Chat Ban/Reporting

Built to Tylt·Jan 9, 2017·1 votes·512 views

I love being penalized when I wasn't even the worst offending party. RIOT, I want retribution. I want to know the other people in that game that were reported got punished, too. TELL ME.

And I want a fucking email detailing why.

31 Comments

Elite4RunnerJan 9, 20173 votes

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I love being penalized when I wasn't even the worst offending party.

Don't be an offending party.

And do you think you are going to convince Riot that they are wrongfully banning you this way?

You're only proving that you ARE toxic.

Built to TyltJan 9, 20171 votes

Please, continue to talk as if you were there in my games and know exactly what went on, All Knowing One.

Deep Terror NamiJan 9, 20171 votes

He isn't wrong. The other player's behavior being worse does not excuse your own actions. Do not become a party to a toxic environment, just mute them and play the game.

Built to TyltJan 9, 20171 votes

I'm saying that what I did wasn't bannable. But there's no way to contest an automated system. It's rigged. See earlier comment on group queues.

Elite4RunnerJan 9, 20174 votes

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It's rigged.

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder101/9416101.jpg

Elite4RunnerJan 9, 20171 votes

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Please, continue to talk as if you were there in my games and know exactly what went on, All Knowing One.

I'm only commenting on what you said.

I don't care what you said or did in your game.

You said "I wasn't even the worst offending party"

Which means that you were one a part of the offending party.

That's like saying "Yeah officer, I was there one of the gang who robbed the bank, but wasn't the one pointing my gun at anyone."

Guess what, you're going to jail.

SarutobiJan 9, 20173 votes

Just because someone was worse doesn't excuse your behavior, and that's the issue here. Not what they said but you. If you reported them and they continue with that behavior they will be punished just like yourself!

Built to TyltJan 9, 20171 votes

You don't know my behavior.
The system is rigged against multiple-queued parties. A 3-4 man queue can fuck anyone over if they decide they don't like you, no matter what you didn't do wrong.

Deep Terror NamiJan 9, 20171 votes

The system is rigged against multiple-queued parties

How so? Premade reports do not stack up, and the system checks the reports for accuracy; if you did nothing wrong, they will all be false and tossed out no matter how many there were. If they are all harassing you, your reports will work just fine against each and every one of them; it only takes 1 report to flag their match for review.

You should have received a Reform Card in your client which provided 1-3 games of chat logs, if you were punished by the Instant Feedback System for chat offenses. I recommend providing that to us to facilitate the discussion.

Built to TyltJan 9, 20171 votes

There is nothing of the sort in the Notifications panel of the (New) Client. It did state how many games the punishment is to last, but nothing specific. And still no email. And reports from one game do stack up. I have seen it in action before, although this is the first offense against me. One game of any true offense does not normally count against a player. It usually takes several games of repeated behavior to start accumulating against players. 3 reports (group queue) is enough to activate instant reprisal.

Built to TyltJan 9, 20171 votes

Update, finally got the stupid shit from Riot. And yeah, it was the Trio queue that set it off. Funniest thing is it shows my chat (not toxic, but definitely upset and in response to them) but doesn't show their extremely negative and toxic flaming to everyone outside their little 'group'. So there you have it that group queues unfairly fuck over other people. Automated chat log scripts for the win. Typical bullshit. If I got it for this mild shit, that trio better have gotten 3x as much.

Deep Terror NamiJan 9, 20173 votes

A premade report happening to be the last straw doesn't mean they have more power, this was going to happen whether a solo player reported you or a premade. This was not the only game taken into account, you must have a history of consistent negative behavior.

Why not post your logs? The one sent to your email may have fewer games included than the one in the client Reform Card.

If you believe the system made an error you can talk to Player Support about it through a ticket.

Built to TyltJan 9, 20171 votes

It was 5 total reports throughout the night, with the other two listed games with only 4-6 'negative' (by a long stretch) lines between them. The trio game was the longest log, and 3 votes at once. But as Riot has previously stated in official posts, they don't give a fuck and will not remove any 'punishment', no matter if unfairly assigned.

As for posting logs with only one person's lines shown? Yes, of course. Let us show only a small part of the whole, because that's unbiased. And you'll only accuse me of being afraid to post it, but I don't need to validate this to anyone. That's a completely unrealistic way to go about understanding the toxic environment thrust upon others and then punish them for reacting to it, even as mild as it is.

Elite4RunnerJan 9, 20171 votes

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It was 5 total reports throughout the night,

You got 5 reports in 1 night? If that doesn't show consistent behavior ...

Whatever you said in those 4-6 lines was apparently negative enough to get you reported, and to happen over 5 games ..

And it is all about what YOU said. It doesn't matter what anyone else said.

Your behavior got you restricted, not theirs.

And you're right, you don't need to validate anything to any of us, but we are trying to either help you to understand why you were reported, and as a result suspended, or help to support you if you are able to show that the report/suspension is unjustified.

Built to TyltJan 9, 20171 votes

Sadly, all it takes for a report is someone crying and that's it. They dish it out all game but can't take it back and get butthurt. And considering the shear amount of games I played, 5 report (2-3 games) is nothing.

Deep Terror NamiJan 9, 20173 votes

You are never notified of how many reports you received or who did them, so I don't know why you keep bringing up specific numbers. You're just making guesses to support your claim.

Built to TyltJan 9, 20171 votes

Because I know exactly how many crybaby asshats were being toxic then complaining.

It's always the ones that dish and can't take.

Elite4RunnerJan 9, 20172 votes

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Because I know exactly how many crybaby asshats were being toxic then complaining.

It's always the ones that dish and can't take.

^ Clearly isn't toxic.

Plz Rito, you made a mistake with this one!

Built to TyltJan 9, 20171 votes

Right, because the possibility that someone upset with something broken couldn't possibly be a valid feeling.

And there's a distinction between swearing and being toxic. Swearing isn't at all toxic. Toxic is harassing and constantly barraging people with negative personal speech and even ping spam, constantly flaming for any perceived slight. I'm sure you never have crybabies in your games that lash out at both teams. Must be fucking amazing.

hshtagniemehrcduJan 9, 20171 votes

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Because I know exactly how many crybaby asshats were being toxic then complaining.

It's always the ones that dish and can't take.

I guess that'ts why you are on the boards complaining abou your ban?

Built to TyltJan 9, 20171 votes

I can take it fine, and do through most of the games. But the minute you hand their behavior back to them they cry and report you, never mind what they've done to their own teammates or on /all. I do not stand for people disrespecting others, whether they're on my team or not, and will speak up against it. The babies can't handle it and run to daddy Riot the minute someone calls out their bullshit behavior.

And the original post isn't complaining about the result, it simply requests pretty fucking reasonable things.

Elite4RunnerJan 9, 20171 votes

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I can take it fine, and do through most of the games. But the minute you hand their behavior back to them they cry and report you, never mind what they've done to their own teammates or on /all. I do not stand for people disrespecting others, whether they're on my team or not, and will speak up against it. The babies can't handle it and run to daddy Riot the minute someone calls out their bullshit behavior.

And the original post isn't complaining about the result, it simply requests pretty fucking reasonable things.

I can assure you of this, pretty much nobody who initially trolls or flames other players with the intention of getting a rise out of them has ever cried as a result of what that player said to them in response. Especially if they are doing so with friends. They don't care what you say back to them, that is the advantage they have over you. They are in control and you are not.

hshtagniemehrcduJan 10, 20171 votes

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I can take it fine, and do through most of the games. But the minute you hand their behavior back to them they cry and report you, never mind what they've done to their own teammates or on /all. I do not stand for people disrespecting others, whether they're on my team or not, and will speak up against it. The babies can't handle it and run to daddy Riot the minute someone calls out their bullshit behavior.

And the original post isn't complaining about the result, it simply requests pretty fucking reasonable things.

Dude, **you **are the disrespectful one. Sure, others might have been worse in this specific game (not considering all games.--> quantity, which the punishment system does), but you are a very disrespectful person as well. People clearly do not want to play with you. Dont try to present yourself as some noble guy, you aren't. You are just another toxic player who thinks he has the right to flame because someone else is doing it as well.

And now you come crying to the boards because you cannot stand the consequences of your actions.

Built to TyltJan 11, 20171 votes

People clearly do not want to play with you. Dont try to present yourself as some noble guy, you aren't. You are just another toxic player who thinks he has the right to flame because someone else is doing it as well.

Stop assuming you know me. I'm not toxic at all. This is the first time something has ever happened to me and it's because of a group queue. So it seems to me you're the toxic one amongst the two of us if you immediately start flaming through your comment on this topic with all your assumptions. But I see you're from EUW and I hear the environment over there is pretty terrible. No wonder you come on here to flame. I hear it's the norm on your server so you think it's okay to do it here.

hshtagniemehrcduJan 11, 20172 votes

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Stop assuming you know me. I'm not toxic at all.

Then post your chat logs. No one really cares about your explanations.

And btw. You are the guy banned for flaming, and as long as you refuse the post the reason why you got your restriction no one is going to believe you.

SarutobiJan 9, 20173 votes

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You don't know my behavior.

The system is rigged against multiple-queued parties. A 3-4 man queue can fuck anyone over if they decide they don't like you, no matter what you didn't do wrong.

True I don't know your behavior, but you really aren't helping your cause with the replies you have shown here on this post. If that is any indication of how you act in game then it's pretty clear why you were ban!

I'm not even going to comment on our wrong you are with your second point especially since someone else has answered it correctly.

You can believe all you want of how the system works and if it's rigged, but it kinda makes you look like a fool when you spoiler out BS especially when you show zero evidence to support your claim!

Built to TyltJan 9, 20171 votes

I'm not even going to comment on our wrong you are with your second point especially since someone else has answered it correctly.

You can believe all you want of how the system works and if it's rigged, but it kinda makes you look like a fool when you spoiler out BS especially when you show zero evidence to support your claim!

Multiple reports in a single game (group queue terrorism) do indeed affect instant results. Again, this is not the first or second or third time I have witnessed 'instant judgement'. You shouldn't be so quick to disregard the fact that Riot's system (anything by Riot) doesn't always work as stated or intended. We all know how perfect their work is... Next time you get a toxic teammate, maybe try to convince your team to actually all report them instead of running out of lobby and see how instantly that ban is handed down. Maybe then you'll be more open-minded about what I'm saying, because I'm not even going to comment on how passively-aggressive your assertion is.

And I'll say it for the final time that posting one side of a conversation is in no way supportive of the game's environment. I'm not going to post 1/4 of the story when the other 3/4ths of it instigated and shapes the situation.

Elite4RunnerJan 9, 20171 votes

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Again, this is not the first or second or third time I have witnessed 'instant judgement'.

All this means is that you are receiving a more accelerated punishment because you are exhibiting consistent behavior.

Stop being a toxic pud and you wont get banned.

Built to TyltJan 10, 20171 votes

Bro, I don't even care anymore. I know what my experience is and I stand by it. Later.

Elite4RunnerJan 9, 20171 votes

Maybe you should show us then.

Copy and paste your chat log here.

Built to TyltJan 9, 20171 votes

As for posting logs with only one person's lines shown? That's a completely unrealistic way to go about understanding the toxic environment thrust upon others and then punish them for reacting to it, even as mild as it is.