TRASH TALKING, EARLY GAME FEEDERS

Niåll·Aug 10, 2016·8 votes·1,093 views

why every time i join a ranked there are people feeding early game, making it hell for me to get a kill and then trash talking me saying "you noob cant even play, you suck" and they wanna report me?

15 Comments

AnastaeciaAug 10, 20163 votes

Cause they were abused children is all I can figure. I had this happen yesterday. I'm supp. We had a pretty even first 10m or so bot, so ADC backs. I wait keeping the enemy bot lane off our tower. ADC gets back, so I (low on mana and needing to get us some vision) back. ADC decides to solo push too far. JG comes out of the river and they 3v1 my ADC. Immediately he asks why I backed, which he clearly saw me doing since I was right next to him when I started the channel. I asked him why would I not. I let you go, now it's my turn.

So not more than a couple mins later, we get 3v2 (their JG again). I exhaust one, stun another and my other abilities are on cd, so I RUN for the tower. ADC screws around and gets killed. Again, says that I suck and he's reporting me. Go ahead, report me for playing the game. You're the one with 2 deaths. SO, he decides to leave me by myself bot, complaining the entire time about supp in general. I told him he should stop playing ADC then since he is always going to be with a supp.

ANYWAY, in the end he had the most deaths (shocker...it's always the ones complaining that die the most..ALWAYS!).

NiållAug 10, 20161 votes

ikr

Morality CoachAug 10, 20161 votes

You need to back when he does, not make him wait 45 seconds. Jungle should collapse on the tower wave.

You should be alert pinging the jungle 30-40 seconds before all of this to come also.

He was bad for pushing that minion wave for no reason 1v3, but you were also bad for not backing with him.

Think about it, you aren't going to be able to stop them from shooting the tower and you can easily die staying in lane with no health and mana. Why stay?

AnastaeciaAug 10, 20162 votes

The ADC backed because he had been poked down pretty low (playing too aggressive). I was mostly full on health and about half mana. The enemy bot duo was right on our door step. Why would I back and give them free reign of our tower when I can hold them off? BTW, in a normal situation, how do you know you are going to back in 30s to alert the jg?

Morality CoachAug 10, 20161 votes

Why do you want to be in lane with half mana when he gets there? Burst the minions down hard before you back and have the jungler come in early.

Not being coordinated with the adc is very tilting, stop doing it.

AnastaeciaAug 11, 20162 votes

What exactly am I bursting them with? I'm supp and haven't had my first back yet? ADC was dumb and got poked down. The enemy bot was coming into our tower with a wave. Again, why would I leave the tower undefended when I can hold it? You still haven't answered the question. All you keep saying is stick to the ADC, stick to the ADC.

Billybaroo2314Aug 11, 20161 votes

Your expecting people to work as a team. I understand exactly as sup main what the point is. You don't want to "give them" the tower because an adc is getting poked to much due to over agro, and I can tell you, if not in a group and you ping for help from jungle about 40/60 you will get it. Bronze Silver play about 20/80 you will get help vs "not my responsibility to babysit your lane so you can back" from jg. I know your saying good play tactics (and smart play) but it's not exactly able to be done all the time.

Morality CoachAug 11, 20161 votes

I told you what you need to do. If you want to be perma Silver V by all means keep tilting your ADC with bad defiant plays.

Get the jungler to come by spamming !!!! pings on him and don't say a word.

Billybaroo2314Aug 11, 20162 votes

My point was simple, you are expecting the jungle to actually work with his team in your example. In bronze/silver the jungles rarely do this for their team. "It's not my job to babysit your lane, I have to farm jg" is usually the response you get if you ask them to watch it so you all can back. You are are also expecting the ADC to have common sense on not being over agro and poked down to have to back at level 2 and again at level 4 because he came back to lane and got smashed again. Sups can only control their play and can only do so much to protect an ADC but if he dives into a trade with a full minion wave and against a Lucian/Thresh and gets poked to nothing, me backing again with him would get me behind also in level as well as xp and then it will be an easy dive and gg bot lane.

I understand your point but saying "perma Silver V" and "tilting your ADC" because you didn't back with him to not give away your lane at 8 min into the game and asked him to "Play passive and farm under tower till I get back" is not to much also.

Your response is becoming less of helping and more of an arrogant ADC that thinks they are the only thing that matters and they never do anything wrong. Just care in your tone if you want to be helpful "Perma Silver V because I told you what to do" is never helpful and makes me think...meh..troll.

Morality CoachAug 11, 20161 votes

That's why you spam !!! on the Jungler 5 times and don't talk to him. The social pressure of being lit up by pings will guide him to free xp. If he bitches mute him and spam him again.

9 times out of 10 the jungler won't be dumb and defiant, a wave of or 2 xp is more lucrative than the jungle.

It's hard to get used to leaving that tower, but you need to start doing it. That 1 minute gap where your adc is helpless cause you stayed in lane half dead is SO tilting.

I was a supp main, I get your attitude but the ADC is under 3-4 times more pressure than you. You need to work with him like a good girlfriend, not tilt him.

If you see him pushing the lane all the way out 1v2 hit him with a warning ping also, then spam it if he doesn't wait for you if you absolutely must take a staggered B break.

Kei143Aug 10, 20162 votes

cos they want to blame others for themselves being bad.

But you might want to look at yourself. sometimes they have a valid point.

Gary B EnkelisAug 11, 20161 votes

I would upvote this to infinity if I could.

Billybaroo2314Aug 11, 20161 votes

Feeding at kill at level 2 to a mid lane or top lane champ and then a second at level 5 to be 0/2 mid or top can kill a bot lane champ. It is not that a sup or ADC aren't any good because they farm early, and are not stupid to just EP it up and dive into mano eh mano fights. Had a game other day my mid and jg kept coming bot (at level 3) and ganking even though enemy was at tower thus pushing my lane and eating my cs. I asked them (as ADC) to stop coming so much and pushing lane so I can farm. "This game is not a game for pussies that want to farm" was the response and then they dove tower, gave an ashe a double kill (I'm on Sivir) so I'm down 2/0 and now a level because of it, Then "you suck adc, you should have helped" I did help, oom, they dove a tower, I can't save against tower damage but I suck. This I think is more the point of this chat then the player who is 2/8/8 and has maybe 100 cs at 30 min maybe then I look at my play because it's not looking good, but I tell you, you give a Kat 5/0 at 10min and she keeps ganking bot, bot is screwed, no matter what they do without help.

Kei143Aug 12, 20162 votes

wut.

did you reply to a wrong post?

Always ForsakenAug 10, 20161 votes

there is a mute button for a reason tho. but to be fair bronze if full of trash talk. the way i avoided it when i smurfed was just mute everyone and mute pings because ya know spam pings are annoying . so just a tip friend. mute the toxic people so they don't end up tilting you in the end. and with the feeding part im guessing its just because ur team flames each other instead of farming and getting kills objectives etc