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I'm so done with Riot's player punishment system.

FalthyFranch·8/30/2016, 2:31:35 AM·8 votes·2,202 views

Let me introduce myself. I am a veteran league of legends player who loves this game, and I've recently come off a 1 year break. I've started this new account to feel fresh and to be honest, this game is as good as ever. Although, there is one I've come to notice in the couple weeks I've been back to play League, and it is a SERIOUS issue; and this is Riot's punishment system. Trolls and griefers and toxic players use this to report innocent players, and get them unnecessary and unneeded punishments for those who are being attacked. Let me give you an example: I'm in a game, good at all, I'm playing top lane Gnar. The who game I've been being harassed by the enemy top laner, adc, and mid laner. I mostly just ignore them but I throw in a wrench into their logic just to throw them off. Eventually, they decide to report me. I thought to myself at the time, "Well that wont do anything, the people who run the tribunal system actually read the logs."

I was SEVERELY mistaken. After receiving by 10 game chat restriction; I wasn't exactly happy. After I had finished my restriction I realized after playing another that I wasn't able to receive loot. Of course at the time I persevered it as just a glitch in the programming, and that they'll fix it soon. Boy was I wrong, I soon learned that this new system just handed out punishments without actually evaluating the situation. As soon as I came to this revelation, I quickly began to changed the way I communicated. Of course before I was positive, calling out summoner spells and whatnot to help the team and win, but it make no difference. THEY still found a way to get me punished.

So my story comes to just recently. I had got into a fight very similar to my first one a week back that rewarded my 10 game chat restriction, and the same thing happened. They spammed "REPORT ______ FOR TOXIC PLEASE HARASSING US IN TEAM CHAT". Of course I tried to explain what was going on but of course they other team thought I was lying and decided to believe the cancer that was these trolls. So now I have a 25 game chat restriction, and while I fully intent to play it out and continue on playing league, because I truly do love this game, I really do think Riot needs to bring the tribunal court back.

Anyways, that's my rant-thing, what are you opinions? And could I get a Riot employee's formal response on behalf of Riot Games on the subject? Because to be frank, I'm done with this.

Sincerely;

An Angry Veteran. Gnar

47 Comments

Deep Terror Nami8/30/2016, 2:39:16 AM10 votes

Retaliation is not an acceptable form of defense against toxic behavior, because all it does throw fuel on the fire and you become no different than them. If someone is harassing you or you just don't want to hear them, please simply mute them, and report if you feel necessary. Their reports will have no effect on you if you have done nothing wrong to validate them, and they'll lose report weight if they report falsely.

If you want to discuss whether your behavior was appropriate and/or considered negative and worth punishment, I recommend posting the chat logs you received in your reform card.

If you need to speak with Riot, I recommend submitting a Support Ticket; it's not impossible to receive a Riot response here, but unlikely, and you're guaranteed a response through a ticket.

Karunamon8/30/2016, 2:59:12 AM5 votes

Here's the thing - reports don't automatically take action against you. All they do is flag the game for review, by a human. If you're getting chat restricted, it's because someone at Riot read your logs and decided you weren't following the SC.

Number of reports doesn't matter. One report flags a game, regardless of whether 1 person reported you or 9.

but I throw in a wrench into their logic just to throw them off.

Hmm..

I had got into a fight very similar to my first one a week back that rewarded my 10 game chat restriction

Sounds like the system working as intended to me.

You're hardly the first person to come here and eloquently state that they got restricted for no reason. You will not be the last. Thing is, those complaints are almost always BS. I'd love to see the chatlog. Which, by the way, you should have gotten a copy of in your suspension email. So you absolutely could post them here (after redacting the names) and back up your claims...

I wonder if you'll be the first person in the history of "I got unfairly banned" posts on this board to come through?

In any case, I suggest you start immediately dealing with toxic players by muting them (hold tab, click the speaker icon), and reporting after the game rather than engaging them. If you're just coming off a 10 day game, the next step is.. significantly more permanent.

Reket DeAlk8/30/2016, 2:58:44 AM5 votes

You can get all the reports in the world and not get punished at all. It only depends on if you did anything wrong or not.

I've been playing for about 4 or 5 years (right around when Leona was released) and haven't gotten a single punishment. And I actively use chat. It's not that hard to not get punished.

BoeBu8/30/2016, 3:07:12 AM2 votes

I had a similar situation.To make it short,i got 2 chat restrictions in a row and i deserve it.But what about them? What about other players? Did they got punished too?

Riot Games needs to wake up.They are talking "we got this,don't worry"... No they don't.

Riot Games basically ignores their community and they do whatever they want.

When i started playing this game,it was really fun.League of Legends was the only game that i played then.It still is,unfortunately...then i made a break about half a year...and when i started playing the game again,i just knew... something was different.

Basically,game is not as fun as it used to be...... Riot is the architect of their own destruction. They can either wake up and actually start listening to their community or they can keep doing whatever they want and lose their players.

P.S : I am trying to quit LoL because it is not fun, 99 % you will get flamed at every game and i don't want to be forced to play roles that i don't want to play. The best way to quit League of Legends is to find another game that is addictive. I have been playing GTA 5 and Clash of Clans for a while.I really like those games. You can actually have fun there.Try them out.Anything is better than League of Legends.

HexaDecimel8/30/2016, 2:33:34 PM2 votes

I have been playing for closed to 3 years and have never received so much as a warning. I generally talk a lot but I always keep a careful balance of respect and criticism. I know that I have been reported many times but I never have to worry about getting a ban because as long as I follow the TOS I don't need to worry about getting a punishment. Thats how the system works 99% of the time.

KrumblyKordyn8/30/2016, 2:47:06 AM2 votes

I feel you, I got a 10 game restriction for getting mad at someone that ran down mid (my lane) and fed an akali 9 free kills simply because he was bored at that moment. But that person didnt get a ban or anything. The system that riot uses is complete and utter trash. Now that I have a chat restriction for tell that person who fed that they are an asshole for ruining the game and feeding I can not get loot prizes at the end of games for atleast 2-3 months.

And you show them proof that you did nothing wrong other then get upset over a feeder, Which they should understand people will get upset over. It literally ruins the game for everyone on the team with the feeder, but they will not lift any bans or restrictions even if you can prove that you did nothing wrong other than getting upset over a feeder.

They implemented something for someone who afks at the start or dc pre 3 minutes, but nothing for someone who places for the first 3 minutes and then afks and nothing for someone who is intent feeding. They need to add something for these problems before they start losing more and more players, cause eventually that is whats going to happen. people are going to get tired of getting in trouble when you are the person that is getting trolled in game and the people doing the trolling are getting away with it with no actions taken against them.

nerak238/30/2016, 6:10:38 PM1 votes

RedTao

I again by apologizing, if feels like most my immediate family is sick and in the hospital, as last we spoke. I haven't yet gone back and looked at our pm on friends list as I erased it by accident.

Listen Friend I'm still having some health problems here, but I told you once I'd listen to your side and I Will !

Do a favor and try to get your point across a different way. I'll be on for awhile, Mom's having a hard time breathing...but seems you are having a bad time to so I'm here now. If you don't wish to talk, GL :) and I will be around on and off Red !

Dominick Destine8/30/2016, 11:23:20 PM1 votes

The system is ultra draconian, yes that's true.

nerak239/1/2016, 10:19:36 PM1 votes

You keep doing your thing. Tell your family to hang in there. My best wishes go to you.

Thanks Red I appreciate the thoughts! I just wish I had more time to be on the actual game. We may not agree on some things but still best of luck !

Krigjer8/30/2016, 2:45:32 AM1 votes

I'm not sure how people receive punishments so frequently. I consider myself a nice person with a quick tongue- I certainly retaliate if someone's being dumb or rude, yet I've only ever been punished ONCE in almost five years of playing. And it was only a five game chat restriction.

That said, I miss the Tribunal. Chat bans/restrictions are automatically given out now (last I heard) but anything more serious (like a 14 day suspension or permanent ban) are reviewed by actual people.

FalthyFranch8/30/2016, 3:27:12 AM1 votes

No wonder this game is dying, it's filled with brainwashed idiots. That'll be all, Riot is clearly useless, good job brainwashing these kids.

Karunamon8/30/2016, 3:31:57 AM1 votes

If Riot's changes make the game unpalatable to those who can't keep a civil tongue in their heads, I'm all for them. Go play DOTA, and you can rage with the other ragers all you like :)

RedTao8/30/2016, 4:04:15 AM1 votes

The Tribunal never left. It's just Riot's "Behavioral Specialists" that make the decisions, not the players. The most that players interact with the Tribunal now is that they report "What they dont like" and Riot enforces what is reported. If it's something that "The community doesn't want to see" (Which Riot interprets from amount of reports sent) then it's enforced under the authority "It's what the players want". Regardless if you follow the summoners code or any of the agreements you agreed to follow: If enough players report you for something, then it's punishable.

Itankyou8/30/2016, 6:27:17 AM1 votes

I've started this new account to feel fresh and to be honest, this game is as good as ever

Knew it was a troll post right there, this game is garbage get over it.