knowledge of gold.

NewHorizonPluto1 votes

thats a bit later than that after i use the other account, he start teaching me becuase he thought i am too suck

Hypochondria92 votes

Going by your scores you just charge at every enemy you see and die more often than you kill them. You will get reported and banned for that.

NewHorizonPluto1 votes

exactly what i am doing, ty for understanding, but why ban for that?

Silent Gravity2 votes

The only reason to do that is to purposefully make the game harder for your team. Doing things purposefully to make things harder for your team is bannable.

Fegone3 votes

{quoted}

exactly what i am doing, ty for understanding, but why ban for that?

Because it will not help your team. You're not accomplishing anything with your kills. You're not taking objectives, you just jump back into the enemy team, who gets more gold and becomes stronger, thus making it harder for your team mates to kill them.

NewHorizonPluto1 votes

Here is my match history on the curent account: NewhorizonPluto 8/17/3 garen 9/16/3 brand 5/27/5 garen 9/16/0 shyvana 4/20/5 xinzhao 44/17/6 xinzhao 17/25/7 xinzhao 13/22/2 xinzhao 12/17/9 xinzhao 14/19/4 xinzhao 27/27/4 xiznhao 33/18/4 xinzhao 22/21/8 xinzhao 19/20/2 xinzhao 21/28/1 xinzhao 17/29/5 xinzhao 21/18/3 udyr 24/13/6 xinzhao 53/20/7 xinzhao 11/25/7 xinzhao

i managed to find my old account match history: MaoZeDongSiXiang 6/9/19 ahri 1/29/4 riven; thats the one i got banned for

Fegone2 votes

{quoted}

Here is my match history on the curent account: NewhorizonPluto 8/17/3 garen 9/16/3 brand 5/27/5 garen 9/16/0 shyvana 4/20/5 xinzhao 44/17/6 xinzhao 17/25/7 xinzhao 13/22/2 xinzhao 12/17/9 xinzhao 14/19/4 xinzhao 27/27/4 xiznhao 33/18/4 xinzhao 22/21/8 xinzhao 19/20/2 xinzhao 21/28/1 xinzhao 17/29/5 xinzhao 21/18/3 udyr 24/13/6 xinzhao 53/20/7 xinzhao 11/25/7 xinzhao

i managed to find my old account match history: MaoZeDongSiXiang 6/9/19 ahri 1/29/4 riven; thats the one i got banned for

That looks more like the K/D one should/would have in Quake or UT, than in LoL I wouldn't want to play with you either. You're not fit for this game if you don't drop that "i kill a lot but I also die a lot" attitude. Because here's the problem:

When you die solo, you not only give them a kill, most likely you also give them assists. Which gives their team more gold in total than you make for your team.

Also, based on your previous games, I can assume that most enemy player can put the gold better to use than you can. In other words, if you get 10 kills, and some enemy gets 10 kills, chances are, he is going to carry their team, and you are not.

Unless you're Diamond+, and playing on a smurf, this strategy won't work in LoL. Drop it or get banned.

NewHorizonPluto1 votes

but i do blow em up alot, like i got 53 kills as xinzhao, i am carrying my team

Silent Gravity6 votes

If you get 53 kills, that very specifically means that you're NOT carrying your team.

If you were carrying, the game would have ended long before you could get that many.

Kills are meaningless.

Turrets are important. Inhibitors are important. The enemy nexus is important.

Fegone1 votes

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but i do blow em up alot, like i got 53 kills as xinzhao, i am carrying my team

You know, one person with 53 kills who accomplishes nothing with that gold, does not help the team to win. 5 team members with 10 kills each (instead of 50 on one), will win the game. They will overpower your team in teamfights, they will take objectives, dragon, baron, towers, etc. while you're running around inting again and again.

NewHorizonPluto1 votes

what is quake, and ut? if its more fun then i ll play that game instead

Fegone2 votes

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what is quake, and ut? if its more fun then i ll play that game instead

Quake , just like UT (Unreal Tournament), are deathmatch first person shooters, known for jumping into the battle, not caring if you die because you respawn within a second usually, whilst trying to get as many frags (kills) as possible.

https://quake.bethesda.net/en/landing

Different game type, but imho just as fun.

NewHorizonPluto1 votes

i woulda like to try that lol

Azure Hamster1 votes

{quoted}

Quake , just like UT (Unreal Tournament), are deathmatch first person shooters, known for jumping into the battle, not caring if you die because you respawn within a second usually, whilst trying to get as many frags (kills) as possible.

https://quake.bethesda.net/en/landing

Different game type, but imho just as fun.

Though the quakes are better suited to CTF, as movement is more complex. You can't do this kind of grenade/rocket jump in UT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6rqumD-9Hk

UT is more fun for deathmatch since the weapons are more complex (they have alt-fire modes, sometimes more than one).

Caitlyn

NewHorizonPluto2 votes

wow its impressive, but seems too hard, i cant even aim shot guns in team fortress 2

Cynikul1 votes

You have too much time, my friend. Stop wasting others, use yours a little more wisely and don't troll.

NewHorizonPluto1 votes

i need an explanation

HonestJohnTheCon1 votes

Based on what I've seen, you are either: A. A troll B. An intentional feeder C. The bona fide Leeroy Jenkins of League of Legends

The first two are bannable, and while the third is not bannable in most cases, it won't make you popular with your teammates. I recommend you pick a different strategy, as with that many deaths your teammates can easily report you for intentional feeding (even if that wasn't your intention) and you could be seen by the ban system as an inter.

Of course, this advice won't stop you if you are a troll or an inter, so this advice could just be meaningless. But I suggest you take it anyways.

NewHorizonPluto1 votes

so its the system that needs to change. as you said, i am prob belong to 3rd category. if i am not an inter, then they shouldnt ban me. but they dont want to listen to my explanation, i even doubted that the live chat responser is robot, but i still hold believe that they are human, just trained by riot to talk in robotic ways.

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