Riot corruption

áléc·Jul 22, 2017·1 votes·609 views

Hey everyone, I'm here today to talk about how I feel Riot is so unfair in their banning system. I was banned for toxicity and yes, I was being toxic, but in the middle of the ban, they banned me for apparently Cheating with 3rd party programs. A) How could I cheat if I was banned and couldn't play? B) Before I got banned for being toxic, I didn't get a single warning for being toxic. And when I try to tell them that, they give me the same automated response every time. In the response it says they can't do a thing even thought they probably can. I also spent a fair amount of money on my account. In my opinion it seems as if riot only care about money and not for the players themselves.

9 Comments

ModThe DjinnJul 22, 20177 votes

To my knowledge, 3rd party program bans are sent out in waves, rather than immediately upon confirmation. It's entirely possible that something was detected as being amiss with your account several weeks ago, and the wave only recently happened during the time you were serving a behavioral ban.

Additionally, certain behaviors (specifically hate speech, intentional feeding, and encouragements to self-harm, but there are others) can earn an escalated punishment to an immediate 14-day ban even on an otherwise clean account. I'd imagine that, if you shared your logs, we would find a behavior that they have a zero-tolerance policy toward.

As for Riot's response, two things are at play here -- firstly, money spent doesn't have any bearing on punishments earned, as otherwise you have a pay-to-be-abusive system where players who spend more have more leniency on their behavioral punishments. That's not a good thing. Secondly, yes -- technically Riot can unban anyone, or change their policies at any time. They don't, because having and following a consistent set of rules without making exceptions is a good way to run a business -- it creates an expectation that the rules are the rules, rather than a set of guidelines to be argued back and forth.

ChermorgJul 22, 20172 votes

From my understanding of the waves, they're not only based on time but based on new programs that have been determined to not be in line with the terms of use. For example, OP could've used a certain program a long time ago, but it was only used by a few people back then so it flew under the radar. Now Riot's discovered its "signature" and confirmed it was and still is out of compliance, thus they instructed the automated system to issue bans to any account found to have used that program in the timeframe it was found to be out of compliance. This could reach back months even, considering Riot can't review every single new program every single second.

Further, a list of things that commonly seem okay but are in fact prohibited: voice/skin modifications (90% of the time), anything that enables resolutions/camera angles/viewpoints/maps/etc that are not provided by default in the client, anything that gives any kind of overlay/information in game that normally is not available through the client, etc.

Basically, if it provides timers, extra tools, last hit helpers, anything like that, and/or it modifies critical game files (including sound/visual packages, etc), then it's not allowed.

Demonwolf666Jul 22, 20172 votes

A) How could I cheat if I was banned and couldn't play?

Toxicity is banned automatically through the reports and an automated recognition tool. 3rd-party is detected by other means.

B) Before I got banned for being toxic, I didn't get a single warning for being toxic.

Depending on the severity of toxicity from your report. it can skip tiers. and thus land the 14/perma ban right away.

In the response it says they can't do a thing even thought they probably can.

they have a zero tolerance on most things. and perma banned accounts will not be opened again unless it's a false positive.

I also spent a fair amount of money on my account. In my opinion it seems as if riot only care about money and not for the players themselves.

I have paid a fair amount too. never received a warning. never received a ban. spending cash doesn't make one immune to the rules.

TheViper7911Jul 22, 20172 votes

Corruption? Need only common sense and the ability to read the tos.

GreatWhiteNorthJul 22, 20171 votes

What do you mean about never faced a warning or penalty?

RuFiotJul 22, 20171 votes

Why do you think they do it to you/players?

Kei143Jul 22, 20171 votes

They do care about the money, which is why they'll permaban the ones that are ruining the games for other people.

Your actions causes fustration for the other players that aren't toxic and also spend money. Those nice people end up leaving the game if they Riot didn't deal with people whom spoil the game. Getting rid of you guys (toxics and cheaters) means that Riot will get more money in the long run.

Your petty little amount of money is of no interest to Riot.

SecondAirbaneJul 22, 20171 votes

which is why i havent spend a single dollar on this account

my friends spent money on it for me apparently riot didnt want my money

Sonic AdventureJul 22, 20171 votes

Because they care about the players, they don't want them to have bad experiences or ruined games with toxic people. Corruption would be more like the opposite, if they didn't ban players because they spent a lot on their accounts.