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Im Highly Dissapointed in the Tribunal system

Dubs N Wubs··1 votes·919 views

HI everyone , my name is Jeremy Ive been playing this game since season 2 and ive spent roughly around 500$ into this game , its now 2 days before my birthday and guess what i see " Your account is permanently suspended" Why? because some guy who was diamond thought he could do what he wants and the enemy vayne was just flat out toxic , they both reported me for no real reason , Im super super disappointed with you riot games , why have an automatic system that can ban you if just the right amount of players feel like reporting you , I 110% regret ever giving you guys a damn cent of my money What the hell riot , im not one to come onto the forums and complain but im tired of these trolls getting away with what ever they feel like it just because you guys dont give a damn about actually reading through the reports, all i gotta say is in all my life of gaming i've NEVER seen such a toxic community such as this one , you guys really need to get on this because your game isnt even fun anymore , its just getting out of hand that this kind of crap goes on and you guys dont care about your community , all you care about is making money off over priced skins and the LCS , all i gotta say is i Hate you Riot games , Ill never reccomend this game to anyone for as long as i am a gamer. Enjoy your rot infested program you call a "Game"

17 Comments

Daklore2 votes

Random reports, if they are not based in fact, will realistically not harm your account in any way. Let us also factor in that it takes -multiple- warnings and a couple temporary bans before you get a permanent ban in most cases. If you were in danger of a permaban, you would have seen it coming with a couple warnings, then a short temp ban, then a longer temp ban--which would have been your final chance(I believe they even clarify this? I've never received a punishment before).

Thusly, if you were indeed permanently banned, you had to forsee it coming. It was not just something that randomly happened because "someone in diamond" reported you one time. It's because you were being consistently and repeatedly reported for your actions in-game.

Or, y'know... your account might have been detected using some form of hack and it was just a delayed ban wave that nailed you. Either way, complaining to boards over your ban isn't going to get you anywhere. You should always start with player support on these matters, and if you do bring it to the boards, back it up with the link to your reform card or whatever it's called.

Zielmann2 votes

Yeah, I'd be curious to know what the wording of the ban was, because it might not have been handed out by the Instant Feedback system. If not, then there's some other reason for the ban and a ticket to support could get you more details on what's going on. If it was from the Instant Feedback system, then you've either had several punishments leading up to this and haven't fixed your behavior, or else your behavior in just a game or two was so severe that it jumped you all the way to a permanent ban (we could guess whether or not this was the case if you provide us with the chat logs you were given with the ban notice)

Dubs N Wubs1 votes

Well after the game was finished , i got reported right , i saw nothing come up but then i logged out , had a ciggarette for about 5 minutes and logged back on to see that my account was gone... its so god damn unfair , i just want riot to see that there is 2 sides to every story , but only seeing my chat logs makes it look like i was an asshole , but am i really an asshole for defending myself? Going through school as a kid , i was that fat kid who go relentlessly picked on , so i have ZERO tolerance for that kind of thing , even if its over a video game...item 3070 item 3070 item 3070

Zielmann1 votes

Okay, so if you got chat logs it was definitely the Instant Feedback system and not something else (that was my main curiosity).

only seeing my chat logs makes it look like i was an asshole , but am i really an asshole for defending myself?

This is a pretty common theme here. Self defense is okay, counter-aggression is not. The vast majority who claim 'self-defense' here, in reality, are doing the latter. All that does is make things between you and the other player spiral out of control. You're probably both too focused on jumping at each other to actually play the game, and your teammates by that point are sick and tired of hearing from the both of you.

I understand the situation you had in school, and that sucks. But the situation is very different. At school, you encounter the same people bullying you day after day, and there is no way to get away from them. You can report them to a teacher or other authority at school, but it'll always seem like they just get a slap on the wrist and then they're right back there in your face again.

In League, you can use /mute to shut these people up for the rest of the game once they start to cause problems. You don't have to sit there and take crap from them all game. After the game, you can report them for what they did. And you'll probably never encounter that person again (and probably wouldn't realize it if you did).

Dubs N Wubs1 votes

Its funny because the diamond player was in my game once than like 30 minutes later i got him again , he reported me both times

Vladimeow1 votes

but the tribunal has been down for years? Amumu

Kei1431 votes

Random reports against you don't do anything to you unless you did something wrong.

logs or it didn't happen.

Dubs N Wubs1 votes

Man the chat logs that i have access to dont show what the other players were saying , so yeah i defenitly looks like im a toxic douche , but if i did post it you can see that im just defending myself from being called "Bad" over and over again , yeah i didnt have the greatest game but damn dude why should anyone have to put up with that shit

Kei1432 votes

them being a douche is them being a douche. It doesn't mean you have to become a douche to "defend" yourself.

you don't have to put up with their stuff either. If you can't ignore what they say, then you can always mute them.

They've already made up their mind that you are bad, saying anything to them doesn't suddenly make you better. In fact, that is just fuel for a flame war, so just focus on your own play.

When I have a bad game, and people call me names, I just say "right" and don't say anything back. I don't mute them as I sometimes get a good chuckle out of their flame and it gives me the sure evidence of what I'm reporting them for. I also don't say "reported", as that just starts flame wars most the time.

You are responsible for your own speech. Thats why the system only shows your speech. If they flame you, if you have self control, you don't have to flame them back.

They can report you for intentional feeding all they want, it won't do anything to you unless you were really intentional feeding.

yeulx1 votes

Eh tbh the trubunal system is down on the players end to vote i think it was just changed to an automated system and then for the super serious reports that are ban worthy riot looks at them

nerak231 votes

all i gotta say is in all my life of gaming i've NEVER seen such a toxic community such as this one

Eh? it appears your punishment says your part of the problem and not the solution !

Why?

You already told us, Toxic actions!

Just because you spend $ on a free game doesn't give you a free ride.

Sorry, it had to happen for your B-day :(

Dubs N Wubs1 votes

I've been gaming for as long as i can remember , i thought the World of Warcraft community was toxic , any time anyone has ever asked me if they should play league or what is the game like i tell them simply to not play it JUST based off the community , most players ive run into are just mean... i dont get it , why does everyone have to try and be a keyboard warrior, they think that just because i talk in all chat that means im mad at that certain game.... Ive reported many people over the years and only once have i gotten the message saying that the player i reported was punished

ModPrandine1 votes

Post your Reform Card or you'll get no help on the issue. Right now it just sounds like you're mad that you got caught again behaving poorly and are making up excuses to try to justify your own poor behavior (spoiler alert: you can't).

Dubs N Wubs1 votes

Look i would post the chat log , but the problem is , it doesnt show what the other people were saying , only me , and from the ONLY my chat , yeah it looks like im toxic , but ill be damned if some guy sits there and called me "Bad" over and over again and i do nothing about it.... Also the diamond player was making shit up , telling the people that i said that i was challenger and all that , yeah i dont think my ban is going anywhere but i just dont find it fair when its right in the game chat that im simply defending myself... if theres one thing i've noticed in this game its the no matter what mode you pick the trolls who just instalock and do what they want always win anyway... whats the damn point anymore , i'll post the chat log IF and only IF i can get my hands on the WHOLE thing , not just mine item 3070

SmokedAlmonds2 votes

It doesn't matter what other people said. Their behavior does not excuse your own. Retaliation is not allowed. If it looks toxic on its own without their chat, that is because it is. In comparison to the others chat it may look less toxic, and that might be true but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if someone else started it or was worse than you. Each person is judged for their part in the situation and everyone who crosses the line will have it count against them.

proud and bronze1 votes

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all i gotta say is in all my life of gaming ive NEVER seen such a toxic community such as this one , you guys really need to get on this because your game isnt even fun anymore ,

so they are trying to "get on this". that is why you got banned.

nerak231 votes

Man the chat logs that i have access to dont show what the other players were saying , so yeah i defenitly looks like im a toxic douche

Here is the thing though.

One I understand getting mad, I would be suspended yrs. ago if we had voice chat. But, there are things you can do to help yourself.

Two, as harsh as it seems You and You alone are responsible for your own chat. So, post them and maybe someone can help you.

Thing is: as bad as some logs I've read, I know that some people can actually help you understand what you did wrong, and help you not make the same mistake. But that is up to you.

I just want to say though, as toxic as anyone I'VE read...I have tried to help those who allow me and would be willing to at least try to help anyone ( yes you). I know your feeling overwhelmed , hurt and mad. Good Luck man, though I doubt I'll post anymore on this thread w/o logs unless you feel like Just talking. :)

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