Suffering because others are toxic.

IXI C00LGUY IXI··2 votes·770 views

First of all i know i wont get unbanned because they dont do it as a "reminder" (a reminder that you get banned for getting reported by premade players in normals.)

Now i want to talk about how i was perma banned in the first place. was playing a game with friend it was a ful 5 man in normals we are happing some fun talking trying strange team comps we werent winning (thats what happens when you choose silly champion comps =p) around 20mins in a enemy team member starts spamming "ez" inchat for atleast 3 mins straight and we ignore it till he gets tired and then i say "lul. suckers" he proceeds to flame as toxic players do, i reply with "grow up and stop feeding heh =)" then that game ends i play another 2 or 3 games without a hitch friendly enemyteam we all have fun for all the games then i finish the last game and i get a 14 day ban for calling someone a sucker and to tell them to grow up.... this happend because they were a 5man also and all reported for toxic behaviour and i guess greifing because i did terrible in the first game as stated we where having fun a sa 5man in normals (NOTHING SERIOUS) i feel like that was complete and utter ratts ass because the other player on the enemys team was inceadily toxic and my friends say they were not given any punishment from their knowlege. (thats from their 'knowledge' they were probably punished) to that i say no they were not punish i can see they are still playing on their account with no restriction. i wait 14 days because i know that the riot staff dont care to look into something unless your a well known player (sad really)

14 days later (today) i get on play 1 game it goes great have fun team and enemy team are super friendly i win the game. queue for game 2, teammates are clearly premade.... i know i should dodge they are already being rude in champ select. i decide to stay because im in a good mood, game starts one teammates says "im new to this champ" i reply with "thats fine" another teammates comments "then why did you pick it idiot" i reply with "cause he wanted to lol" trying to be friendly so they dont ruin the game for me. i say "not like it matters =)" implying its a normals game they should just enjoy and have fun, we finish helping jungler run to botlane. teammate is playing really agro so i help out he flames me saying i should have exhaused early, when it wouldnt have made a differnce when we were getting ganked by the enemy jungler he would have died either way so hes complaing that he got first blood and he died and thats some how my fault... anyways he goes on flaming me i say lol "wouldnt have changed anything" he flames some more i reply "lol" in efforts to calm him down to just play. he makes jokes to his friend saying "must be first time champ" refering to me. i make a joke (thinking its just friendly) "i mean looks like your blind" he flames some more after dying a 2nd time after being too agro expecting me to die with him or so something when he knows i have abilitys on cooldown. "so i say blaming me for you dying?" because at this point he was spam pining and not directing his anger at me but more just saying things so i questioned him on it and he flames me i say "lul" because im kinda understanding they are not here to be friendly. =(

i begin to not play agro because my adc is clearly just trying to upset me and play to greif so i he end up dying because of his igronance knowing i wont be playing agressive, this is where his friend joins in being rude to me because thats all premade normal players seem to do =/ says im being afk when im just not playing as agressive as my adc is. he makes fun of me for spelling "here" like "herte" so i make jokes about his mindset of me being afk. he goes on to flame and ping spam me along with the first guy i mute thier pings (sorted now we can play) the second guy starts saying i dont even know how to play my champ (while saying this his other friend on top is getting ganked by midlane (the second guy) so i say "this ekko doesnt even know hwo to ss lol" he then proceeds to feed the midlaner a few times purposly running into his tower, so i just mention it to the enemy team that hes trolling, my teammates then say in all chat to repot me for afking and trolling when i was never afk and im not trolling just not running into the enemyteam blindlessly like my adc is.......

this is the only thing that realisticly should be "punished for" i play abit and after maybe 10mins my teammates are still being rude so i just mess with them abit and point out their misplays like how they used their abilitys and their player level compared to their playstyle. (childish but hardly something worth a perma ban.)

i say im going to screenshot the game, so i could make a report on the website (was going to do this after the game) banned and cant acsess that now... shockingly floored system.

so because they 4+ report me when i just come back i get permaban because of their rude and greifing behaviour. there is no way i should have even been muted for what i said nevermind permabanned 4strike system or what ever its called is not justifiable. its not even like its word trigger that did it because i say this kind of stuff all the time when playing on a main account in ranked matches and people can see its just for fun and we arent saying it as a offensive gesture and i havent been banned on my main account or muted in 4 years of playing casualy.

its whatever i guess ill just play my main and mess around on a new account when i get board and hope i dont get toxic premades while leveling so it doesnt get the same punishments as this account.

the problem with giving the reason for what you did wrong is that they dont show what the other player did ("other players behaviour shouldnt justifiy your own behaviour." yeah ok...) so im givien what i said but im not given what other said nor am i given the ability to even retirve my game to prove my innocence, all i have is my word.... and lets be honest im postly on a "behavioural" board so chances are noone would even take this seriously.

Game 1 IXI C00LGUY IXI: hi IXI C00LGUY IXI: thats fine IXI C00LGUY IXI: cause he wanted to lol IXI C00LGUY IXI: not like it matters =) IXI C00LGUY IXI: lol wouldnt have changed anything IXI C00LGUY IXI: lol IXI C00LGUY IXI: ... IXI C00LGUY IXI: i mean looks like your blind IXI C00LGUY IXI: blaming me for you dying? IXI C00LGUY IXI: lul. IXI C00LGUY IXI: first time sona btw IXI C00LGUY IXI: draven being toxic because he things he pro IXI C00LGUY IXI: lol IXI C00LGUY IXI: so i wont be agro and hes crying IXI C00LGUY IXI: ekko? IXI C00LGUY IXI: no IXI C00LGUY IXI: im herte IXI C00LGUY IXI: clearly on my keyboard IXI C00LGUY IXI: are you blind? IXI C00LGUY IXI: ? IXI C00LGUY IXI: afk IXI C00LGUY IXI: huehue IXI C00LGUY IXI: this ekko doesnt even know how to ss lol IXI C00LGUY IXI: report ekko trolling IXI C00LGUY IXI: lol yeah IXI C00LGUY IXI: cute kid IXI C00LGUY IXI: report me i did nothing wrong IXI C00LGUY IXI: ill just screenshot what you said in team chat lol. IXI C00LGUY IXI: nice ulti IXI C00LGUY IXI: plat 5 IXI C00LGUY IXI: and dont even know how to playu IXI C00LGUY IXI: would have thought at plat you would know how to play without feeding draven IXI C00LGUY IXI: troll? im not the one feeding and being toxic in team chat.... IXI C00LGUY IXI: afk ? not playing? IXI C00LGUY IXI: how would i get 2 assists and 1 kill afking and not playing? IXI C00LGUY IXI: im gathering your premade with draven cause your both being hostile to me and not the 0/8 toplaner... IXI C00LGUY IXI: not like it matters lol IXI C00LGUY IXI: lol thats cute IXI C00LGUY IXI: you actually are premade IXI C00LGUY IXI: =p IXI C00LGUY IXI: must be first time draven IXI C00LGUY IXI: mang? IXI C00LGUY IXI: dont cry becasue your premade man IXI C00LGUY IXI: i dont see why you both had to be toxic IXI C00LGUY IXI: we had a easy win... IXI C00LGUY IXI: i think ekko and draven are just greifing they where premade and toxic =/ IXI C00LGUY IXI: lol. IXI C00LGUY IXI: no point playing now that you have fed

41 Comments

Rand0mH3r0X5 votes

You have a negative attitude.

You worked your way up to a 14 Day Ban, so, yeah, quit it.

köibito1 votes

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You have a negative attitude.

You worked your way up to a 14 Day Ban, so, yeah, quit it.

You definitely know me as a person enough to say that. Good on ya, bud.

Rand0mH3r0X5 votes

I don't know you. The chat has condescending and superiority complex tones. My observation is verified by the punishment.

köibito2 votes

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Rand0mH3r0X3 votes

If it isn't valuable enough for a team chat, consider not typing it.

köibito1 votes

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Rand0mH3r0X3 votes

You're not very self aware at all.

Karunamon4 votes

What a surprise - someone who can't control themselves resorts to the "SJW" insult.

köibito1 votes

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LiL Bunnie FuFuu1 votes

lol

HalcyonDweller5 votes

Are you here to convince others that you are respectable and correct, or are you here to act superior and treat people like garbage beneath your feet? So far you've only accomplished the latter, to the detriment of the former.

Karunamon3 votes

i get a 14 day ban for calling someone a sucker and to tell them to grow up....

No you didn't. You only get 14 day bans in the following circumstances:

  • You are coming off of a 25 game chat restriction (i.e. being tapped on the shoulder twice and told that your behavior is inappropriate didn't work)
  • You used hate/suicide encouraging speech (this process is automatic)
  • A Rioter manually banned you (exceptionally rare, but this does happen)

That said, something I think you and many others tend to miss is that it's partially about attitude, not entirely the words being used.

IXI C00LGUY IXI: draven being toxic because he things he pro IXI C00LGUY IXI: are you blind? IXI C00LGUY IXI: report ekko trolling IXI C00LGUY IXI: would have thought at plat you would know how to play without feeding draven IXI C00LGUY IXI: troll? im not the one feeding and being toxic in team chat.... IXI C00LGUY IXI: i dont see why you both had to be toxic IXI C00LGUY IXI: i think ekko and draven are just greifing they where premade and toxic =/ IXI C00LGUY IXI: no point playing now that you have fed

Calling your teammates toxic and calling for reports? Constant shitting on your team's performance? That's always been punishment worthy. The other thing to keep in mind is that since you were coming off of a 14 day ban, the next punishment for any reason no matter how small is a perma. It's a tier system, and you were at the top tier and got kicked off.

so because they 4+ report me

No. Number of reports literally does not matter. Any reporting, no matter how large or small the numbers, flags the game to get looked at. If literally every other player in the game reported you, and you did nothing wrong, nothing would have happened.

its whatever i guess ill just play my main and mess around on a new account when i get board and hope i dont get toxic premades while leveling so it doesnt get the same punishments as this account.

If you don't want to get your other account flattened, then stop calling for reports, stop "messing with" your team, stop bandying about insults like "toxic", and stop putting words in the chat box unless they're helping your team win. If you're possessed of an exceptionally short fuse and find this hard to do, tools exist where you can disable your own chat.

IXI C00LGUY IXI2 votes

That said, something I think you and many others tend to miss is that it's partially about attitude, not entirely the words being used.

my attitude is always something i look at, my attitude was perfectly fine i was in a happy state playing with friend. i did get banned for something i said, this being what i already spoke about. thanks for that i guess.....

Calling your teammates toxic and calling for reports? Constant shitting on your team's performance? That's always been punishment worthy. The other thing to keep in mind is that since you were coming off of a 14 day ban, the next punishment for any reason no matter how small is a perma. It's a tier system, and you were at the top tier and got kicked off.

i agreed i called them toxic? i called for a report as "child mimicking" to show them how childish they are not to actually do it. getting punish for repetition of someone is ridiculous. not really constantly shiting on their preformance i did it twice to 1 of them. but i guess 1 time is too much for a person in a suit to bitch. yeah its the teir system that is a failure and keeps getting players who are worthy of keeping their accounts banned for immature players.

No. Number of reports literally does not matter. Any reporting, no matter how large or small the numbers, flags the game to get looked at. If literally every other player in the game reported you, and you did nothing wrong, nothing would have happened.

nothing would have happend? explain my 14 day ban. i called them a sucker. lmao the ammount might not matter it will still get caught yeah, but there must be a reason for them making it punishable for calling reports... only reasonable reason for this is that more bans spark more attention. im happy to see a better reason.

If you don't want to get your other account flattened, then stop calling for reports, stop "messing with" your team, stop bandying about insults like "toxic", and stop putting words in the chat box unless they're helping your team win. If you're possessed of an exceptionally short fuse and find this hard to do, tools exist where you can disable your own chat.

my other account wont get "falttened" unless i get toxic players in my game that are premade. stop calling reports? you are acting like i do it every game thats the first time ive ever done it lmao. not only that but it was a mimick and theres no rule on that so yeah fun broken system. i have no reason to just type if it benefits my team theres no rule on that so i dont see why that suggestion is mentioned at all. disabling chat wont stop me from getting reported for a 4 man for "playing afk" when in reality im just not being agressive like my teammates and then i climb the ladder of warnings till a ban again for doing nothing but playing passive. and i get checked for trolling. i have never been frustated in a game and been suspended for it im always happy enjoying the game win or loss unless i have lag problems then i get upset.

on the topic of lag thats where 1 of my 25 restrictions came in my net was being bad i get dc'd i get leaver busted and then have punishment because they are too lazy to have a manual leaver buster. feelsgood being the underdog...

Karunamon4 votes

i called for a report as "child mimicking" to show them how childish they are not to actually do it.

Doesn't matter. You're responsible for your own chat.

explain my 14 day ban. i called them a sucker

I find that incredibly difficult to believe. if everyone who showed up at these boards claiming they did nothing wrong to get banned were telling the truth, there'd never be any bans ever. If you still have the ban email though, there's a chat log attached. Post it.

not only that but it was a mimick and theres no rule on that

Mimicking toxicity is still posting toxicity. You are responsible for your own chat, regardless of what the other guy is doing.

disabling chat wont stop me from getting reported for a 4 man for "playing afk"

Getting reported by a 4 man for "playing afk" accomplishes nothing if you weren't actually AFK. Besides that, AFK is handled by the Leaverbuster system and doesn't result in bans.

on the topic of lag thats where 1 of my 25 restrictions came in my net was being bad i get dc'd i get leaver busted and then have punishment because they are too lazy to have a manual leaver buster. feelsgood being the underdog...

Do you have any idea how many people play this game? 27 million players per day. Nothing short of an army of staff would be able to manually review every game.

On top of all that, there's no such thing as manually reviewing a disconnect. I don't know how familiar you are with networking, but when a remote system disconnects from you, there's no way to tell why - all you know is that the other side of the connection isn't there anymore. Someone could pull the cable out of their modem and nobody would be able to tell the difference from the ISP going out to lunch.

The fairest, most foolproof, least game-able thing to do is to hold players responsible for their own connection and punish all disconnects equally. At the end of the day, it's not fair to inflict your bad connection on 9 other people.

wyvern0119762 votes

To be fair, you cant read "attitude". You can read what is written, but projecting inflection or as you say "attitude" is actually highly subjective and inaccurate. Lots of people especially the special snow flake kids cant even be given advice or asked to help because they perceive "attitude" where their is none.

So they need to stick to actual written language. You can police that. You cant police my thoughts, and that goes double if there is a singe abbreviation or misspelling.

Xurreal1 votes

It is really easy to mistaken the attitude without hearing a voice attached to the words written in chat.

Thats why people do Sarcasmmessages /sarcasm so that you know the message is meant to be read in a sarcastic tone.

But you shouldn't be talking this much directly to your teammates about what you do anyway. It is kind of.. whats the word?

Harassment.

TBH though...

"Well it looks like you're blind"

köibito1 votes

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No you didn't. You only get 14 day bans in the following circumstances:

  • You are coming off of a 25 game chat restriction (i.e. being tapped on the shoulder twice and told that your behavior is inappropriate didn't work)
  • You used hate/suicide encouraging speech (this process is automatic)
  • A Rioter manually banned you (exceptionally rare, but this does happen)

That said, something I think you and many others tend to miss is that it's partially about attitude, not entirely the words being used. IXI C00LGUY IXI: are you blind? IXI C00LGUY IXI: report ekko trolling IXI C00LGUY IXI: would have thought at plat you would know how to play without feeding draven IXI C00LGUY IXI: troll? im not the one feeding and being toxic in team chat.... IXI C00LGUY IXI: i dont see why you both had to be toxic IXI C00LGUY IXI: i think ekko and draven are just greifing they where premade and toxic =/ IXI C00LGUY IXI: no point playing now that you have fed

Calling your teammates toxic and calling for reports? Constant shitting on your team's performance? That's always been punishment worthy. The other thing to keep in mind is that since you were coming off of a 14 day ban, the next punishment for any reason no matter how small is a perma. It's a tier system, and you were at the top tier and got kicked off.

No. Number of reports literally does not matter. Any reporting, no matter how large or small the numbers, flags the game to get looked at. If literally every other player in the game reported you, and you did nothing wrong, nothing would have happened.

If you don't want to get your other account flattened, then stop calling for reports, stop "messing with" your team, stop bandying about insults like "toxic", and stop putting words in the chat box unless they're helping your team win. If you're possessed of an exceptionally short fuse and find this hard to do, tools exist where you can disable your own chat.

People don't get chat restrictions anymore. I'm sick of all these people barely coming into season 7 thinking they know anything.

Karunamon2 votes

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People don't get chat restrictions anymore.

Source?

köibito1 votes

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Source?

Every person getting banned for showing a little bit of frustration rather than getting a chat restriction lmfao.

Karunamon3 votes

Sounds like a lot of people getting instabans for telling people to kill themselves.

Not seeing a problem here tbh

köibito1 votes

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Karunamon2 votes

He wouldn't have gotten banned if he'd have simply muted the offender rather than counterflaming. I don't want people like the OP in my games where they can't exercise any self control and put the rest of my team on tilt.

Zero sympathy.

IXI C00LGUY IXI1 votes

self control? "i don't want people like op in my games" i never counterflamed nor did i lose self control.

sorry im not a stuckup suit like yourself i wouldnt want a snoby selfindulged player in my game either.

Zero Intelligence.

IXI C00LGUY IXI1 votes

my chat log shows nothing of the sort but your butt clenching because you browse the forums to flintch when you see something you believe you know more on when the truth is you lack the simple knowledge on the rules

Karunamon1 votes

I quoted the part of your chat that got you in trouble. Take my advice, or don't - you're the one who's going to suffer for it in the end.

ShaftyMegee1 votes

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No, people like the guy in this post getting banned. Jesus you're all simple minded children....

Not that you are a kid, but whenever someone calls randoms children it makes me question your age xD.

köibito1 votes

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Not that you are a kid, but whenever someone calls randoms children it makes me question your age xD.

Thirty seven years of age, partner. What these people aren't understanding is that I'm not saying what I did was right, I'm saying there is such thing as baiting someone into being toxic and trolling should be banned. Chat offenses should not be bannable.

ShaftyMegee1 votes

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Thirty seven years of age, partner. What these people aren't understanding is that I'm not saying what I did was right, I'm saying there is such thing as baiting someone into being toxic and trolling should be banned. Chat offenses should not be bannable.

I actually agree with you on the most part, and I wasn't calling you a kid I figured you were at least 20+ cus of how you write.

I lost faith in riots choice making punishment wise when I saw "Hate Speech" as a bannable offense. What the hell is hatespeech? It can mean anything anyone wants it to mean... its such bullshit.

köibito1 votes

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I actually agree with you on the most part, and I wasn't calling you a kid I figured you were at least 20+ cus of how you write.

I lost faith in riots choice making punishment wise when I saw "Hate Speech" as a bannable offense. What the hell is hatespeech? It can mean anything anyone wants it to mean... its such bullshit.

I just think I should have gotten a chat restriction rather than a permament ban. Really unfair.

ShaftyMegee1 votes

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I just think I should have gotten a chat restriction rather than a permament ban. Really unfair.

Riot doesn't care about whats fair, they just want people to give them money and shut up.

Xurreal2 votes

Next time just don't choose to talk to them. If you didn't talk to the enemy team, you wouldn't have been banned.

If only you didn't talk to them, your stuff swept under the rug wouldn't have come up.

ModPrandine2 votes

Hey all, I'm chiming in with a warning to knock it off with the insults and fighting. If you want to have a discussion then do so without attacking others. If this can't be done then this thread will be locked. You've been warned.

P.S. Dismissing other peoples opinion purely based on what modes they play is a very poor way to go about getting any actual help and feedback.

Xion The XIV1 votes

On my main I always try to say positive stuff. My caitlyn is Garbage complete waste of a person on my team. I have to smile and praise them for doing ok. 0/4 still having to be nice. A Renekton threatening to quit every 2 minutes because he got his ass kicked in lane. Sadly with games like this you just need to pretend you are happy. People who think they are being praised for not dying think they are doing good.

Karunamon1 votes

I have to smile and praise them for doing ok. 0/4 still having to be nice. A Renekton threatening to quit every 2 minutes because he got his ass kicked in lane. Sadly with games like this you just need to pretend you are happy.

/mute all

Saying nothing is also an option. Berating people for their performance, however, is not, and besides that doesn't work.

IXI C00LGUY IXI1 votes

blows my mind you think such a way " Berating people for their performance, however, is not" well it is an option, you can see this in many high elo streamers chats when theys stream they get no punishments. its a valid option that only punishes the shadows and only effects those who are so uptight they cant take someone saying something in teamchat unless its giving game info when thats only one aspect of the chat.

not really much reason even bothering with you because your soo singleminded and fixed on a system that is flawless when in realisation its flawed to hell

EMPURE1 votes

I recently came off of a 14 day suspension for being toxic, here's my opinion.

You're being toxic and you don't seem to even realize it, or even want to realize it. Even in this thread you're being toxic and insulting other's based on what game mode they play, which has no matter to you and I'm not sure why it has any relevancy to what they're saying to you (which is in fact good advice and is quite correct).

The first couple of days of my suspension I was angry and spiteful, just like you seem to be right now. After this time I started to reflect on myself and how I was treating others, as well as the "vibe" I was giving off to my teammates and opponents. Slight banter is expected within a competitive game like this, but being rude and insulting is another and I agree that there should be no room for it. Try looking at your life in general and how things are going, you might see a similarity as to how you're acting in game, I sure noticed during my suspension.

Good luck to you man, and I hope you understand the affects of your actions and attitude. It makes a difference and could even make the difference between making someones day bad, or completely changing the way their day is going in a positive way. The choice is yours and yours only.

Ps. Don't forget about /mute all :)

ModUlanopo1 votes

Overall, the chat is really negative. Most of it looks like harassment.

Communication, coordination and morale management are all valuable skills to have. I think you should focus on them in your chat.

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