Stupid Banning system

Akatsuki507·7/3/2017, 6:51:23 PM·3 votes·1,802 views

I would like to start off by saying that this ban system is the worst shit I've ever seen. In this game a %%%%%s actions literally speak louder then their words. You can't report someone for being a troll if they don't say anything toxic. And at the same time a %%%%% could be perfectly nice in chat but some bag of dick tips could report him and without any proof could get this %%%%% ban for doing nothing. For real riot fix your game. League of Legends is such a toxic community right now that it's barely fun to play anymore. Remember Dunkey. All he did was talk shit to a troll and you banned him, denying the delay for him to finish his ban. If someone's being a troll to a person who has put hours and hours of hard work into something they have the right to call that person dickhead or a %%%%bag. Fix your goddamn game riot. I'm always fearing when I get trolls in my game I'm going to get reported for no reason and get banned. This happens more than you realize

17 Comments

BlueThingamajig7/3/2017, 7:03:30 PM7 votes

If someone's being a troll to a person who has put hours and hours of hard work into something they have the right to call that person dickhead or a %%%%bag.

No. No, they don't. In fact, it's completely the opposite.

First: Riot doesn't care what other people are doing. You are responsible for what you do. You are NOT responsible for what other people do.

Second: Calling out trolls is counterproductive to your goals. This is because they are trolls. The first and second rules of the internet are there for a reason.

Third: Maybe, just maybe, they aren't trolling. And calling these underperformers out is just going to make it worse for everyone.

EndlessSorcerer7/3/2017, 6:55:45 PM5 votes

In this game a %%%%%s actions literally speak louder then their words.

And at the same time a %%%%% could be perfectly nice in chat but some bag of dick tips could report him and without any proof could get this %%%%% ban for doing nothing.

If someone's being a troll to a person who has put hours and hours of hard work into something they have the right to call that person dickhead or a %%%%bag.

It wouldn't be a surprise if you were banned for hate speech.

Zombiemaster7/3/2017, 7:26:28 PM2 votes

You can't report someone for being a troll if they don't say anything toxic

Yes you can, and people do actually get punished for being a troll. The downside to these punishments, though, is that it is often difficult to prove intent, meaning it can take a while before they actually receive punishments. I know this is quite unfortunate, however, when these players do get caught, they instantly receive a 14 day ban, with a permanent ban for a second offense.

And at the same time a %%%%% could be perfectly nice in chat but some bag of dick tips could report him and without any proof could get this %%%%% ban for doing nothing

If a player isn't trolling and they don't say anything punishable in chat, then any reports against them for that match will be thrown out as false reports and the player won't be punished. If for whatever reason they are punished for nothing, Riot has no problem lifting it provided it is indeed a false punishment.

Remember Dunkey. All he did was talk shit to a troll and you banned him

There's a difference between "talking shit" and being a flat out dick, and Dunkey was being the latter. I mean, he told someone they should be shot down and killed... OVER A VIDEO GAME. Now don't get me wrong, trolls are annoying and frustrating to deal with and they should absolutely be punished. However, there is absolutely no reason to tell someone that they should be killed, whether it's through suicide or by someone else killing them. That is absolutely unacceptable and should also be met with a punishment.

If someone's being a troll to a person who has put hours and hours of hard work into something they have the right to call that person dickhead or a %%%%bag

Sure, you absolutely have the right to do that, but you should know that Riot also has every right to dictate what kind of behavior is acceptable on their private servers, and they say that retaliating against toxic behavior with your own toxic behavior is not acceptable.

Putting that aside, though, have you ever heard of the saying "Don't feed the troll!" A troll only does what he does to get a reaction out of you. By reacting negatively and calling them a dickhead, idiot, moron, etc., you are simply giving them exactly what they want while also putting your account at risk of punishment. If you can learn to ignore the trolls and don't say anything to them, you are denying them this satisfaction.

A few more quotes that I believe also apply here:

"Never argue with an idiot. They will only lower you to their level and beat you with experience." "Never wrestle with a pig in the mud. You will both get dirty, but the pig likes it."

Kei1437/3/2017, 7:39:49 PM2 votes

Should Riot fix their ban system and have people examine players that have been reported

lets see .. you got reported, and got punished.

definitely working as intended.

ModPrandine7/3/2017, 8:55:20 PM2 votes

It always amazes me that people still claim that Dunkey did nothing wrong even though Lyte confirmed that he did.

What do you think about vgdunkey's ban?

It's really unfortunate. Many Rioters love Dunkey's content, and I've unloaded my share of "Not even close babyyyyy" jokes around the office; however, we really can't show favoritism to someone just because they are a pro or a known content creator. This isn't really a debate about whether trashtalking is OK or not OK in games; we've talked a lot in the past about how we're OK with players bantering with their friends but you should be careful when interacting with strangers who may not understand your intentions--especially if you're using hate speech or slurs. We have a zero tolerance policy against hate speech, racism, homophobia, and sexism and that policy stands whether you're a random player, a pro player, or a Youtube celebrity.

This also really wasn't a case about intentional feeders and whether it's OK to be toxic towards other toxic players--there wasn't even a Malphite in the game that got him banned and either way, retaliation just isn't OK because it makes the experience worse for everyone else in the game.

We know that players have been asking us to be more aggressive against intentional feeders for awhile, and it has taken us a bit longer than we'd like. We do consider gameplay toxicity just as serious as verbal toxicity, and are launching a new Intentional Feeder Detection system in 5.18 that can ban feeders within 15 minutes of matches. We're starting with conservative settings to make sure the system would not ban players for having the rare bad game, even if it was a 0-10 type of bad game but this is a great first step to aggressively tackling intentional feeders.

At the end of the day, this incident sucks for everyone. We respect that Dunkey hasn't posted his Reform Card, and I'm not going to post it either. Best wishes to him in the future.

YerroFever7/3/2017, 7:13:25 PM2 votes

Um, you know that they actually do manual reviews for punishments? Your file was most likely looked at by several people before you got banned.

KVbqbFsC8e7/3/2017, 6:56:44 PM1 votes

I wouldn't count on this being fixed any time soon. Ever since Riot moved to a completely automated system, chat is punished way more often than actual trolling/inting.

PraiseChrist11/29/2017, 1:10:57 AM1 votes

Man, I completely agree. I have over 7000 hours in League and the more I play the more toxic I get because the trolls are just absolutely fucking ridiculous. I am a nice guy and started this game with a positive attitude but now I've gotten banned on over four accounts for JUST CHAT ALONE. (I NEVER afk, NEVER feed, NEVER TROLL!!!!) I play seriously and try my hardest and I never disrespect a player just for being bad, but god forbid I TROLL THE TROLLS.. god FORBID I stand up for myself or the game I love. I've literally gotten banned for not leashing someone who was calling me a dickhead in lobby just cause of my name... (my name was PRAISECHRIST) what the fuck is wrong with this report system, it's complete garbage.

PraiseChrist11/29/2017, 3:50:35 AM1 votes

Also another retarded thing is that I played on my first three accounts over 800 games with zero reports, then the first time any aco%%%% got banned now ANY TIME I make a new account it gets insta muted on LITERALLY FIRST report. Coincidence? NO, THEY ARE OFLLOWING ME LITERALLY THIS IS RIDUCULOUS! LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE PLEASE?

YerroFever11/29/2017, 5:39:40 PM1 votes

Why are we revisiting this?

Xurreal11/29/2017, 5:54:48 PM1 votes

It's banning people who have a history of talking shit and trolling.

I don't see anything wrong with this. It mostly leaves people who don't do these things alone.

ModPrandine11/29/2017, 7:12:48 PM

To avoid further necroposting I'm going to lock this thread. Please make separate threads if you have something to discuss rather than bumping an old discussion that's already run its course.

-Prandine